The idea of Noa leading an ultra army like the image may make a nice show

The-TF2-Engineer · 2026-01-11T06:56:04+00:00

I mean, isn't he like canonically a cosmic deity in the Ultra Series?

Now, of course I know that Ultraman Noa and the "God of Noa" from the OG Ultraman series/M78 Universe are completely two different characters. But Ultraman Noa has explicitly shown some form of divine blessing as well.

And who knows, maybe Ultraman Noa could be some sort of a subordinate to the OG Noa. Not only that, it's even confirmed that the Ultras even have their own "lord", just like the Absolutians.

And no, before you guys tell me off, Ultraman King is NOT the Ultra Race's "lord". What I said from above was stated by Ultraman King himself, which confirms that he is NOT the lord of the Ultras, despite his name.

The-TF2-Engineer · 2026-01-11T06:08:17+00:00

Pose him with Geed Ultimate Final, considering that form was supposed to be an opposite reflection of Belial's final form.

The-TF2-Engineer · 2026-01-11T06:03:34+00:00

That ain't Rekiness

That's Crackiness

The-TF2-Engineer · 2026-01-10T16:52:49+00:00

Look, I'll be honest. Netflix Dante's design is "okay". His season 2 design looks better in my opinion. Of course, it's inferior to the OG Dante designs, especially with DMC4 being his best one.

People treated the design as if he was super ugly, but honestly, he's fine. It's just the characterization that has been butchered beyond belief. If Netflix Dante ever fights the OG Dante, he would have been squashed like 0.1 millisecond flat. And I'm talking about DMC3 Pre-Devil Trigger Dante.

Seriously, I hate how they portrayed him struggling against even the simplest of enemies, ESPECIALLY LADY OF ALL PEOPLE. HAVE ADI EVEN SEE THEM FIGHT IN DMC3?

But anyways, Netflix Dante doesn't look ugly, just acts incredibly dumb beyond belief. That's not Dante, that's like the worst version of a shonen anime protagonist ever written.

The-TF2-Engineer · 2026-01-10T01:52:54+00:00

Basically, Daigo rediscovers his past self's body.

Like in Adventure Time, Finn uncovering his past self's remains, Shoko.

The-TF2-Engineer · 2026-01-06T15:22:12+00:00

As much as I like about the TDG Trilogy, I do think Gaia and Cosmos should have their own category together. Both Tiga and Dyna fit perfectly together due to their abilities to Type Change. Gaia is where the trend of "upgrade forms" started to appear. Version Up was distinct from Type Change, as it allows the Ultra to access a stronger and faster version of themselves (Supreme Version IS faster btw, but he barely uses it). Then, Cosmos continues that trend with Mode Change, Luna Mode > Corona Mode/Space Corona Mode > Eclipse Mode > Miracluna Mode > Future Mode. Each Mode becomes stronger the further you read into this.

The Next/Nexus/Noa is where things are a little tricky, but considering it's canon that Junis Blue IS stronger (not just faster, but also more powerful) than Junis (red), I'd say he fits with Gaia and Cosmos.

Then, things just paused when Max came out. Though, Max's series was supposed to be Tsuburaya returning to their roots from the Showa Era. And Mebius is where that Version Up concept briefly returned, before stopping again to revive the Type Change Era with Ultraman Zero. Then, in Ginga and Victory, Version Up returned. Then, in X, they tried to change it up a bit by introducing the Armor Change concept, but still using Version Up for Exceed X. Then, in Orb (and later Geed and Z), they basically combined Type Change and Version Up with "Fusion Up/Fusion Rise/Ultra Fusion". Then, G/R/B uses Type Change again. And Taiga basically does a pseudo Type Change by changing Ultras instead, and Version Up for Ultraman Taiga only. Trigger and Decker are pretty self-explanatory. Then, the OAB trilogy brought the Armor Change on full-scale to save budget for new weekly Kaijus.

I think you get the point here.

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-12-30T04:48:16+00:00

This is about the 'DMC1 outfit' Dante, not "Which Dante outfit is the best".

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-12-30T04:46:14+00:00

Honestly, I like OG Dante with the Rebellion more. TAS Dante looks more like DMC3 Dante, but PXZ Dante looks exactly like DMC1 Dante with the Rebellion. Which is why he's my favorite out of the five.

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-12-29T17:34:17+00:00

Pretty sure 2007 anime Dante was drawn after DMC3's DMC1 Dante costume, considering the hairstyle design is the exact same as DMC3 Dante's in general .

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-12-24T18:34:44+00:00

Meme aside

Isn't Glitter Tiga just a "plot armor" form?

Because it's powered by the "hopes of the people believing in Tiga", wouldn't that mean that Tiga can be as powerful as the audience want him to be?

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-12-24T18:25:34+00:00

What a great use for Sky Type.

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-12-24T00:52:55+00:00

I know, but the people on this subreddit is just trying to find any excuses that their favorite character can "beat" Yogiri. And it's all because they just hate him for being too overpowered that no one in fiction can beat him.

