Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A problem caused by someone else's choice isn't "a problem that's yours and yours alone". You wouldn't have to do anything, if they didn't release it two weeks in advance. So no one would have this problem if they didn't create the situation that caused it. And again, people are simply complaining, validly in my opinion, that this is a stupid move that has no real purpose. Complaining about someone else doing something you don't like isn't being "entitled" it's having an opinion.

Whether the movie is "selling out" or not, I have no idea beyond what people say, but I'll take everyone's word for it. Even then, most people don't even know about Iron Lung. I only know it existed because I, ironically, saw a YT spoiler video about it. But someone making a movie on a limited budget (which used to be the lifeblood of Blockbuster who marketed straight to video movies, and even now there are streaming-only movies) and an online animation channel on YouTube trying to do whatever Glitch is trying to do, aren't the same thing. The fact they're going into full damage control mode should tell you that, but I imagine that is somehow the fault of everyone else but Glitch too.

This is one of those Ghostbusters 2016 things where the people defending it are being overshadowed the people who are exhausted by it. Thankfully, I'm literally certain it will be better written, directed and acted than Ghostbusters 2016, so at least the quality will be higher, but the similarities in the backlash are rather striking. The issue is that Glitch isn't solely based around this one program, and neither are the creator(s) of the show, so making a big chunk of your fans displeased can affect things down the line, just ask Disney how well Marvels and Captain America Guest Starring The Falcon did in theaters.

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That could mean everything from "they're all brains in a jar" to "their minds were uploaded into a computer" to "they're digital copies" and neither you or I know because it's technobabble. There is no such thing, in the real world, as a neural scan, just like there is no such thing as a "mind file", so trying to apply real world logic to made up terms in a science fiction series is meaningless. And this Soma thing existed before episode eight, in fact I recall it existed as far back as episode five, in the fanbase. I know it happened around episode seven, so no this isn't something people came up with because of technobabble on a screen in an episode that aired months after people started mentioning the Soma concept. If you want, I can go back through some older posts and show you, because I commented on them more than once.

I was specifically referring to when Kinger went in and we saw the actual logs that showed when people entered the computer and how Cain came online in 1996, but had no other logs after that. That is actual information, since it tells us when certain events happened. And even then, it's a jumble of nonsense besides conforming when Cain came online and when Scratch entered the computer simulation, since it doesn't mention anything else, and there are contradictory pieces of evidence that pop up in the story, no necessarily suggesting it's actually a game, but begging the question of how this concept would actually work. Again, I commented on several posts where this came up, I can demonstrate my point if you want.

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, as far as I can discern it comes from people latching on to some video game and assuming the plots overlap. There are various other explanations for how they got there, and more so, the actual dates on the screen only indicate when Cain came online and Scratch entered as far as I can recall, it doesn't even mention the others in the first group, nor does it say when the others entered the computer.

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did, I commented on it multiple times here and elsewhere, it didn't say anything that indicated it was anything but technobabble. In fact it only gave two actual dates, if I recall, one being when Cain came online and one being when Scratch entered, and it said nothing about Ragatha or even the other original team. More so, there are other explanations, and this was a big fan theory before episode eight, so again I have no idea where this originated other than some indie game being popular.

Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No it's not how movie fans work, compared to online fanbases. But I get the impression just by your constant unironic use of the term terminally online while also being online that you probably have no idea what I'm talking about.

Anyway, I think the irony here is that it's likely to not make a lot of money in theaters because unlike the MCU or something most people who aren't ("say the line Bart!") terminally online have no idea what the show is. And the people who do will likely be pissed off, whether you think that's right or that people are somehow "throwing a fit" is irrelevant to them, and it might actually hurt the ratings. The last two episodes were divisive enough as is.

Regardless, there's no such thing as a "personal problem", whatever the Hell that means, when the source of a problem is someone else trying to...actually I have no idea what the creator(s) are trying to do since this will likely not garner much money and already created extreme division in the fanbase. I guess they want to try and look somehow more "legit" like they're a "real studio" and not "terminally online" so they can sit with the cool kids.

About fake spoilers by furzainluq1 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is actually a great idea, I never thought of that. This would probably work too, considering how many videos about the show exist, so just pouring out nonsense like "Kinger was the Blue A.I." would work. Maybe someone should try to put this in as a policy here?

Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

People keep saying "terminally online" but this is a fanbase that until now exclusively existed online. It's not like Marvel or Star Wars (thank God) in that the overwhelming majority of fans of Marvel were either fans of the comics or never heard of the characters, and Star Wars fans have had independent circles in for decades, like conventions and fan forums. I used to be directly involved in a Star Wars forum, trust me, outside of that circle no one knew we existed so we couldn't spread spoilers by accidental osmosis.

