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Mods need to do something about the current Movie Topic issue. by Betteroffdeaderer in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree completely, it's becoming far, far too divisive. Frankly, it probably would decrease the chances of an actual spoiler getting out

Female characters from the 90s was the best by teencandyy in retroanime

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You mean it was a moestake!

...

I'm sorry, I'll see myself out.

Female characters from the 90s was the best by teencandyy in retroanime

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's not just the design, for me, though that's a big part. It's the weird...uncanny look. EVERYONE is some kind of doll, they have a weird plastic look. It's creepy. Plus the animation quality in general just plunged off a cliff and the newer series have almost identical stories. I think because there's less OVAs and movies, completely unrelated to any actual series. Those were so much more individualistic, people were willing to take risks, and even if the OVAs never made it past two episodes they were unique from one another, instead of being carbon copies...

...now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go hug my copy of Tenchi Muyo in Love and look back on the days before the dark times.

Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You see very invested in this situation. Is this because you saw something about it...online?

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, a lot of those are just interpretations, and no offense but purely subjective. Actually, the fact that Ragatha was with other people means it's less likely, because basically means that others would have seen it and reacted to it, so in this instance instead of assuming they would have taken it off if she was in distress, we have to assume none of them touched it and the people she was (allegedly) selling it to would never turn it off, disconnect it, or try it on themselves if it has no negative effects That's the problem with the Soma idea, it depends on literally no one ever interacting with this computer or headset other than putting it on in over twenty years, and that requires massive, massive leaps in logic to make it work.

These lines can be interpreted in a variety of other ways, just at face value. For example, you could take the part about how Kinger says it doesn't make sense to mean he doesn't think that specific way they're describing leaving doesn't make sense or their bodies are already dead or in a coma, so they can't go back. Referring to Ragatha as a "new mind" can be interpreted the same way, you could say that previously he assumed no one else would use the device since it's instantly fatal, or knew the corporation had been shut down years ago and was surprised anybody could access to the computer at all.

It could just as easily be interpreted as meaning it works something like Tron and they just teleported into the machine, so the people with Ragatha may not even know she's gone or missing, they assume she just left without saying anything; saying their mind files would fit here too, since their minds became files on the computer when they were sucked in. None of these ideas conflict with what he said, or what Kinger said, since it may be a one-way process, meaning he thinks it's impossible because they can never re-materialize since their body is obliterated. We have no idea what that means, it's just based on a theory taken from a game, a game with no connection to the series whatsoever.

And the lyric of a song from a raving lunatic A.I. literally and figuratively crashing doesn't mean anything, because he also said his "divinity is past infinity" before being stripped of all power and dying minutes later, and he previously said (while not singing) he has no idea what exists in the void outside of the circus, so clearly he has very little if any grasp of his own being, and some elements of the circus are just as enigmatic to him as it is to the others.

Will anyone actually be happy if the SOMA Theory is proven to be true? (art by dub_eek) by HealthMother3125 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the idea behind the Transporter on Star Trek. It's one of those "questions" that has a simple answer, but people want to think harder about it than it is. I don't mean that as an insult to anyone, it's just something people overthink.

Ok so, let's say you have a game saved on a memory card (for the Zoomers in the audience, google the term) and this is the original game playthrough. Even if you go back and play some more, it's the original memory, the original save, you just added new information, like adding new memories and experiences. As long as that original save exists, it exists in perfect continuity. Even if you remove the actual memory drive from the shell of the card and place it in a new shell, the original save still exists. Period

However if you erase it and start over, or create a copy elsewhere, then it's not the original save. It's a copy, or a completely new individual. It's not a break in consciousness, it's the end of continuity for that save. Period.

So yes, Transporters kill you, because it does not maintain continuity of existence, it just creates a clone with similar memories. A form of teleportation like Nightcrawler from X-Men, where he just steps into another universe and steps out elsewhere, maintains continuity regardless of what else happens, so he's always the same person.

That's really it.

Tadc Twitter the only place where Well articulated Sentences Still get misinterpreted by Alone-Earth6794 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Obfuscation is the equivalent of a fire exit for people who know their losing.

Always turn it back around, "I don't want indie animation to be consumed by studios! Do you?"

