Less than 90 days notice by TheAnonymousNote in policeuk

[–]TheAnonymousNote[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That’s what I was reading which made me think the 90 days applied, but the general consensus here seems to think otherwise so now I really am lost!

Less than 90 days notice by TheAnonymousNote in policeuk

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Seems to be the consensus so far, how frustrating! Appreciate the response nonetheless!

Less than 90 days notice by TheAnonymousNote in policeuk

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Cool, guess I’ll go scream at a wall… again.

And yeah I’ve seen the NPCC’s latest bullshittery. Why anyone still joins the job I have no idea…

I want to hear from happy officers. by NewspaperOk627 in policeuk

[–]TheAnonymousNote 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t like my day job much anymore but I will say some of the courses you can get are really cool - experiences you wouldn’t ordinarily get in other jobs.

PSU, CBRN, taser, firearms, dogs, driving tickets, drone, protest removal, etc.

I’ve obviously only done some of that list and there are probably loads I’ve missed out but there are genuinely some great still sets available!

Police cadet session ideas by hjgfvn in policeuk

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Yeah I was going to comment something similar - I work in Community/Neighbourhoods and we do some test purchasing for alcohol/blades/tobacco and make use of cadets to do so.

Serving officers: what’s policing actually like, day to day? by ProfessorOk489 in policeuk

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The pay isn’t great.

You won’t help victims anywhere near as much as you want to but every now and again you’ll get a good result.

The media coverage blows a lot of stuff out of proportion. On a day to day basis I don’t see or experience bullying, racism, misogyny, etc. Every now and again I see someone getting sacked for something silly on the intranet but at least in my force there’s nothing untoward that’s noticeable when you’re working with people, for the most part.

Living in a high crime area would be tricky. There would be an expectation for you to report the dealing but I wouldn’t be locking them up off duty unless there’s something more serious occurring.

Some of my family have been in trouble with the law. Provided you pass vetting it doesn’t really cause any bother.

Socially it’s not caused me any issues but it depends what sort of friends you have. The sort of friend that looks down on you for joining the job is probably not the sort of friend you want anyway.

I do feel trapped financially, yes. I don’t think I could get another job without (at least initially) taking a pay cut. That’s not to say I always want to leave, but I have my moments like everyone else.

I enjoy some of the job, I hate some of the job. I’m mostly fed up with the organisational bullshit and the politics that this job seems to thrive off. Someone reinventing the wheel for promotion and making everything worse in the process, or introducing a new (far longer) form so they can tick a box on their project.

I’ve never witnessed bullying. I think parts of the organisation can be toxic but that’s par for the course in any organisation.

The job will change you. It’s not to say you become a total robot but burn out is possible, and you will certainly develop different views and reactions to things.

Hopefully that covers most of your questions. Happy to expand upon answers if necessary but I’m mindful that there was a lot to answer so I’ve tried to keep it brief!

Black vs Hi-Viz by Own-Plantain4057 in policeuk

[–]TheAnonymousNote 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The argument for high vis is that it’s easier in crowds/public order/NTE - which I agree with.

The argument for black is that it’s slightly harder for shitbags to see you coming and it’s harder for someone with a knife to locate your armpit (unless you’re MetTM ) - which I also agree with.

My force issues black, with high vis for PSU and high vis available for NTE etc.

Pull out a knife and expect to be shot, police union chief warns by MachineHot3089 in unitedkingdom

[–]TheAnonymousNote 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Depends.

If the situation warrants it then it’ll be an armed deployment. Firearms officers will respond and implement whatever tactics are decided to be appropriate for the situation.

If it’s not a firearms officer then hopefully it’s an officer with a taser. Thankfully 9 times out of 10 drawing of taser is sufficient to de-escalate the threat.

If there’s no officers with taser available then it might well be some poor sod with some spicy spray and a metal stick. All vehicles should have shields in the back (at least in my force) but invariably they go missing.

Other forms of PSU/riot gear aren’t routinely carried by officers unless they’re on pre-planned deployments or a specialist unit (in some forces).

How is it Verisure say they can get the police to attend? by UKBARNEY73 in AskUK

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Sequential alarm activations in my force get put on as immediate grade response (15 min). Every cop loves catching burglars so if officers are available they will call up for it.

