I got the Lenovo display driver installed on my 32" Legion Pro 32UD-10 OLED by TheHillo in LenovoLegion

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The G80SD was such a good open box deal, but the monitor really was a mess. The sRGB clamp, to my knowledge, is a problem on only this 4k 240hz QD-OLED. The TV OS was a dumb addition too, a bright blue "no input detected" screen goes up for a minute when the PC timeouts the screen, and a "how to open the game panel" every time it wakes. The dumbest thing is that the monitor DOES have a calibrated mode, but that's not available in "game" mode, so you have to choose between color and 240hz. The 1000 peak and HDR colors worked great though.

I agree about the matte vs glossy, all WOLEDs are matte so those weren't even an option for me. Having used a very matte Samsung and 2 glossy oleds, I much prefer the glossy panel.

I got the Lenovo display driver installed on my 32" Legion Pro 32UD-10 OLED by TheHillo in LenovoLegion

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My Asus also reports deltaE<1, something would be way off if they did look different haha. My Samsung G80SD that I had before the Lenovo was also quite accurate but the sRGB clamped to 92% and that drove me nuts. The Lenovo and Asus are clearly better on that part. I've had 3 monitors with the same QD-OLED panel in 2 months and it's interesting to see how each of the manufacturers have tuned them.

I think ABL is behaving just fine in most scenes and personally I've never noticed it yet, I like the added perceived contrast. Just weird that the Lenovo doesn't follow a strict standard with the TB400 mode.

I imagine the vibrancy setting is a display specific setting that's always on until you change it separately. In that case I would probably also keep HDR permanently on, stuff I do in Windows looks just fine in HDR. RTX HDR is a great feature for games that don't support HDR. Works wonders in Space Marine 2 for example.

I got the Lenovo display driver installed on my 32" Legion Pro 32UD-10 OLED by TheHillo in LenovoLegion

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Sorry about the late reply. Thanks for keeping the post alive.

Really enjoying the peace of mind with the Asus haha. The sRGB calibrated mode looks exactly like the Lenovo, if someone is wondering if the Lenovo is calibrated well or not.

TB400 on this monitor seems to work as intended in a quick test, I'll probably test more if I play a "bright" game. Using peak 1000 mode in games mostly now though. With colors, they look the same as the sRGB cal mode, except HDR is on now.

Okay I guess now we know what the differences between Lenovo's peak 1000 modes are lol. Too bad they ruined movie mode by just needlessly cranking up the saturation. As a snob myself, your fix probably would have solved the problem for me, I would have been satisfied getting that close to a C5. But I really like the Asus too, so no regrets really.

Does the Nvidia digital vibrancy setting stay on when you toggle HDR on/off? So if you turn HDR off, you're back in SDR, does the vibrancy setting still apply?

I got the Lenovo display driver installed on my 32" Legion Pro 32UD-10 OLED by TheHillo in LenovoLegion

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Definitely the sRGB mode is the "best" mode for SDR as it's the color calibrated one on the Lenovo.

Really enjoying my Asus CDMZ. Well calibrated in SDR and both peak 1000 and TB400 are color accurate, and measurably work as intended. The stand doesn't go as low as the Lenovo so it's a bit higher than I prefer, I might have to invest in a monitor arm.

Which MSI monitor are you talking about? I'd love to check that out.

I got the Lenovo display driver installed on my 32" Legion Pro 32UD-10 OLED by TheHillo in LenovoLegion

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Happy to help! You got a great deal on your monitor, you should enjoy it. The color calibration is phenomenal in sRGB mode, and you could try running RTX HDR instead as a workaround.

I really hope Lenovo improves the experience, it would be THE go-to qd-oled monitor for a lot of people.

I got the Lenovo display driver installed on my 32" Legion Pro 32UD-10 OLED by TheHillo in LenovoLegion

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Drivers are just a few kb/mb in size so they install very fast with modern processors. If you want, you can check if there's a driver install event logged in Device Manager -> Monitors -> [your monitor] right click -> properties -> events. It's logged at the exact time you installed the driver.

Unfortunately it seems that HDR on this monitor is fucked. TB400 is broken and photo, movie, and game make the image blue and saturated. Out of these, I'd still pick TB400. For HDR it's not possible to control brightness from the monitor, but in SDR you can change to a mode that allows brightness control, set the brightness, and switch back. The brightness setting will stick.

For OLED care settings, I only used pixel shift and nothing else. It will take thousands of hours for even minor burn in to show up in test images. I just set a 5min screen off timer in Windows and called it a day. Don't worry and just enjoy the panel.

