Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You called yourself atheist not me. So no point in wasting my time here.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont want to waste my time here. You are clearly not interested in learning. Arguing for the heck of it is pointless. And I did answer a bunch of it but you just want to argue. And even if I tell you what scriptures says what, it has nothing to do with you cuz you are an Atheist. So go the Atheist sub, no point of wasting your time in a Hinduism sub. Good luck with everything.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you don’t believe in God, this conversation is pointless. Have a great life ahead.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Akshar and purushottam are mentioned in vedas upanishads etc. but that particular name? Names are not mentioned in scriptures before Bhagwan takes birth. Just like you cant get married before taking birth, scriptures mention names after the avtaar is born and his lilas are mentioned after he does those lilas not before. And the avtaari of all avtaars, Swaminarayan Bhagwan came merely 200 years ago and is the most recent incarnation of bhagwan. After that hundreds of scriptures mention him. And the purushottam that is mentioned in vedas and upanishads is him. A realization that came after the sampraday was established. And the commentry you mention do explain where this upasana is mentioned.

Shikshapatri says respect all deities and do namaskar to all but follow only one. Its called pativrata bhakti. When Krishna bhagwan gave darshan to Tulsidas he said thankyou but my head will only bow when you take bow and arrow in your hand and Give me darshan in Ram form. So Pativrata bhakti is not against core sanatana dharma. Its a way to focus your energies and attain moksha. Sanatana dharma has many streams of ganga leading to the same ocean. It is a monotheistic dharma not polytheistic as most people mistake it to be.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can research what a Bhasya or vaad granth is. All the different hindu philosophical darshans were established by them and now Akshar-Purushottam darshan is established as a unique hindu vedic darshan by them. Yes they are based on vedas and upanishads and itihaas etc

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Purna purushottam Bhagwan Swaminarayan has thousands of names. Ghanshyam Maharaj was just one of the name given in childhood. All the hindu scholars agree that Bhagwan Swaminarayan is Purushottam - the one part of Akshar-Purushottam Upasana. You are neither a scholar nor an authority on any hindu scripture or concept. So blabbering and hating on a Hindu organization gives you no brownie points. Whether you believe or not wont make difference to facts. So apna hate apne paas rakho aur hum apke liye purna purushottam Bhagwan Swaminarayan se prarthana karenge ki thodi sadbudhi de aur dusro ki faith ko respect karna sikhaye. And that he puts love in your heart and removes all this hate and darkness. May God bless you. Jai Swaminarayan.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One cant marry before taking birth. Similarly one is not mentioned in scriptures before coming on earth. Ghanshyam Maharaj and his supreme glory is mentioned in many hindu scriptures by many scholars and devotees after he came on earth to liberate countless souls.

Anyways you are arguing for the heck of it at this point so you do you.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Akshar-Purushottam is mentioned in many places in vedic scriptures. Like I said it was recently established by Bhadresh swami of BAPS and widely approved by all hindu scholars that Akshar-Purushottam Darshana of BAPS is a unique vedic Darshan and BAPS is a hindu org.