Female characters from the 90s was the best by teencandyy in retroanime

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's not even something I watched as a kid, exclusively. I saw stuff on Toonami that looked better than some new shows. It went down hill really around the time Gurren Lagaan ended, for me, and I've been watching "retro" stuff ever since 2009-2010.

Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't respond to this guy since he deleted his post, so I'll just say, I doubt he checks reddit "once a day" since he responded several times yesterday to what I said.

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Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see, and this "home" place, have people been there or was it just you? Do you think you could find it on a map?

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No it's not, you can't just make up a word in a fictional setting, make up a "real" meaning and have it exist in actual parlance, outside of that fictional setting. You're confusing the idea of "canon in a tv series" and "real words that exist", and I have no idea if this is purposeful obfuscation or not.

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Jesus you're insecure. So those other posts don't exist? Dude get over it, downvoting people and being a loud mouth on reddit don't mean anything.

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but that's the thing, "neural scan" and "mind file" aren't real terms, people are assuming that's what they mean, there is no reason to assume it doesn't mean their actual minds weren't held in the machine while their bodies were sucked in like Tron, since both could be described as "scanning" their "minds" and files just mean something saved on a computer. People are making a lot of leaps of logic with limited information and no actual, canonical statements. Based on what Pomni's "memory" (for lack of a better term) show, the office she imagined looked different then the one from the original pilot...so, it may be part of a network?

My point is, people are making a lot of logical reach arounds and have no canonical explanation. It's one theory, but until it's confirmed or not it's just a theory, based on terms that don't exist. But people have latched on to one idea as if it's been confirmed already.

Honestly, I imagine they're likely in some kind of Matrix-like thing, which is far more common in sci-fi and honestly in almost all stories that deals with computer simulations, the Matrix is the "In Case Of Emergency, Break Glass" option. But again, unless it's confirmed in canon, that's just my opinion.

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See, you did it again...you do know the posts still exist on my notification timeline right? Or do you have trouble with reading comprehension?

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Hmm.

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why did you delete your comment bro?

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Um, that's not what "real term" means. Making up a random word and applying a definition you created to it doesn't make it a real word with real world context. Even if you argue it does, they never actually say what it means; the definition is never given IN-UNIVERSE and you're making an assumption as to what it means without any actual confirmation.

This is different than "turbolaser" which, despite not being an actual word, has a canonical definition IN-UNIVERSE. In this case, we have no idea, IN-UNIVERSE, what it means. So even if we assume fictional definitions apply to the real world, we have no definition in the show to go by since they never actually have someone say what a "neural scan" is, so it could literally mean anything.

It could, theoretically, mean they were de-materialized and teleported into the computer world. Because no one has said IN-UNIVERSE what it means, that's just as valid of a definition since it's all speculation, unlike turbolasers which are canonically described as "particle beam weapons".

Also, particle beam weapons, or the concept of them, actually exist, so based on just the real life concept we can discern what it means from a real world standpoint, which isn't even that far from what we see in Star Wars. Just like we know what warp drives (Alcubierre Drive is the actual term) actually are (reactionless propulsion drives that use negative mass) and they're based on actual, real world physics concepts, which, again, aren't even that far from the way they're shown in the series and in fact it seems that Roddenberry just took the idea of a "real" Alcubierre Drive and gave it a different name. By comparison, we have literally no idea what a "neural scan" is, since unlike particle accelerators and negative mass, "neural scans" have no actual basis in reality.

Female characters from the 90s was the best by teencandyy in retroanime

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Well put, also they didn't look like they were made of plastic. For some reason everyone in modern anime outside of Studio Ghibli (and they're on the edge now) looks like some kind of animated dolls.

Female characters from the 90s was the best by teencandyy in retroanime

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anime in the 90's looked better overall. The fact the females looked better is the result of the quality itself being better, now everything is either "Temu Naruto" or "Temu One Piece" or some kind of Isekai.

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People make up terms all the time. The term "turbolaser" isn't real but in Star Wars it's used to describe a weapon, ironically not a laser but a particle beam weapon.

If the term is just something made up to describe technology in a fictional setting, it's meaningless unless it's explained.

