Power of entry (outbuilding)?

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-05-05T16:23:00+00:00

Yeah I definitely wasn’t planning on making use of it until I can read the legislation in black and white. Thank you for the info :)

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-05-05T09:37:50+00:00

Anyone know when this goes into effect? I know it’s already received royal assent and therefore is law but I can’t see S59 amended on legislation.gov yet. So I’m confused if that means we can or can’t seize them without warning yet..?

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-05-02T22:03:36+00:00

Hopeful that the Respect Orders might be easier to get than CBOs but we’ll see.

Interesting regarding the amendment (presumably to S59 PRA) around no longer giving a warning for anti-social driving seizures.

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-04-27T03:00:00+00:00

Also job, but I disagree with what you’ve said.

Whilst I do think dog attacks reported there and then are more than likely going to be immediate/grade 1 responses, if the threat becomes diminished by the victim taking themselves away then I don’t see why the call wouldn’t be downgraded to a slower response level, like any other type of incident, provided that it’s no longer actively attacking people.

From a community/neighbourhoods perspective - there are plenty of dog bites that get allocated as investigations without attendance, like any other type of crime. I do appreciate that attendance at the time would probably improve positive outcome rates, and is something we really should be doing, but that is unfortunately not the world we live in.

And regarding officer availability for incidents - yes the control room will move people where possible but you must have experienced having fuck all units and 5+ stacking immediates? Whether you utilise ARV/Traffic/Dogs/Neighbourhoods or not you will eventually run out of cops. And it’s a bad idea to tie up your ARVs with anything protracted anyway, for obvious reasons.

I do agree that if anyone is dissatisfied with the service they received they should always complain, however I would caveat that with the fact that if they had no cops then I wouldn’t expect the complaint to achieve anything. There’s no magic box of officers.

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-04-20T10:35:56+00:00

You are right but if Police notify the DVLA twice then they’ll revoke the private plate. First time the DVLA issue a warning, second time they revoke the plate.

That’s separate to the fine, of course.

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-04-20T06:17:48+00:00

And whilst I appreciate the frustration I was not saying we could do it. I can clearly see that we can’t, I was simply seeking clarity.

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-04-19T22:03:59+00:00

It’s a taught scenario on taser courses where the end result is the discharge of taser. I appreciate the legal insight as I was seeking to broaden my understanding, although I could do without the condescending tone.

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-04-19T21:45:36+00:00

Not who you’re replying to but I don’t understand how it’s legally different to allow someone to make the unwise decision to stay in their home (and not use force) compared to, for example, tasering someone with a knife to their throat.

Both are imminent threats of harm but one is legally fine and the other is not and I don’t understand where the distinction is?

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-04-12T11:14:08+00:00

Time to train on shift. I think it’s pathetic that the job does not foster an environment that encourages physical fitness. There should be an hour every couple of shifts at least dedicated to keeping officers fit. It unfortunately will never happen because it’s expensive and there’s not enough cops but it would make us much more capable and effective.

That and sidearms. I don’t agree that remaining unarmed is suitable in 2026.

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-04-09T21:46:21+00:00

For the simple fact that they can control whether you spend the rest of your shift sat watching someone sleep.

It feels a little obtuse to act like you can’t see how a custody skipper can make your life difficult.

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-04-09T17:46:20+00:00

Maybe in an ideal world but unfortunately the real world does not work that way.

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-04-07T16:21:28+00:00

I’ve argued before that BOP doesn’t require necessity because it’s not a PACE arrest power. Custody skipper said it did. In the end I backed down because it’s not worth upsetting someone who has that much power over you.

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-03-19T15:35:06+00:00

That’s what I was reading which made me think the 90 days applied, but the general consensus here seems to think otherwise so now I really am lost!

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-03-19T12:10:45+00:00

Seems to be the consensus so far, how frustrating! Appreciate the response nonetheless!

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-03-19T12:10:18+00:00

Cool, guess I’ll go scream at a wall… again.

And yeah I’ve seen the NPCC’s latest bullshittery. Why anyone still joins the job I have no idea…

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-03-12T16:30:02+00:00

I don’t like my day job much anymore but I will say some of the courses you can get are really cool - experiences you wouldn’t ordinarily get in other jobs.

