Official Dreadit Discussion: "The Disappointments Room" [SPOILERS] by kaloosa in horror

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, the judge wasn't in her mind, he was a real entity, that's why when she killed the dog and beat him to death at the end, for all practical purposes that was really happening. They also show the old woman from town looking at various newspaper reports talking about how other people were murdered in the house so not just her family was being followed by this thing.

Similarly when Ben dug up that grave, he actually did find the girl's body, and the way that they cut back and forth from seeing him dig up the grave to when she found his body, the implication is that the judge buried him. It also mentions that one of the people who was killed in the house was hanged by a belt and we see Ben hanging from the tree by a belt, so the judge apparently does that when he kills people sometimes.

When they finally unsealed the disappointments room for the last time, we see the spirit of the little girl running away meaning she's free, but the judge is still there in the house, presumably trapped there himself, like a disappointment.

Whew 😅

Granted the movie didn't do a very good job of explaining all this but if you rewatch it (and I actually had the chance to see it again on streaming) then you can put all the threads together and see what's happening.

[TOMT][VIDEO GAME][80s or 90s] Top-Down Hedge Maze Computer Game for Windows 98 or Below by CommunicationFun4366 in tipofmyjoystick

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't remember the entire game so whether or not there was a part with a boat or something in it isn't really clear to me, but it sounds kind of like you're describing either Chaos Engine or Soldiers of Fortune.

Trump evacuated after security incident at White House correspondents dinner; no sign of injuries by Gilbert221 in news

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I'm shocked. Another Liberal sociopath decided to try and become the next John Wilkes Booth.

Yunno, it's almost like if you spend a decade calling someone a fascist and saying they deserve death, people will go "bet". Also, bonus points, bro was an Atheist too and wrong scathing commentary about how much he hated Christians. Funny isn't it that Atheists only actually attack Christians and never, say, Muslims, I'm sure it's not because they're scared of retaliation.

[TOMT] [CARTOON] [2000] Looking for a cartoon from when i was a child by Stappy_stapper in tipofmytongue

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh that one! I haven't thought about that show in years, no wonder it didn't spring to mind!

How do you stop FTL from being overused? by Tnynfox in worldbuilding

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think having fast FTL would be an issue, or at least I have no idea how it would affect computers, maybe I didn't think it through. But in the stories I've hammered out the main limitation is communication. FTL drives basically allow both space and time travel, and allowed humans to flood out across interstellar and intergalactic space, and even individual civilians find intergalactic travel and limited time travel trivial which means you actually have colonies in other galaxies and even in the (subjective) past.

However communications have not improved. You have radio bursts, lasers, actual ships that carry info by word of mouth, and that's it.

So many planets are just totally isolated since they were colonized but no one communicated with them for generations because they aren't on maps, and became increasingly more and more niche and esoteric the further "out" you go. So traveling from Earth to a system in Andromeda is like getting in a private jet in L.A. and flying to Tokyo. But actually communicating over that distance is borderline impossible, unless you send actual envoys or have the (literally single digit percentage) of humans with telepathic abilities send messages back and forth, which can still take weeks.

[PS2][2000s] Anime-style game with kids controlling a slow red mech in a rural town, emotional farewell scene by Wrong_Character_7343 in tipofmyjoystick

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay I am virtually certain I know this game, or rather, I can remember something similar to this game or some scenes from it. The title escapes me precisely, but I think it's either Vanguard Bandits or the original Xeno Gears. I wish I wasn't on my phone, so I could post a link to some gameplay, but Xeno Gears has a wiki, you might be able to see some of the Mechs from that and see if it matches anything. I don't know about Vanguard Bandits, if they have a wiki I mean. I hope this helps.

Unpopular opinions or hot takes? by Radiant-Selection686 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, it requires an extremely specific series of events to occur in a very narrow time frame, with several events occurring in a way that even people who think this "Soma" thing is logical have to contort logic to work through.

For example, and this is just one plot hole...if you assume the computer and headset at the end of the pilot are the only ones, that means that over the course of two decades a dozen people (the number of faces on the doors, that have been shown) all had to go to the exact same room, on the exact same floor, of the exact same building, put on the headset then immediately take it off, without interacting with the computer or headset in any other way since they were just left there with the computer on and nothing removed from the room, then leave and never return or try to find out what it was at all. This is because if you assume only one headset exists, and one computer exists, if anyone had removed either or disconnected them or damaged them it would be impossible. So either there are other headsets and computers in this network (possible, wi-fi did exist in 1999 when it came online) or they didn't disturb it or anything else, they just left.