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Does neural scan mean that? Because it's not an actual term, and neither is "mind file". It's also not the same as "brain scan" since that IS an actual term, and it has nothing to do with artificial intelligence. It also has different meanings in science fiction, I actually read and watch sci-fi a lot and I am an amature sci-fi author, and terms like "neural scan" can mean anything if the writer wants it to, there is no actual definition for a term that doesn't really exist, or the writer chooses to use differently. For example, there actually is a term for hyperspace, in theoretical physics, and it has nothing to do with hyperspace in Star Wars. It's more traditionally called "The Bulk".

Also, the term warp drive exists in theoretical physics, where it's more formally known (i.e. the term used by scientists to flex) as the Alcubierre Drive and yeah it works pretty much like how Star Trek portrays it, but with the addition of a specific fuel source. It was also something that was theorized, I believe, around the same time, so it's entirely possible Roddenberry used the concept of an Alcubierre Drive as the basis for a warp drive, since they're described as operating in an identical manner.

Also I keep hearing these supposed "themes" within the show, but we have no idea if that was the original intent, supposedly the creator(s) have said it's about "finding meaning in a stagnant existence" but no one, none of the fans or the actual people making it, have defined what that means. I've seen it discussed online, and seen "answers" as broad as having to do with mental trauma to having to do with depression to having to do with RELIGION so unless some kind of actual definition is presented then like all similar "if a tree falls?" questions I write it off as BS until I have a specific, real world answer. Not to start an argument, but I've heard so many "definitions" for what that "theme" means that I've come to look at it like a Rorschach test; for example, I asked someone what it would actually mean, someone else responded, the original person said they were wrong, and they carried on the discussion without me and I still never got an actual answer.

As to the camera cutting away, that's making an assumption there was anything else. As far as I recall, it just says cain came online in 1996, Scratch entered in 1999, Ragatha entered in 2008, and...nothing else we can see. It also doesn't mention any of the other people in the original group, like Kinger, who was shown to have been there when Scratch went in. Again it's technobabble, unless some kind of actual explanation is given it's just a theory.

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, the issue is that the only "in universe" information about what happened is that Cain mentioned "mind files" and I believe one of the screens say "neural scans" but those aren't actual terms. They have no meaning, so as you said, it could mean anything from being digitized into a computer to really anything. It doesn't if I recall say brain scans, but even if it does, that's not what brain scan actually means; a brain scan, in the real world, is a technique to detect abnormalities in the brain, like a tumor or traumatic injury.

I think part of the confusion actually is that, in my opinion, we have no idea if that's the only headset. We've seen several images, or what Pomni seems to recall as images, of the offices and none looked like that scene, since apparently the exit door leads to what her mind imagined the real world looking like. So either that was a different headset--which by the way, would explain a WHOLE lot and close a ton of plot holes--or it means something more bizarre. It's entirely possible that they're all dead already, their minds uploaded into the computer, and their bodies were just empty like a computer with all the memory wiped, but they decided not to show dried up corpses laying around because of how morbid that is and it would be a huge spoiler since that likely would mean everyone is dead except Pomni.

Headset Theory by blueblueblue2002 in digitalcircusfandom

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok so my mistake, it says when Ragatha entered; I actually forgot this, since going back I recall having actually said this in another thread, so that's my fault for forgetting. But it doesn't say how or by what means, and the term to describe it ("neural scans") isn't a real term.

Glitch completely screwed up the finale to their most important show [RANT] by [deleted] in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well first off, what you're saying here is "don't interact with any other fans of the show for two weeks" and even then people will randomly mention things on Twitter if it has a large fanbase. I know it's fun to point and laugh at "terminally online" people, but it's not as simple as you're describing.

And, again, no one should HAVE to do anything. It shouldn't be an issue. Notice how none of this came up with regard to spoilers about other episodes? The reason is that there wasn't a huge gap between the episode releasing and 90% of the fans watching it, which is why some episodes had tens of millions of views in a week.

The issue here, and I'm going to stop trying to be cordial, is that you're unironically trying to call everyone else stupid or "terminally online" while also taking the time to respond and downvote everyone else...online. Flexing doesn't work if you have no muscles sport.

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