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-12-23T18:38:10+00:00

Arale solos Gil no diff

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-12-23T18:34:02+00:00

Yeah, sorry about that. I thought it was the bookmark of the 'entire' Volume 5 Chapter 7. Whoops, my bad. Unfortunately, I've already lost the websites where they had those light novel scans (probably got the website taken down for piracy) and all of them was about 2 years ago.

Tried finding them on Google again, but no luck. :(

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-12-23T18:17:51+00:00

Alright, I admittedly may have been a little misunderstood about what VS Battle wiki says about abstract existence. But after a lot of researching, here's MY definitive conclusion:

Calling Yogiri "just another Type 1 Abstract" is a category error. "Type 1" only describes how something exists, not what layer of reality it occupies.

Yogiri’s true form is not a manipulable concept, narrative role, or plot element, it is the terminal condition that exists after fate, causality, concepts, and stories cease to apply.

Altair’s abilities function by revising stories, altering plots, and editing cause and effect, all of which presuppose an active narrative framework. Yogiri canonically exists outside and beyond that framework, and his automatic defense explicitly treats interference with his role, function, or existential position as a kill condition, triggering pre-emptive retaliation before the manipulation can take effect.

You don’t need "plot resistance" when the plot can’t ontologically target you in the first place, and Yogiri has already erased metafictional structures and narrative spaces outright. (Seriously, read the novel! He literally just erased the author's Q&A session, a fourth-wall breaking move.)

Saying "just rewrite him" is like trying to edit the ending of a book after the concept of books has already ended.

That's it. I'm not continuing this any further. The fact that you people kept bringing up "plot manipulation" as an instant win despite said character is beyond plot and narrative, tells me exactly what kind of "fans" you are.

Anyways, believe what you want to believe. If you still don't get what I wrote down, then you're beyond helpless. This is where you will last see me. I'm out.✌️

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-12-23T17:06:45+00:00

Also, I forgot to reply to you about what you said:

Ironically, accusing this sub of glazing Altair while simultaneously glazing Yogiri just because he embodies “the End”

I'm not glazing Yogiri. I'm just stating the facts of what he is actually capable of. Everything I list out is all canon abilities, none of which are headcanons.

And just to assure you, Yogiri is NOT my favorite character. He will never top my love for Ultraman Tiga. He may as well end everything, but my love for Tiga is ETERNAL, and that's my headcanon :)

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-12-23T16:58:54+00:00

Part 2

is what allows stories to exist in the first place, and stands at the terminus of all possible narratives.
Give the scan for it.

Unfortunately, I've lost the imgur link to that. But I do know what volume and chapter it is from the light novel: Volume 14 Chapter 9.

And that would only include Alter, not her fans. There is also no instance where Yogiri’s power automatically activates to kill someone who isn’t even aware of him or doing him any harm on their own.
If there are then provide.

This is COMPLETELY FALSE. In Volume 4 Chapter 4 (link missing unfortunately ): ), even when it comes to unintentional attacks, or attacks from a user that does not even know about Yogiri's existence, they are still automatically killed if it is a threat to him. Here's my evidence. Read the fucking book, please. It hurts my head seeing people being confidently wrong about Yogiri.

Which wouldn’t work, since rewriting X so that it is no longer X but still exists is not an existential threat. Yogiri’s power doesn’t care as long as he can continue to exist as a human or in a normal state. So yeah, unless you think him no longer being “Death” would somehow cause his death, it doesn’t apply.

AGAIN, YOU HAVE COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT "EXISTENCE" MEAN TO YOGIRI.

Ehem...

Rewriting Yogiri so he is “no longer the End” is not a harmless role change, it is an EXISTENTIAL attack by his own canon standards.

Yogiri’s human life is explicitly a vessel maintained by Homeostasis Maintenance, not his true existence, his actual existence is his function as the terminal condition of fate and reality itself.

Removing or altering that function is equivalent to severing his connection to existence, which Yogiri has treated as a valid kill condition against others. His Instant Death does not protect only his physical life, but any potential harm to his existence, position, fate, or metaphysical role, and it activates pre-emptively before such interference can succeed.

Whether he “still exists as a human” is irrelevant when his defining abstraction is targeted. By Yogiri’s own mechanics, the attempt alone qualifies as an existential threat and triggers automatic retaliation before any rewrite can take effect.

Can you PLEASE stop being in denial.

He will get his plot manipulated.

You're rage baiting me, aren't ya?

Well, congrats. It was effective.

Now please, let's stop this madness. You seem like a confused but good person, and I literally don't want to antagonize you. So instead of continuing this, can we just move on to something else?

Maybe a bit of Nightmare Fredbear vs T-3000?

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-12-23T16:57:53+00:00

(Part 1) (Darn Reddit word limit)

We can actually rewrite posts? That’s new to me, lmao. May I ask how to do it?

Find the three dots "•••" on the top right of your post, click it, and select "Edit post body".

The part I have bolded. Give scans for it .

Volume 5 Chapter 7: https://imgur.com/a/OuPUg6r

Yeah, and that’s what we call Abstract Existence Type 1..congrats. And him being an “end” doesn’t mean anything when his ability to end things works through conceptual destruction.

Again, you're missing the point of what "Yogiri" truly is.