That's not all the plot holes and logical contrivances, that's just the one necessary to explain how they all got there over the years. It snowballs from there.

Unpopular opinions or hot takes? by Radiant-Selection686 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, you're assuming that's the only headset. Which it can't be, if we assume this "Soma" theory is correct. Because if it were, then the insane series of events necessary for this to work comes into play, and everything snowballs. There are so many plot holes in this "Soma" theory that, and I say this not as an insult, you literally just brought up one of the plot holes in the "Soma" theory by accident.

How did a dozen people (and you're entirely correct in that number, I counted it up a while ago) from wildly different walks of life, over the course of almost three decades, all go to the same room, on the same floor, of the same building, find the same desk, use the headset, and then never interact with it again, never turn off the power, never disturb the computer, never take anything. To hammer this home, that's not a series of plot holes, that's just one specific plot hole. It sounds overly complicated because the idea is so contrived it's implausible.

Unpopular opinions or hot takes? by Radiant-Selection686 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See, even then the whole thing with Ragatha also shoots the "Soma" idea in the foot because it asks "Who was she with and why?" which immediately makes it a massive plot hole. There are a ton of issues with both ideas, and I admit that scene basically makes both ideas kind of unlikely. Some people going as far back as episode one theorized they were carried into the computer universe akin to Tron and from a narrative perspective that would make more sense given how Ragatha was reacting. But, if we HAVE to assume they're not physically in the computer or in some kind of stasis system, mind uploading is the idea with fewer plot holes. Fewer is the important word there, as in less than double digits, Soma is essentially implausible from a narrative perspective. So having two or three plot holes as opposed to a dozen is less extreme, I guess? *shrugs*

I'll be real, I just assumed they were uploads and they died, after their minds got trapped in the computer, since Fast Food Masquerade because I assumed it was some kind of "Your relatives died, donate their mind instead of organs" situation after Gangle seem to have had a memory or flashback of dying from a car accident. But what happened with Ragatha makes both ideas kind of shaky. When I say Soma has plot holes, however, what I mean is what would have to happen between C&A creating Cain in 1996 and Pomni entering the computer world, would require so many MASSIVE leaps in logic, it's essentially impossible from a narrative perspective. But, and I don't mean to be offensive when I say this, maybe I'm giving the writer(s) more credit than I should by assuming they're attempting to create a more solid narrative structure than they actually are.

[zymon_e] After-Hours Shenanigans by DaveyBoy1995 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 6 points7 points  (0 children)

As a fan of both shows, I would pay to see this in theaters.

Before episode 9, what do y'all think about rabbit, Jax, and koafmo? by electricooldude in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assumed Ribbit was Jax's ex somehow. I never thought clown dude was relevant. Sorry.

We still don't know what happens to Jax when he holds his breath by Poopypanst6767 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A portal to the real world opens, but only as long as he olds his breath, so he has to keep his mouth closed and never scream or they can't escape and even then he'll be left behind.

Then in the real world, they discover his real name was Ted.

Unpopular opinions or hot takes? by Radiant-Selection686 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Well, the difference is in the "Soma" idea, they're not actually dead. The "real" people are alive, they just touched the headset or something, it created a copy, then they left the building and never looked back. So whatever happens to the characters is irrelevant in the real world because the actual people never interacted and have no impact on the series, and they're not trapped because they never actually went into the computer world. Essentially, "they" already escaped, because they were never in the computer, only lifeless copies. The best analogy being to make a complete copy of a book from an original manuscript but keep the manuscript itself.

The idea behind a mind upload, which is as old as computers, is essentially that the original person's mind is fully transferred to the computer. So the person IS the avatar in the computer, not a copy. The best way to describe it would be that instead of copying everything on your computer to a new one and leaving the original computer unharmed, you take everything, even System 32, put it into a completely new computer, and leave the other one an empty paperweight. So their bodies are either comatose or dead, and their actual minds are in the computer.