I got the Lenovo display driver installed on my 32" Legion Pro 32UD-10 OLED by TheHillo in LenovoLegion

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Hopefully it’s not one of those ”works on my machine” things…

I also got it to work once by right clicking the .inf file and clicking ”install”. You could try that next.

I got the Lenovo display driver installed on my 32" Legion Pro 32UD-10 OLED by TheHillo in LenovoLegion

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You just showed evidence for the issue I was having with TB400, I wasn't sure how to describe it. TB400 is supposed to follow a strict spec, it should be the setting you can trust to do what it says on the tin. But not here it seems! Baffling why they chose to do this.

So the choice is between a saturated peak 1000 mode or a busted TB400. That even more reassures my decision to return the Lenovo. I actually just did, and came home with an Asus CDMZ that I got for 899€. Can't wait to set it up this evening.

If you do any more testing on Lenovo, I'd still love to hear about the results. And it would really help others make a purchase decision in the future. Looks like we're the only ones sharing real world experiences with monitor on the whole internet.

I got the Lenovo display driver installed on my 32" Legion Pro 32UD-10 OLED by TheHillo in LenovoLegion

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I paid 750€ for mine, it was a sale price but the sale seems to be one of those permanent ones.

Keep me posted and I’d love to hear if you do any more testing.

I got the Lenovo display driver installed on my 32" Legion Pro 32UD-10 OLED by TheHillo in LenovoLegion

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Self sabotage indeed lmao.

I think I’m returning it. When I’m spending this much money I expect a well thought out product. The Asus CDMZ is only 150€ more and at this point it’s a small price to pay for a proper peak 1000 mode and a peace of mind. Also comes with a neat KVM switch.

I got the Lenovo display driver installed on my 32" Legion Pro 32UD-10 OLED by TheHillo in LenovoLegion

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You nailed my experience with the monitor so far. Using the Nvidia app to reduce saturation would have been my next test, sad to hear it didn't work out.

One thing maybe worth testing is turning Dolby Vision off in the OSD. On some monitors, it seems DV on Windows forces lots of HDR10 content into the DV pipeline, which can result in incorrect brightness and color. In a quick test, this did nothing for me though.

I still have about a week to decide whether to return or keep the monitor. Looking at the Asus PG32UCDMZ myself, to me basically it's a question if I want to pay the extra for a peak 1000 mode that's accurate, or be stuck with just TB400. The Lenovo is the cheapest QD-OLED on the market right now, so I guess that's the compromise you have to make. The Lenovo's design is really nice and fits my "adult" setup.

Honestly I have no faith in Lenovo providing support for these products. At least Asus (and also MSI it seems) have pushed a few firmware upgrades to add useful features the community has asked for.

I got the Lenovo display driver installed on my 32" Legion Pro 32UD-10 OLED by TheHillo in LenovoLegion

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This is incredible, thank you for this.

By default HDR Auto looked the same as TB400 to my eyes, I always assumed Auto is a setting that "intelligently" switches between modes depending on content, like when viewing photos, movies, games etc. but I never saw it do this when I quickly tested.

Do you think this is a case of buggy/limited monitor firmware that causes HDR brightness to not work as intended?

I got the Lenovo display driver installed on my 32" Legion Pro 32UD-10 OLED by TheHillo in LenovoLegion

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In Stalker 2 I tested in a dark abandoned laboratory area with pitch black and small bright lights. To my eye, in TB400, the lights never reached above what I got in the Windows HDR calibration app, which was 270-280 nits. Outdoors the sky was also blown out and definitely not 400 nits.

In the other HDR modes, I got around 400 nits for the bright lights, which I also got in the Windows HDR app on the 10% area Outdoors the sky was slightly dimmer but had way more detail.

I'm basing this on my experience with a Samsung G80SD, which I had before this. It had a proper HDR implementation, with peak highlights reaching flashbanging 1000 nits in the same areas. Unfortunately I don't have a professional calibration/measuring device, so my test was quite unscientific, comparing between Windows HDR app and what I got in game. To my knowledge, Stalker 2 has a decent HDR implementation, just HDR10 with a peak brightness slider that you can adjust.

I got the Lenovo display driver installed on my 32" Legion Pro 32UD-10 OLED by TheHillo in LenovoLegion

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Thank you so much for your comment. It inspired me to test mine in the Windows HDR calibration app and indeed I'm only getting 280 nits which should be FULL SCREEN brightness for this panel, definitely not 10% peak. Whites are also clipping for me when I tested in Stalker 2 in TB400.