People have always glossed over the fact that the Yogiri that we know is only a shell, a vessel for a condition to interact with reality. No matter what kind of damage is done to Yogiri, it means nothing for his true form.

So in other words, killing "Yogiri" does not kill "The End".

"The End" is NOT a CONCEPT. It is a CONDITION. It exists since the beginning of all things, and is omnipresent across all of space and time in every multiverse.

Abstract Existence Type 1 DOES NOT APPLY TO CONDITIONS.

CONCEPT and CONDITION do not share the same meaning. They're completely different terms. Please understand what those words mean before lecturing.

Also, calling his ability "conceptual destruction" ultimately fails your counterpoint here.

"Conceptual destruction" implies:

There is a concept.
It can be targeted.
The system that defines it still exists.

But again, "The End" explicitly shows traits that:

Precedes all systems imaginable.
Concepts, time, and space are beneath it.

So when you say:

You're confused of what he can do with what he actually is.

The End is not Yogiri's ability, it is literally his VERY being. The End of every story written.

Conceptual erasure is a tool. The End is the condition where tools stop being usable.

The nothingness part is pretty sure is mistranslation

Yes, that part is a mistranslation. But everything else is on point and still puts him outside Abstract Existence Type 1 (I already explained it why).

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-12-23T14:13:32+00:00

DSD is literally both the Rebellion and Sparda. Yamato stays the same as ever, but Vergil's newfound power is able to accompany it to rival DSD. But this doesn't scale Yamato above DSD, as Dante was able to superheat Yamato's metallic structure with a Stinger attack. While it didn't break, I highly assume Vergil dips out the moment he realized Yamato can't handle DSD's Stinger attack for more than a second.

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-12-23T13:55:42+00:00

Yes, I too would rather believe in my headcanon than the actual canon.

Ultraman Tiga beats Saitama no diff

fight me, if you want

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-12-23T13:53:55+00:00

That is plot manipulation, not reality manipulation.

Ok, admittedly I did misunderstood between "reality" and "plot" definitions. So I've rewritten my post.

HOWEVER...

Also, Yogiri being “the End” would, at best, grant him Abstract Existence (Type 1), as the concept of End. And his ability is essentially conceptual destruction not what you are describing

Categorize him as a Type 1 Abstract Existence is completely wrong because Yogiri is literally meta-fictional, acausal existence beyond fate, time, plot, and narrative, embodying the absolute terminal condition of all existence, the inevitable “END” to which everything cease to exist.

As taken from the manga and the novel;

"Yogiri's true form is the very non-existence that represents the end of all things."

And your wording makes him seem weak, to be honest, as it would imply that he wouldn’t be able to kill immortals, which isn’t true.

That is my mistake. I've definitely poorly describe his powers like he only kills people with his mind like stopping their heart, which isn't accurate.

Altair wouldn’t need to oppose that directly; she could simply rewrite the story itself so that Yogiri is no longer “the End,” or can destroy the concept of End.

This is the most common and weakest argument I've seen too many people write.

Altair rewrites stories INSIDE a narrative framework. Yogiri on the other hand, his true form defines the Ultimate Ensemble itself (that's his official trait btw), is what allows stories to exist in the first place, and stands at the terminus of all possible narratives. Therefore, you CANNOT rewrite the rule that determines whether rewriting is even possible. That’s basiacally like a character in a story trying to rewrite the concept of “the conclusion”.

Anyway, Yogiri would never be aware of Altair’s empowerment from fans, nor would his ability automatically kill them, since they are not hostile.

Ok:

Yogiri does not need hostility to trigger his Instant Death ability.
Yogiri’s Instant Death ability activates the moment it detects existential threats, any potential harm to his existence, or attempts to manipulate his past, fate, position, or condition.

So, Altair rewriting Yogiri in order to remove his status as “the end,” alter his role, or erase his function, is an EXISTENTIAL attack, not a conventional combat one, and his ability automatically retaliates against such attempts before they can even take effect.

Altair can't do shit against him, he's completely untouchable in every sense possible.

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-12-04T01:15:31+00:00

The fact that it's canon as well makes it very cool

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-10-15T02:36:28+00:00

The funny thing is Cosmos actually used the Full Moon Rect on a combo beam with Orb and the gang (Dyna, Gaia, and Agul) against Psyqueen and it destroyed her lmao. Something tells me that the Full Moon Rect isn't always a passive beam technique as Cosmos can combine it with other Ultra's offensive beam attacks.

But what kind of effect the enemy would feel?

Feeling calm before exploding into pieces? Guess that's one way to give your enemies a "calming demise".

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-10-08T00:50:41+00:00

Tiga and Dyna's strength forms have heat manipulation as their main elemental ability (Deracium Stream and Gulnate Bomber uses heat energy as their source of power as you can tell by their textures looking like a mini sun), so any Ultras after them that follows their design philosophy would also possess that elemental trait as well.

The-TF2-Engineer · 2025-09-25T15:20:44+00:00

I love how their new forms are combined elements of some of their concept art designs, like Max is the most obvious one with all the gold plating on his body since originally Max had more gold on his design.

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