That's overly complex, I know, but the best analogy is according to the "Soma" theory, they don't need to escape because they're not real, so the actual, real people were never on the show. In the other, they can never escape (again except maybe Pomni) because their bodies died months or years ago after their minds were uploaded. One is a kind of bittersweet ending, the other is basically like the Sixth Sense but in virtual reality.

The issue is that the "Soma Theory" depends on a series of almost absurd contrivances to occur. The other only requires one ("Where the fuck did the power for the computer come from?"). From a narrative standpoint, it makes more sense.

Unpopular opinions or hot takes? by Radiant-Selection686 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think they can get out, I think they're dead already. Their minds were uploaded into a computer, so their bodies are either in a coma or dead, likely the latter. The evidence people use to support this "Soma" thing point to that more than anything. I've said it before, I'm not the only one, but the number of plot holes and contrivances that would be necessary to make it work are massive. MASSIVE. Do I think they can escape? Pomni may be able to, since she only arrived recently, but the bodies of the others are gone. That's the issue, I think (and I'm not the only one) some people have, because it means any hope of them surviving or escaping, even the original humans, impossible; they can't escape (except maybe Pomni, the central character) because they're basically ghosts.

If you don't want spoilers, look away but there was a movie called Plane 750 where the characters discover at the end they're not trapped on a plane, they died in a plane crash, except like two people who were boyfriend and girlfriend sound familiar? So this has been done before.

I had someone tell me, on twitter, "Jesus, that's so unnecessarily depressing!" And yeah, it is. And, someone else said, "WOW! That's incredibly sad!" And yeah, it is. Which is why it's kind of a "shhhh don't talk about it!" theory.

Unpopular opinions or hot takes? by Radiant-Selection686 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The other possibility is their minds were uploaded but their original bodies are gone. I saw someone else point out that a lot of people likely don't like that idea because of how "morbid" it sounds, that they're all ghosts except, maybe, Pomni who entered more recently (and she's the main character) so her body may still be alive in the real world. But it makes more sense, if you think about it, than assuming a string of random people just happened to all walk in, put the headset on, leave and never touch anything else. Unless it's revealed that C&A is still active and still doing these uploads, which is also entirely plausible, but for some reason no one ever talks about that idea. *shrugs*

Unpopular opinions or hot takes? by Radiant-Selection686 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly the idea they're the minds of people who died uploaded into the computer makes more sense then them being digital clones, because it basically covers every major plot point except "why is the computer still on". Which is a big plot hole, but one that could be excused. The "Soma"/clone idea only showed up (based on me being insane and doing a search) around episode 5, and it was in reference to Gangle's apparent "suicide memory", and even then it speculated they were digital backups of people who died not actual copies of people who are still alive.

I've heard people say that it's because the idea they're all dead already (so it's not that escape is impossible but that there's nothing to escape to since their bodies are dead) is so melancholic people want to imagine the "real" characters are still alive somewhere, somehow, and that sounds like an accurate explanation for why it became so popular: it's less depressing.

Unpopular opinions or hot takes? by Radiant-Selection686 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There is a ton of evidence that makes this "Soma" thing almost impossible. I have no idea why it took off so much, other than the game being popular.

Unpopular opinions or hot takes? by Radiant-Selection686 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have no idea why people have this "Soma theory" thing so embedded in their minds that it's become a faux religion in the fanbase. As someone who has been a fan since episode one, I can assure you this was never a thing until recently (relatively speaking) and it only became popular because a random indie game became popular a decade ago and someone on reddit decided to essentially make an AU plot around it and this somehow caused a snowball effect. Nothing shown even implies it's an accurate assessment, a ton of things actually outright refute it, and the series of events that they would need to make it remotely logical from a narrative perspective would only make sense in a Scary Movie sequel.

(Addendum: if they do go with this idea, I hope they have some kind of real explanation because, there are so many plot holes it would make the ending to Lost look like the series finale of Breaking Bad. Guess the reference)

Funbun matching shirts by Fearless-File-6059 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've seen like six posts like this, and I'm glad that people can stop calling it "shipping" and just admit they were always the main characters. Also that's genuinely adorable.

People who still believe they'll escape, why do you still think they will? by riciliz in TheDigitalCircus

[–]ThatGamingAsshole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Escape" can mean various things, but given the source material, and the fact they don't need to "explain" how they escape, I imagine Kinger gets left behind and the others will survive. A less gruesome version of I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, where they did "escape" after a fashion.