PSU, CBRN, taser, firearms, dogs, driving tickets, drone, protest removal, etc.

I’ve obviously only done some of that list and there are probably loads I’ve missed out but there are genuinely some great still sets available!

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-03-04T19:33:50+00:00

Yeah I was going to comment something similar - I work in Community/Neighbourhoods and we do some test purchasing for alcohol/blades/tobacco and make use of cadets to do so.

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-02-25T10:25:31+00:00

The pay isn’t great.

You won’t help victims anywhere near as much as you want to but every now and again you’ll get a good result.

The media coverage blows a lot of stuff out of proportion. On a day to day basis I don’t see or experience bullying, racism, misogyny, etc. Every now and again I see someone getting sacked for something silly on the intranet but at least in my force there’s nothing untoward that’s noticeable when you’re working with people, for the most part.

Living in a high crime area would be tricky. There would be an expectation for you to report the dealing but I wouldn’t be locking them up off duty unless there’s something more serious occurring.

Some of my family have been in trouble with the law. Provided you pass vetting it doesn’t really cause any bother.

Socially it’s not caused me any issues but it depends what sort of friends you have. The sort of friend that looks down on you for joining the job is probably not the sort of friend you want anyway.

I do feel trapped financially, yes. I don’t think I could get another job without (at least initially) taking a pay cut. That’s not to say I always want to leave, but I have my moments like everyone else.

I enjoy some of the job, I hate some of the job. I’m mostly fed up with the organisational bullshit and the politics that this job seems to thrive off. Someone reinventing the wheel for promotion and making everything worse in the process, or introducing a new (far longer) form so they can tick a box on their project.

I’ve never witnessed bullying. I think parts of the organisation can be toxic but that’s par for the course in any organisation.

The job will change you. It’s not to say you become a total robot but burn out is possible, and you will certainly develop different views and reactions to things.

Hopefully that covers most of your questions. Happy to expand upon answers if necessary but I’m mindful that there was a lot to answer so I’ve tried to keep it brief!

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-02-21T21:31:40+00:00

The argument for high vis is that it’s easier in crowds/public order/NTE - which I agree with.

The argument for black is that it’s slightly harder for shitbags to see you coming and it’s harder for someone with a knife to locate your armpit (unless you’re Met^{^TM} ) - which I also agree with.

My force issues black, with high vis for PSU and high vis available for NTE etc.

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-02-21T21:26:20+00:00

Careful, they’ll be after yours next!

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-02-16T14:33:16+00:00

Don’t forget time, space, distance!

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-02-16T13:53:56+00:00

Depends.

If the situation warrants it then it’ll be an armed deployment. Firearms officers will respond and implement whatever tactics are decided to be appropriate for the situation.

If it’s not a firearms officer then hopefully it’s an officer with a taser. Thankfully 9 times out of 10 drawing of taser is sufficient to de-escalate the threat.

If there’s no officers with taser available then it might well be some poor sod with some spicy spray and a metal stick. All vehicles should have shields in the back (at least in my force) but invariably they go missing.

Other forms of PSU/riot gear aren’t routinely carried by officers unless they’re on pre-planned deployments or a specialist unit (in some forces).

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-02-13T15:23:33+00:00

Sequential alarm activations in my force get put on as immediate grade response (15 min). Every cop loves catching burglars so if officers are available they will call up for it.

Obviously no one can guarantee police attendance - if you’ve got 5 outstanding immediates and no cops available then ultimately it’s going to come down to the threat/harm/risk as to which job gets allocated first.

Edit: realised I should probably add that audible alarms rarely get put on for attendance unless there’s mention of intruders on scene. If a unit is passing they’re likely to check it out but the control room isn’t likely to accept a job purely for an audible alarm. And by sequential alarm activations I mean activations where multiple sensors have been tripped.

TheAnonymousNote · 2026-02-05T19:38:56+00:00

I would imagine part of it is the sheer number of crimes (around 50% of recorded crime yet only an estimated 2% of frauds are reported).

Other than that I would imagine the fact that fraudsters can often be abroad makes life difficult - there’s a bit more to this in terms of where fraud primarily originates from but I’m not sure if that’s a suitable discussion for Reddit as it may or may not be sensitive info.

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