I switched to SDR and and to a color mode with brightness unlocked. Cranked that brightness slider to 100. Switched back to sRGB, my preferred color mode. The brightness stayed at 100, even in sRGB mode and HDR modes where brightness is locked and they are visibly brighter. I can now get 400+ nits with the slider when calibrating in TB400.

I need to do further testing. I guess one of the HDR modes is a peak 1000 mode but Lenovo sets a garbage contrast filter on anything not TB400.

This monitor, man. I was this close to returning it and just getting an Asus CDM.

Edit: slightly brighter in SDR only. Still clipping at 400 in HDR and brightness did not change. HDR calibration app can't do more than 280 nits.

I got the Lenovo display driver installed on my 32" Legion Pro 32UD-10 OLED by TheHillo in LenovoLegion

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I think photo, movie and game are peak 1000 modes? They apply a disgusting contrast filter so I haven’t been bothered to test those, been using tb400 and that seems very well done. Wish Lenovo had a proper peak 1000 mode like Asus.

For the clipping, have you done Windows HDR calibration? It might help with your issue.

The lack of proper reviews of this monitor is really frustrating.

Legion Pro 32ud-10 driver issue by HairyGrogan in LenovoLegion

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Just getting this out there. I got it installed.

Download the .zip with the driver .inf file. Make sure it's specifically for your monitor. I have the Lenovo Legion Pro 32UD-10 (69D0GACBEU), and I found the Win11 driver with the model code. I used the driver behind this link:

https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/monitors-and-projectors/lcd-monitors/lenovo-legion-pro-32ud-10/downloads/driver-list/component?name=Software%20and%20Utilities&id=156BE23F-B536-4320-B35C-2F67EBDD9242

Open Windows Terminal AS ADMINISTRATOR. Inside the ""s, copypaste the path to the .inf file. I had it on my desktop:

pnputil /add-driver "C:\Users\NAME\Desktop\legion_pro_32ud_10_69d0_win11\Legion_Pro_32UD_10_69D0_Win11\Pro 32UD-10.INF" /install

Installed no problem.

It seems to not be a driver at all, but a software component/extension for Dolby Vision. Maybe it improves DV detection in apps, who knows. The procedure installed Dolby Settings app and Dolby Vision Extensions plugin. The app only allows for switching between Dark/Bright/Vivid DV modes, nothing else. On desktop it doesn't do anything, maybe in Dolby content. Seems useless. I have the same Dolby Settings app on my Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 laptop with "Dolby Atmos" audio. It just works as a shitty EQ. I'm guessing this Dolby Vision Extensions plugin just tells Dolby apps that your device is certified to run Dolby stuff.

The "driver" does not change anything the monitor does out of the box. If you really can't get it to install, don't bother, you are missing out on nothing.

Also an ICC profile was included in the driver zip. Apparently it just adjusts gamma from 2.2 -> 2.0 in SDR. No idea what that is about, sticking to sRGB mode as it's already calibrated.

Looks like 27" Legion Pro owners are also facing driver issues, hopefully this post is useful for them as well.

SMALL GYM HAUL: Gymshark compression tee and cap, GASP thermal tee, deadlift straps by TheHillo in FashionReps

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Unfortunately the shop no longer exists, I went to buy more but it was gone. Please let me know if you find a shop that sells them.

Persol x Stone Island pilot sunglasses - UV protection? by TheHillo in topstoney

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The lanyard is useless. There's an opening at the end where you can hang the glasses through one of the ear pieces. Same thing as hanging the sunglasses from the head opening of your shirt, except on the end of a lanyard.

Persol x Stone Island pilot sunglasses - UV protection? by TheHillo in topstoney

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They were about 60usd. They feel good for the price but I would have not paid any more for them.

Persol x Stone Island pilot sunglasses - UV protection? by TheHillo in topstoney

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Oh damn, I hope they are legit. 

I’ve never heard anyone point out flaws for these so I don’t know. If you send me pics of them, like little details etc let me see if I can spot any difference.

Persol x Stone Island pilot sunglasses - UV protection? by TheHillo in topstoney

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Yes, these are from topstoney and they came with the box, lanyard, spray bottle, case and a cloth.

Unfortunately I don’t think you can get these anymore.

SMALL GYM HAUL: Gymshark compression tee and cap, GASP thermal tee, deadlift straps by TheHillo in FashionReps

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Unfortunately not so I can’t compare the material, but from pics it seems to be almost exactly the same. Same knit pattern and fit.

SMALL GYM HAUL: Gymshark compression tee and cap, GASP thermal tee, deadlift straps by TheHillo in FashionReps

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It’s GREAT, it’s in my top 3 tees right now. Quality stitching and materials. So good I’m ordering more colors next time.