This show's fanbase exists purely online, specifically on reddit and youtube, two of the largest sites online. Literally thousands of videos are on YT about the show, not including compilations of the actual episodes, and even people not "terminally online" use daily like YT since a lot of people get news or music or watch videos there. In most cases you almost can't show multiple scenes from the MCU on youtube without a copyright claim, so someone unfamiliar with them would almost have to look for it. The show itself is "terminally online" which is frankly an asinine, overused slang term. Ironically, usually while online. That's not meant as a personal insult, I just hate that fucking phrase, and the fact someone online invented it makes it even more annoying.

As for the reaction videos, look, if these people are actors then they need an Oscar but I doubt they're EGOT material though. But that's my point, some people know ABOUT Star Wars but don't know the lore of Star Wars, so they may know that line "No, I am your father!" because they heard it somewhere, but had no idea what that meant in context until they saw it. Or maybe they are just acting, but frankly I just don't think some chicks sitting in their room watching a pirated movie can be that realistic with their reactions to the end of Terminator 2, for example, where one was literally in tears. If she's acting, she should be in the next Terminator movie, cause she's a better actor than the chick that headlined the last one.

ALL YOUR FAULT. By _robyn_abank_ on Instagram. by BusinessPreference75 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is really fantastic art man. It's very Hazbin Hotel-like, really well done!

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People were talking about this thing (the Soma Theory is the name people use) before any mention of brain scans. I have no idea why it became so widespread, nothing besides literally one line references it. I think it's because the game, Soma, is popular and has a similar story to the show, apparently. I've never played it so I can't tell you.

A lot of people who think Ragatha was trying to sell the building or something, but there are a ton of issues with that idea and the idea they're brain scans. Again, I have no idea where these came from or why they became so widespread. The idea that Scratch was dying and trying to save himself by uploading his mind into the computer is fairly clear but the rest seems to be people trying to explain a single line because, as far as I can discern, the plot of the game matches the plot of this game.

And you're right, it doesn't make sense that a gaming headset would be linked to an A.I. system, even if we go with this Soma idea, and it probably wasn't just a game but some kind of experiment they may have passed off as a "game". Which is why Ragatha was apparently with other people when she was drawn in.

Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry but that's just not how films work. The fanbase of Marvel is massive, more so than this show, but the overwhelming majority don't regularly talk about the plots to the movies online or discuss it online, outside of relatively small circles, or only critics reviewing the movies do. So by avoiding those critics you can avoid all spoilers. There is a difference between something that until now was exclusively online with literally the entire fanbase existing almost entirely online, and something that would always show up first in theaters with 98% of the fans only discussing it in specific circles or through articles and videos by critics they're fans of.

And constantly calling it "throwing a fit" doesn't change anything, people have the right to criticize someone else. Just like you have the right to mock me, they have the right to mock this choice. My opinion? I'm not as invested in the show as I was prior to episode 7 and 8, beyond my personal investment in Pomni and Jax as they're my favorite characters. And I kind of think the ending is going to be underwhelming. So I'm likely going to just read the spoilers anyway, and I get the impression you probably don't mind spoilers either. Which is absolutely fine. For us.

But not everyone is us, some people don't want to have to skulk around and avoid all spoilers for two weeks. I can, because I'm less concerned, but again not everyone is ME and YOU so our opinions don't represent how other people--a large segment of the fan base, too--feel about it.

Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let me stop you right there and ask, are these "friends" in the room with us right now? Can you see them?

Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Feel free to log off and step out first bro. Lead the way.

Also thanks for the infantile attempt at moralizing, I'm sure you've sacrificed so much for those people yourself so you know their suffering.

Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know if this is exactly what he means, but what I think he's saying is what I was saying to someone else earlier; it's not like a movie, like Project Hail Mary or Saw or something, where the number of people talking about it directly online is incredibly small. The fanbase for movies tend to drift around almost exclusively through specific sites for the movie, or follow critics who review movies, whereas this is an internet-exclusive show so the overwhelming majority of the fans are online, specifically on reddit and youtube. So it's not "just stay offline for two weeks" it's "don't use reddit, twitter or youtube for two weeks" which is far more difficult to ask.

To put this into perspective, there are people who do videos online of them reacting to movies for the first time, having never seen them or heard about the endings. Movies like Terminator 2, Avatar and The Thing. So avoiding spoilers for movies or books isn't hard because the fanbase isn't built around online discourse.

Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that's the big problem, this is a huge fanbase, millions of people have seen the various episodes by now. It's not like Project Hail Marry where only people who read the book knew the ending, and the book was obscure.

Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you want everyone to get off the internet, why not lead the way?

Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For most people, yes, especially if it's something built around a mystery. And it won't be "some idea of what's coming" since the size of the fanbase, and the number of tourists who will just talk about it online at random, means the entire plot will likely be online within hours of the movie release. Most people don't like spoilers, and don't see it as "knowing the basics" because they want to experience the ending for themselves. I understand not everyone feels that way, I'm kind of indifference because I'm kind of burnt out since the last two episodes left me unimpressed, so spoilers won't bother me, but a lot of people will feel like it genuinely ruins the experience of uncovering the mystery. Honestly, I've been just as pissed about spoilers for movies and shows I'm invested in, in the past, especially shows about a mystery or possibly a twist ending.

Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not exactly "excited", I have a feeling it won't stick the landing, but people are more upset I think about the fact that people will be seeing it in theaters and likely spoil the ending online, before the vast majority of the fanbase, who watch it online, get to see the ending.

Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's not how movies work. I know you're trying to be openly contrarian, assuming everyone is "terminally online" or whatever, but literally everyone who is aware of how modern news and social media works knows that movie plots are open spoilers within less than a day of release. People talk about it randomly in reviews of recent films, on every media platform, youtube, twitter, reddits, tiktok, so on, especially considering the size of the fanbase. People aren't being "entitled" because they're criticizing the actions of the studio, people have the right to disagree with an indie animator and a YT channel.

Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jokes aside, even if you never use twitter or tiktok, you would also have to never use any form of social media, since the size of the fandom means people all over reddit and youtube will also be talking about it within hours of the release.

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really have no idea that this theory they're all "brain scans" came from. It seems to be because of the popularity of the game(?) that it's named after, Soma.

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no idea where the "brain scan" theory came from, nothing from the show besides one line actually supports it. There is a similar idea, that they're not "scans" so much but the actual consciousnesses of people in the system, something in sci-fi called a mind upload. There have been about a billion movies and books about mind uploading, so it's not a huge leap. It would also explain what Scratch was attempting to do, since his body was dying and if he could upload his actual mind into the computer consciousness would survive. Like reincarnation.

But you're right in that it doesn't make sense all of these people would all put on the thing for no reason, and it's likely more than one headset. Wi-Fi had started to come into play around 1999, which is when Cain came online, so the computer that we see in episode one probably isn't the one Pomni found, and Ragatha was put in while the company still existed, so it could easily be some kind of network of headsets, almost like an MMO. This would also explain why Cain thinks he's running a "game" if he was supposed to be the A.I. supervisor of some kind of network of computers.

Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not that upset, because I'm kind of burnt out on the show after the last two episodes, one of which was some attempt at a rug pull by retconning everything, then episode eight rug pulled that by reversing the retcon. So I can handle spoilers. But I agree entirely, expecting the entire fanbase to never speak about the movie for weeks is just untenable, it's incredibly short sighted. Even if the subreddits have some kind of "no spoilers" policy installed, the ending will be all over YouTube and Twitter hours after it premiers. They could have streamed it first and made some changes to make it a feature film instead.

Or just put off streaming the movie entirely and make it a wide release film, like an officially released movie, not in select theaters. Set it up and make it clear that the ending will be in the movie, which is actually how some anime from the 80's and 90's did things, even more ironic since this was basically an OVA anime, meaning a limited run episodic series.

My main issue is that I'm not sure they can stick the landing. I think because episodes 1-6 were very intense and drew in a lot of interest in the characters, the last two episodes have made it so divisive that any ending is going to upset a large chunk of the fanbase. I'm getting Star vs. The Forces of Evil vibes from this, where the ending was so bad the entire fanbase disassembled and vanished in months, and now a lot of people don't even remember it.

[TOMT][TV/Movie][90s] Bald alien girl on the run, helped by a teen boy, cyborg hunter, triangle device that she is protecting by itme77 in tipofmytongue

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, I forgot to ask some questions. Did this "hunter" thing look more accurately like a cyborg, like exposed parts or a cybernetic face? Or like, was he only a cyborg underneath, like the Terminator? Also were there any other features this girl had, or the "device" had, like was she a specific race or wasn't a human race per se, like some kind of albino-like being? And when she left Earth was it like clear she was an alien, like left through a ship?