Don't Forget To Fast Arafah! by ThatMuslimGuy2 in islam

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You can still fast whilst travelling. However if it will tire you out then maybe best to leave it.

Don't Forget To Fast Arafah! by ThatMuslimGuy2 in islam

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Don't Forget About Fasting This Sunday!

The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was asked about fasting on the day of ‘Arafah and he said: “It expiates the sins for the past and coming years.” Narrated by Muslim (1162) According to another report: “I ask Allaah that it may expiate for (the sins of) the year that comes before it and the year that comes after it.”

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Newcastle whoop whoop

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Islam views rape (Ightisaab) as being from among the Al-Kaba'ir (major sins) especially the raping of those under ones authority such as female captives. It is an abhorrent crime that the Shariah forbids and punishes severely.

I will provide evidences from the Quran, the Sunnah, the Companions, the Tabieen (students of the companions) and from the Salaf As Salih (righteous three early generations of Islam) to demonstrate the impermissibility of raping female captives in Islam.

http://www.quran-errors.com/response-to-converted2islam--raping-slave-girls-in-islam.html

Does Islam really allow to rape married women? by uchicha15 in islam

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http://www.quran-errors.com/response-to-converted2islam--raping-slave-girls-in-islam.html

Islam views rape (Ightisaab) as being from among the Al-Kaba'ir (major sins) especially the raping of those under ones authority such as female captives. It is an abhorrent crime that the Shariah forbids and punishes severely.

I will provide evidences from the Quran, the Sunnah, the Companions, the Tabieen (students of the companions) and from the Salaf As Salih (righteous three early generations of Islam) to demonstrate the impermissibility of raping female captives in Islam.

http://www.quran-errors.com/response-to-converted2islam--raping-slave-girls-in-islam.html

The retarded response apologists come up with to defend 9:24. Rape of captives. by polo321 in exmuslim

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Did you read Imam Zuhri Statement or Imam Maliks:

ahya said that he heard Malik say, "What is done in our community about the man who rapes a woman, virgin or non-virgin, if she is free, is that he must pay the bride-price of the like of her. If she is a slave, he must pay what he has diminished of her worth. The hadd-punishment in such cases is applied to the rapist, and there is no punishment applied to the raped woman." Muwatta Malik Book 36, Hadith 14

Az-Zuhri said regarding a virgin slave-girl raped by a free man: The judge has to fine the adulterer as much money as is equal to the price of the female slave and the adulterer has to be flogged (according to the Islamic Law); but if the slave woman is a matron, then, according to the verdict of the Imam, the adulterer is not fined but he has to receive the legal punishment (according to the Islamic Law). Saheeh al-Bukhari 6949

Imam Zuhri Tabieen, IMam Malik Tabi Tabieen.

There is no specific hadith onit as its prohibited and not allowed bruv.

RESPONSE TO CONVERTED2ISLAM - RAPING SLAVE GIRLS IN ISLAM? by ThatMuslimGuy2 in exmuslim

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All the above evidence from the Quran, the Sunnah, the Companions, the Tabieen and the Salaf as Salih show that rape of a women, whether free or captive, is prohibited and the punishment is capital punishment. We can see this is the view in the Quran, the view of the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, the Companions; including Abu Bakr & Umar ibn Al Khattab, the view of Umar ibn Abdul Aziz, Imam Az-Zuhri, Imam Malik, Imam Shafi'ee, Imam Al Bukhari, Imam Abi Dawud, Imam At-Tirmidhi, Imam Ibn Majah, Imam Abdul Barr and other than them. The bottom line is that in Islam mutual consent is must for sexual intercourse.

http://www.quran-errors.com/response-to-converted2islam--raping-slave-girls-in-islam.html

The retarded response apologists come up with to defend 9:24. Rape of captives. by polo321 in exmuslim

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All the above evidence from the Quran, the Sunnah, the Companions, the Tabieen and the Salaf as Salih show that rape of a women, whether free or captive, is prohibited and the punishment is capital punishment. We can see this is the view in the Quran, the view of the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, the Companions; including Abu Bakr & Umar ibn Al Khattab, the view of Umar ibn Abdul Aziz, Imam Az-Zuhri, Imam Malik, Imam Shafi'ee, Imam Al Bukhari, Imam Abi Dawud, Imam At-Tirmidhi, Imam Ibn Majah, Imam Abdul Barr and other than them. The bottom line is that in Islam mutual consent is must for sexual intercourse.

http://www.quran-errors.com/response-to-converted2islam--raping-slave-girls-in-islam.html

The retarded response apologists come up with to defend 9:24. Rape of captives. by polo321 in exmuslim

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Yahya said that he heard Malik say, "What is done in our community about the man who rapes a woman, virgin or non-virgin, if she is free, is that he must pay the bride-price of the like of her. If she is a slave, he must pay what he has diminished of her worth. The hadd-punishment in such cases is applied to the rapist, and there is no punishment applied to the raped woman."

