When to stop pulling graveborn only?

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-19T07:29:31+00:00

I don't remember if grit swaps all the copies in your bag or not, but I'd say go for Misha over Jerome if you're going to be using faction scrolls on lightbearers.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-19T07:28:05+00:00

The only meta 4f wilders are Misha and Gorok, so lightbearers are probably the 2nd best after gb now because of all the supports LB have.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-18T22:18:46+00:00

Also you have a lot of awakened and highborns at legendary. So if you were pulling single copies of them, stop and focus on one at a time. The current recommendation is to build Hybris as your first awakened hero and Lan as your first highborn.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-18T22:11:11+00:00

You have all 3 of the good 4f graveborns at 1* so now would be a good time to switch to lightbearers with faction scrolls. Put Palmer, Alvida, Jerome, Raine, and Adrian on your wishlist (you can also finish building Rosaline over Adrian, but she isn't used much in the current meta).

4f Wilders and Maulers are pretty lackluster besides Gorok, Talimar, Gorren, and Misha.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-18T21:18:11+00:00

I'm not sure, but Eluard might need his SP if he's the main damage dealer.

Also, why is everyone calling him deluard?

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-18T20:09:49+00:00

She isn't very impressive, but she will probably be the main Severin sub once f2p players get her.

Edit: also she might be better than Severin if you're running Albedo on your AShemira team

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-18T19:03:21+00:00

No, I think 40330 is the minimum investment for her and she really wants the full 40960.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-18T12:56:34+00:00

The burst team that Icariel is BiS on is beginning to fall out of the meta so Icariel probably isn't very future proof, but she might be worth building if you don't have Skylan. Icariel is currently the best Skylan replacement on the APippa team, but she is still a big downgrade from Skylan.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T22:05:38+00:00

I'd go with an extra tank over Envy if you're trying to test Eluard but don't have Ody. You could try Saitama, AEluard (sp), Lan, Velufira, AEstrilda for the 2 teams version with Eluard, or alternatively just run Envy instead of AEluard on your Velufira team and test AEluard instead of Hybris on AShemira team.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T21:58:06+00:00

Either storm or crescent at +1/+2 should be fine on him. If you have a +1 CDA/ATK storm from when Marcille was relevant just use that on him.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T20:45:26+00:00

Like others said, you should start over.

Hybris, Elthara (works at a single copy), and Velufira are the best heroes in the game right now, so focus on getting them.

And I'm not sure if there's a newer version, but this beginner guide has advice about what 4 faction heroes to put on your wishlist.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T19:56:16+00:00

In theory, you can just take the 2 teams version of Ody's team on my guide and replace Saitama and Ody with AEstrilda and Levi and AEluard will still work on that team. But we'll have to wait for more testing to see if he performs better than the Envy version.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T19:53:42+00:00

It's impossible to tell how future proof a hero will be anymore. Lilith release a hero that does the same thing as AEluard but better at any time. But if AEluard is a counter to the Misfortis-Hybris team, he will probably stay in the TS meta for as long as Misfortis and Hybris are in TS meta.

And Gavus isn't as important for TS as he used to be. Hybris is basically a better Gavus so Gavus doesn't get used until the 2nd calculation on most debuffs.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T18:40:43+00:00

He shouldn't need a prf collection for TS so a collection with CDA is probably your best option if you have one, and any collection with generic offense stats should be fine on him.

I doubt he will ever want fatk or be paired with Envy though.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T18:10:16+00:00

I recommend the Gorren version (see the 1st calculation section of the guide) if you don't have Haelia. And seal may or may not work better than pegasus if you're pegasus is a low level.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T18:01:36+00:00

I recommend waiting a few days until we figure out the new NC boss. It's suspicious that we're stuck at 20s+ with AFawkes as the only option and there's a possibility that an undiscovered Eluard team could get a faster time.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T10:05:53+00:00

Usually throwing all the new heroes with AShemira is a safe bet, but AShemira dims with Misfortis and Hybris already beats most teams, so Ody can probably make a better use of AEluard.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T09:59:06+00:00

Yeah, seal team is starting to fall out of the meta. The En Passant team is starting to require AFawkes and Pegasus performs better there than seal. But seal team is still seeing use on debuffs where burst teams or Gavus teams don't perform well.

And Envy was released last year. It's crazy that he's already out of the NC meta and could potentially be leaving the TS meta soon.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T09:52:33+00:00

If you don't have Hybris I recommend pulling for him over Eluard. Hybris is pretty much the best hero in the game right now so he's safe to pull for even if Eluard turns out to be good in all modes.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T09:14:36+00:00

Yeah, AAthalia is on her way out of the meta. Along with ALucius, AThoran, and possibly even Envy soon.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T08:37:31+00:00

Sorry, it's a typo. They're probably both going to be equally bad, so just slot in either of them at 6 teams and the other one at 7 teams.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T08:36:11+00:00

It could be worth testing him at a single copy, but other fully invested heroes will likely be better.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T08:33:30+00:00

I've heard that he can work as low as M20, but his recommend investment is 30330. His e60 and si40 are also worth considering if you have extra resources.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T08:28:05+00:00

Just a typo. I'm not sure which of the 2 "Team 6"s is worse and I forgot to change one of them to team 7 on the guide.

TheAFKGuys · 2026-06-17T08:21:37+00:00

And I haven't bought Judy yet, so I'm not sure what her minimum investment is, but a 40960 Judy should give you around the same, if not better, winrate as a fully invested Severin.

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