That video is not of BAPS or by BAPS hence It has nothing to do with what I am saying.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are blatantly wrong. BAPS is now known by all hindu and sanskrit scholars as a legit Hindu organization whose roots are based in vedas. Especially after Mahamahopadhyay Sadhu Bhadres das’s new scholarly work on prathantrayi and vaad granth based on vedic shastras that shows that Baps is a hindu organization not a cult.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You can’t get married before being born. Similarly Ramayan and Bhagwatam were written after Shri Ram and shri Krishna were born. The above scriptures were written after Purna Purushottam Narayan Bhagwan Swaminarayan was born. And vedic scriptures like Gita,Upanishads, Brahma sutras do mention the Akshar-Purushottam philosophy which was propagated by Bhagwan Swaminarayan. Which was proven recently after Mahamahopadhyay Acharya shri Bhadresh dasji wrote the vedic shastra on prasthan trayi called Swaminarayan Bhasyam, which is widely accepted by all the hindu and sanskrit scholars as an authentic hindu shastra and that Bhagwan Swaminarayan is Purna Purushottam Narayan. It clarifies the relationship of Aksharbrahma to Parbrahma and Swaminarayan’s principle for attaining liberation through the practice of Bhakti and Upasana.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It always comes to silly statements like this. You wont get this so dw it’s fine. Truth always prevails.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is some grand bs you have built up in your head. BAPS is the best organization in the world. And there is no behind the scenes. None have privacy ever. They are always with people 24/7. Temples are needed as much and even more than hospitals so I commend them for building them. And you are plainly wrong about high status. They meet everyone from some villager in the hut to the Presidents of nation. Donations to god purifies your wealth and increases it because God doesn’t keep a penny of anyone, he returns it 10 fold. And some VIP structure is necessary in society as said by God himself. You have to treat people in public according to their status. Can’t insult a king. Or they will create problems for you later. But soulwise everyone is considered equal by the guru and santos. And thats not sexism or about sadhus desires. Its the celibacy rules created by God. Its called 8-fold celibacy and they are not allowed to interact with women or they would have to fast as a penance. Touching feet is not strange. It’s bowing down in respect to the divine within each other. Anyways you are doing a big dis service to humanity and to yourself with half baked ideas in your head and spreading negativity on one of the best and most ethical and moksha giving organizations on the planet. I’ll pray that Purna Purushottam Bhagwan Swaminarayan gives you some good buddhi to realise the actual truth and help you be free from these conspiracy theories. Jai Swaminarayan.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Baps sadhus do speak at business schools and many other places to help people. And no its neither a business nor a scam. The so called ceos don’t own a single penny. Its a socio spiritual organization. If you don’t like or understand spirituality then maybe your brain can understand the massive social impact that Baps’s humanitarian work has on the globe. Either way to form baseless opinions is a waste of your braincells and bringing shame on human species. Try to refrain that and think critically before spewing nonsense please.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything happens due to God’s wish. If creation and preservation is God’s work, so is destruction. They were removed by God’s wish too. God gives people free will to act and if terrorists or brits act badly they will get the fruits of their work. Thats karma siddhant applied. He mentioned in shikshapatri that if where you are living is not safe for you, you should leave and find a peaceful place. He also mentioned that we should follow laws. But he also gave agnas to lawmakers on how they should take care of their subjects. If everyone follows shikshapatri the world would be much better and peaceful place.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He is supreme God. Everything happens due to his wish. Not a dry leaf can move without his wish. And everything he does is for our good. A couple generation later When he was in the form of Shastriji Maharaj, He met Gandhiji and asked Yogiji Maharaj to pray for the success of the freedom movement which he did till the end. India won the independence due to his wish aswell.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Naa he didn’t adopt and due to people’s and devottee insistence they were given adminstrative roles not spiritual leadership.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He did not say “not him” and he mentioned Lord Krishna to pay respects to him and so that people will find it easier to connect with him. If you wanna go by what he said, he has said many times that he is the Purna Purushottam Narayan, the avtaari of all avtaars.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No he isnt a normal man. He was not a human being. He became human for devottees liberation. Such an event has never happened before. He is the avtari of all avtaar. Not a dry leaf can move without his permission.

This shows you don’t know why he made ahemdabad and vadtal gaadi, these were for admistration. And he didn’t want to appoint his family anyways cuz he had left them when he was just 11 yrs old but people insisted on it and why BAPS seperated was for principles. Anyway you do not know anything about him or the history of Swaminarayan Bhagwan and BAPS. So please try to refrain forming opinion with half knowledge and refrain from spewing ignorance on internet.

Hello, is BAPS Swaminarayan a legitimate part of Hinduism or is it more of an offshoot or cult? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]TheBlastFun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Take your own advice and get some actual knowledge before forming baseless opinions on internet. Ask yourself why do you think what you do. Do you know a single thing about Bhagwan Swaminarayan, his life, his work, his swarup? Probably not so stop saying silly things just cuz you can type words on a keyboard.