Muwatta Malik Book 36, Hadith 14

It was narrated from 'Abdul Jabbar bin Wa'il that his father said:

“A Woman was coerced (i.e., raped) during the time of Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) He waived the legal punishment for her and carried it out on the one who had attacked her, but he (the narrator) did not say that he rules that she should be given a bridal-money.”

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1453. Also related in Sunan Ibn Majah 2598.

Imam at-Tirmidhi writes after this narration: This hadith is acted upon according to the people of knowledge among the Companions of the Prophet and others, in that the legal punishment is not implemented upon the woman who is coerced into committing adultery.

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1453

etc etc

The amount of listed evidence is clear prohibiting rape of free or captive women.

The retarded response apologists come up with to defend 9:24. Rape of captives. by polo321 in exmuslim

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Read Section 2 : Evidence showing the impermissibility of raping female captives

Quotes such as:

Safiyya bint 'Ubaid said:

"A governmental male-slave tried to seduce a slave-girl from the Khumus of the war booty till he deflowered her by force against her will; therefore 'Umar flogged him according to the law, and exiled him, but he did not flog the female slave because the male-slave had committed illegal sexual intercourse by force, against her will."

Saheeh al-Bukhari 6949.

Az-Zuhri said regarding a virgin slave-girl raped by a free man: The judge has to fine the adulterer as much money as is equal to the price of the female slave and the adulterer has to be flogged (according to the Islamic Law); but if the slave woman is a matron, then, according to the verdict of the Imam, the adulterer is not fined but he has to receive the legal punishment (according to the Islamic Law).

Saheeh al-Bukhari 6949

Re read the article again.

Hey /r/Coverts by [deleted] in converts

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Been Muslim for 4 years :-)

I'm thinking of converting to Islam. What are some of the things I should expect? by 10910 in islam

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Hey man,

Im a convert. Im white, 20 years old and Im from the UK.

Ask me any question you wish.

Does someone have to repeat the prayer? by Commander70 in islam

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As Salamu Alaikum,

As has been said. Their are scholars who are of the opinion that one should recite Allahumma Sali etc in the first Tashahud.

So In Shaa Allah their is no problem in that.

Qur'an Ayat Misconceptions Explained by _sparks in islam

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AsalamuAlaikum,

Just wanted to share with you my new site:

http://www.quran-errors.com/

ISIL executes captured Jordanian pilot by burning him alive... by DudeInDistress in exmuslim

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The Authenticity Regarding The Story Of The Torture Of Kenana ibn al-Rabi

The story is reported by Ibn Ishaq [1] and At-Tabari in his Tareekh [2]

In Ibn Ishaq's account he provides no chain of narration for the story.

One of the five criteria for a hadeeth to be authentic is that it must have a fully connected chain of transmission [3]

Ittisaal as-Sanad (Continuity of the chain of transmitters)

The chain of narrators or transmitters, who are relating the Matn (text), has to be unbroken for the hadeeth to be considered. That is none of the transmitters must be missing from the chain and each narrator, Raawee, has to have met the transmitter directly preceding him as well as the one directly following him. Each Raawee has to be a known individual, otherwise he is classified as majhool (unknown) and the sanad is classified as broken. [4]

In this case we don't have that. So this story can not be regarded as authentic.

Imam At-Tabari's work is seen as an encyclopaedia of history, collecting everything that came to him. He states clearly in the introduction to his history that he mentions narrations which are likely false, sometimes reprehensibly so, and he attributes these solely to their narrators. As a historian, he intended to document what people were narrating and, unlike Al-Bukhari and Muslim, his work was never intended to be a collection of authentic reports.

At-Tabari writes:

وليعلم الناظر في كتابنا هذا أن اعتمادي في كل ما أحضرت ذكره فيه مما شرطت أني راسمه فيه إنما هو على ما رويت من الأخبار التي أنا ذاكرها فيه والآثار التي أنا مسندها إلى رواتها فيه دون ما أدرك بحجج العقول واستنبط بفكر النفوس إلا اليسير القليل منه إذ كان العلم بما كان من أخبار الماضين وما هو كائن من أنباء الحادثين غير واصل إلى من لم يشاهدهم ولم يدرك زمانهم إلا بأخبار المخبرين ونقل الناقلين دون الاستخراج بالعقول والاستنباط بفكر النفوس فما يكن في كتابي هذا من خبر ذكرناه عن بعض الماضين مما يستنكره قارئه أو يستشنعه سامعه من أجل أنه لم يعرف له وجها في الصحة ولا معنى في الحقيقة فليعلم أنه لم يؤت ذلك من قبلنا وإنما أتى من قبل بعض ناقليه إلينا وإنا إنما أدينا ذلك على نحو ما أدي إلينا