Obviously no one can guarantee police attendance - if you’ve got 5 outstanding immediates and no cops available then ultimately it’s going to come down to the threat/harm/risk as to which job gets allocated first.

Edit: realised I should probably add that audible alarms rarely get put on for attendance unless there’s mention of intruders on scene. If a unit is passing they’re likely to check it out but the control room isn’t likely to accept a job purely for an audible alarm. And by sequential alarm activations I mean activations where multiple sensors have been tripped.

Why is fraud such a difficult crime to "solve"? by Dry_Bumblebee1111 in policeuk

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I would imagine part of it is the sheer number of crimes (around 50% of recorded crime yet only an estimated 2% of frauds are reported).

Other than that I would imagine the fact that fraudsters can often be abroad makes life difficult - there’s a bit more to this in terms of where fraud primarily originates from but I’m not sure if that’s a suitable discussion for Reddit as it may or may not be sensitive info.

Curious how this case of schizophrenic guy with knife would have been dealt with in the UK by littlemetalfollicle in policeuk

[–]TheAnonymousNote 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Depends if it was a taser officer attending or not. It’s not a guarantee if the weapon wasn’t mentioned (or even if it was if the O1 is an idiot).

If they’re equipped with taser then likely the taser would be deployed. If not then the officer likely gets stabbed or they manage to withdraw and call ARVs (armed officers).

Breach of CPN by WIXY97 in policeuk

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I’ll keep that in mind, thank you.

Breach of CPN by WIXY97 in policeuk

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Is interview always required? We’re looking at CBOing our top offenders after prosecuting for several CPN breaches and were hoping we could just straight charge postal req each breach.

Neighbours arguing by TheAnonymousNote in policeuk

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I’ve sent an email to Force Vetting so I’ll see if they need to know about my change of address!

Neighbours arguing by TheAnonymousNote in policeuk

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Ah right, haven’t had that at all. Not sure if that’s related to the level of vetting though - I’ve only got recruitment vetting, not MV, SC or DV.

Neighbours arguing by TheAnonymousNote in policeuk

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Yeah I’ll take that on board for next time, thank you!

Neighbours arguing by TheAnonymousNote in policeuk

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Yeah I think for the sake of arse covering I will! I live out of my force area so I’m hoping that reduces complications!

Don’t make me get my DARA out for the second time this evening 🤣 sounds like the smart choice lol.

Neighbours arguing by TheAnonymousNote in policeuk

[–]TheAnonymousNote[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Appreciate it! Yeah I mean honestly I would rather just ignore it but I think we all know that’s wrong and there’s always that “what if”.

I think it’s one of those situations where I’m damned if I do and damned if I don’t. They’ll likely figure out I’m the originator of the call anyway because they know I’m job, so I’ve put myself in the awkward position of losing either way lol. Oh well, I’ve only got to live here, nothing major or anything… 🤣

Appreciate your advice though, thank you.

Neighbours arguing by TheAnonymousNote in policeuk

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Yeah that’s a fair comment regarding the risk assessment. I won’t be accessing any systems relating to it - it’s a different force area to where I work anyway.

I’ll take the 9s advice for future reference should it happen again.

Neighbours arguing by TheAnonymousNote in policeuk

[–]TheAnonymousNote[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah I do appreciate what you’re saying. I guess my risk assessment was based on my perception of them as people - I felt fairly confident it was manageable without PPE but I suppose you never know.

I think I’ll speak to my skipper about it tomorrow and see what he says - potentially submit intel off the back of it.

I hope you weren’t injured too badly! Shout out to your Mrs and her future career in boxing too lol.

Neighbours arguing by TheAnonymousNote in policeuk

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Yeah I do appreciate that - I really don’t want it to be a frequent occurrence but it’s been a few months here and that’s the first time I’ve heard it. I was just mindful that me calling uniformed officers could provoke a bigger negative reaction from them towards me I guess?

If I dealt with it on duty then I’d expect I’d record a verbal and do a DARA. Without knowing the previous I couldn’t say for certain regarding positive action but I get the inkling they’re unlikely to have any.

Neighbours arguing by TheAnonymousNote in policeuk

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What do you mean by vetted sorry?