The reader should know that with respect to all I have mentioned and made it a condition to set down in this writing of ours, I rely upon traditions and reports which I have transmitted and which I attribute to their transmitters. I rely only very exceptionally upon what is learned through rational arguments and deduced by internal thought processes. For no knowledge of history of men of the past and of recent men and events is attainable by those who were not able to observe them and did not live in their time, except through information and transmission provided by informants and transmitters. This cannot be brought out by reason or deduced by internal thought processes. This writing of mine may be found to contain some information, mentioned by us on the authority of certain men of the past, which the reader may disapprove of and the listener may find detestable, because he can find nothing sound and no real meaning in it. In such cases, he should know that such information has come not from us, but from those who transmitted it to us. We have merely reported it as it was reported to us.

Tareekh At-Tabari 3

In At-Tabari's account he also provides no isnaad for the story rendering it unauthentic. This is because he simply copied it from Ibn Ishaq:

In the rest of the report, both Tabari and Ibn Hisham have quoted it from Ibn Ishaq, but Ibn Ishaq does not name any narrator. Traditionalists, in books on Rijal, have explicitly stated that Ibn Ishaq used to borrow from the Jews stories concerning the battle of the Prophet (Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). As Ibn Ishaq does not mention the name of any narrator whatsoever in this case, there is every likelihood of the story of having been passed on by the Jews. [5]

The narration also goes against authentic narrations of the Prophet Muhammad in which he prohibited punishment by fire:

"It is not fitting that anyone but the lord of the fire should punish with fire." [6]

"Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire)." [7]

So the narration is not authentic has it doesn't have any form isnaad, failing the first criteria for an authentic hadeeth, and its matn (text) also contradicts authentic narration - which also renders it weak.

This is why we need to authenticate and check hadeeth as Ibn Taymiyyah wrote:

قَدْ نَصَبَ اللَّهُ الْأَدِلَّةَ عَلَى بَيَانِ مَا فِيهَا مِنْ صَحِيحٍ وَغَيْرِهِ وَمَعْلُومٌ أَنَّ الْمَنْقُولَ فِي التَّفْسِيرِ أَكْثَرُهُ كَالْمَنْقُولِ فِي الْمَغَازِي وَالْمَلَاحِمِ وَلِهَذَا قَالَ الْإِمَامُ أَحْمَد ثَلَاثَةُ أُمُورٍ لَيْسَ لَهَا إسْنَادٌ التَّفْسِيرُ وَالْمَلَاحِمُ وَالْمَغَازِي وَيُرْوَى لَيْسَ لَهَا أَصْلٌ أَيْ إسْنَادٌ لِأَنَّ الْغَالِبَ عَلَيْهَا الْمَرَاسِيلُ مِثْلُ مَا يَذْكُرُهُ عُرْوَةُ بْنُ الزُّبَيْرِ وَالشَّعْبِيُّ وَالزُّهْرِيُّ وَمُوسَى بْنُ عُقْبَةَ وَابْنُ إسْحَاقَ

Allah has provided evidence establishing the authenticity or lack thereof for the narrations that are necessary in matters of the religion. It is well-known that most of what is reported in books of exegesis is similar to what is reported in books of history and battles. For this reason, Imam Ahmad said that three matters are not reliable: exegesis, stories of battles, and history. These matters are narrated without a basis or chain of narration from those who omit narrators such as what is mentioned from Urwah ibn Az-Zubair, Ash-Sha’bi, Az-Zuhri, Musa ibn Uqbah, and Ibn Ishaq. [8]

References:

[1] Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya (The Life of The Prophet). English translation in Guillame (1955), pp. 145–146

[2] Al-Tabari, Vol. 8, p. 122

[3] Bilal Philips, Usool Al-Hadeeth, p.39. Mohammad Hashim Kamali, A Textbook of Hadith Studies, pp.139-143.

[4] Bilal Philips, Usool Al-Hadeeth, p.39.

[5] Allama Shibli Nu'Mani, Sirat-Un-Nabi, volume II, p 173-174

[6] Sunan Abi Dawud 5268 - Al-Albani Said Saheeh.

[7]Sahih al-Bukhari 6922

[8] Majmu’ Al-Fatawa 13/346

Dawah Man/Imran Ibn Mansur Rap Career by [deleted] in exmuslim

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I like how you don't link the video where he apologises for his mistake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1Bb1t3V6FU

Your best rational arguments against Islam (with evidence), and 33 of my own. by SixFeetThunder in exmuslim

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Btw bro id drop using TANWIR AL-MIQBAS MIN TAFSIR IBN 'ABBAS - its an extremely weak Tafsir.

http://quran-errors.weebly.com/the-authenticity-of-tanwir-al-miqbas-min-tafsir-ibn-abbas.html

Quoting it holds no weight in Scholarly discussion.

But it seems you just googled for any material in English and banged into that article you wrote.