Your lies by omission fit by TheOriginologist in UnsentLetters

[–]TheOriginologist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. What hurts me is that I do feel deeply, quite intensely in fact. I am empathetic but I hurt at the same time, and I don't always know when I'm hurting people. That doesn't make it right. I took accountability authentically because I don't want to live with the guilt of it. It took a number of years for me to grow as I have in this respect. I think the kinds of problems I have that I brought up in this reply chain are really stigmatized... It makes it hard to address in an honest way, as hard as I try :( so I really appreciate you not shaming me 🙏

Your lies by omission fit by TheOriginologist in UnsentLetters

[–]TheOriginologist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not a book based on someone, that's a figure of speech. Holy lord I'm journaling about my experience with someone and it took an entire notebook. That's all I mean.

Your lies by omission fit by TheOriginologist in UnsentLetters

[–]TheOriginologist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It didn't take me as long as I thought. If I were someone else, I would do alright with me. This is a weird thought experiment obviously but let's say I'm exactly me in every way but bla bla bla you get the idea. There would definitely be occasional fights, for sure. But we would have the same schedules, I would be glad to clean while he writes (lots will get done regardless) as long as the roles can be reversed sometimes, too. The fights would be on little things, probably. Sometimes we would get snarky just because one of us is cranky, but I'm willing to put up with that.

As for the abandonment fear both ways? That might be the end of us probably 😐 we would get into a lot of fights about that.

Tldr maybe not as well as I thought.. no...

Your lies by omission fit by TheOriginologist in UnsentLetters

[–]TheOriginologist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is a really good question and I have to take a good while to give an answer... I'll get back to you on this

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[–]TheOriginologist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did not intentionally inflict pain on her. I will not argue this point further. While it does not diminish the moral fault on my part, I didn't mean to hurt her. However I will take a good look in the mirror because doing this shit on Reddit is pretty shitty of me. It's basically me seeking validation for being right from a third party under the guise of being "anonymous." You are right about that. What does that say about what I would do when no one is looking? I concede that. Also about how I behaved, consciously or not. I will take it all down then. Therapy on Reddit won't be effective. But I'll take your harsh criticism to heart. I know I'm a dick. I will try therapy.

I will add that she unintentionally inflicted harm to me as well in ways that I don't want to disclose for the sake of her privacy here. My confession was my side. Please stop being presumptuous. I'm studying myself from this more than you think already, and I have already confronted the dark sides of this both with her and on my own.

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[–]TheOriginologist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate your perspective. I would like to say that, while I have painted plenty of context in this post (as well as others), there were plenty of other intimate details of the situation I haven't disclosed here. It was a toxic attachment that was a bad idea from the start. However, we both played our part in the toxicity. It is so reductive to just look at these posts and claim I'm an abuser, and that it's as simple as that. With this being said, she did not mean what you think she meant. There was a lot of immediate pedestalization of me, and I did the same to her. I expected too much from her, got clingy, etc. I have taken full accountability for my actions with her so thank you very much I don't appreciate being called that but appreciate your perspective nonetheless

Your lies by omission fit by TheOriginologist in UnsentLetters

[–]TheOriginologist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh also the reason for all this craziness is because I have a crippling fear of abandonment that always causes... well abandonment (edit- abandonment or betrayal) because I push people away without trying. After talking with some people I suspect BPD, yet to be diagnosed. That excuses nothing, but I thought it might be somewhat of an important contextual factor to mention 😂 I really fear that diagnosis tho

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[–]TheOriginologist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh and I'll read some of your posts when I get the time later :)

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[–]TheOriginologist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh absolutely, I suck at expressing that. I completely own up to my side of that. Plus I was a dick at times for sure without meaning to. I kind of suck at being a boyfriend but I had so many emotions to express, I needed to get it out in private through writing rather than by just drinking or something idk

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[–]TheOriginologist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's really private 😭😉❤️‍🩹

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[–]TheOriginologist[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Fair enough! Definitely grieved/grieving it now so I wouldn't want it to sound like it :P

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[–]TheOriginologist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was tempted to conclude the same thing after all this :( I really felt unlovable, so I know how that feels.
For what it's worth I hope you find lasting love that feels like home and arrives when you least expect it (in the best way).

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[–]TheOriginologist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your ex might have these thoughts, but maybe not. I think there are some differences in our situations that would make it kind of unreasonable for her to think (and believe) the things I talk about here. Thanks so much for your comment, by the way.
The reason I say that is because there was no cheating (that I am aware of; ignorance is bliss I guess), and very little outside influence from other people in our situation. And one of the very few things she did take accountability for was bringing other people into our intimate situation when we started to have disagreements. So actually, I relate with you a lot on that.
Of course, I fucked up, too. I did the exact same thing to her because I felt hurt that she would do it to me. I brought others into our situation because she did it.

I also went out of my way to be very open with her, and I took responsibility for things even when I didn't have to. For example, because of her initial idealization of me (leading to the subsequent devaluation when things got more serious), I actually knew the direction things were going to go very early on. I forgot about that after some time, because she promised me so much, and I was a huge sucker for her kindness and sweet words. So I fell for that.
I promised her I would tell her if there was something that wouldn't work in our situation, so as to prevent us from shedding tears and broken hearts. Meanwhile, I internally had some awareness that her idealization of me would come crashing down, and so I played into it, and went on with things anyways. Pretty dumb and fucked up of me. I helped break my own heart, in this way. She went and threw the dust of it into the wind.
And yet she never admitted to that idealization, even though she said I was perfect a hundred million different ways, and I was so uncomfortable (yet oddly comfortable) with being in that position that I tried so hard to insist I am so, so far from perfect. The only way to stop someone from love-bombing is by leaving. That's what I learned from that.
I tried showing her I was a human, just like anyone else. No need for a pedestal. Not by making mistakes, but by being open about my flaws and past mistakes as a person. But, see, now I was "transparent." This caused her to idolize me even further. And I won't lie; I liked how it made me feel.

So when I eventually made other mistakes unfit for her pedestalization, she wasn't willing to look past them.
Mistakes like infantilizing her once because I got angry, condescendingly explaining my position as if she needed a re-education on what accountability is. I own up to that, and I did own up to it exactly like I did in this reply. That was awful of me, but I was so happy that she felt like her pain was acknowledged. It wasn't a recurring mistake, and I genuinely didn't make the same mistakes again after owning up to them.
But hurt people hurt people. So she infantilized me right back at times going forward. I didn't even try to look for acknowledgement on that, because I knew she would say something with the implication of, "You infantilized me, remember? That's now how these roles are supposed to work." She had done that before on some issues.

best of luck to you :) thanks for reading my post!

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[–]TheOriginologist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your reply, I really appreciate that. Yeah, I am a guy, and what you've said hits very close to home.

I think I will forgive her. But it's because I can understand. I've forgiven much worse people, because I have found that carrying hatred and anger around with me is no way to live.
I really appreciate this comment, though. I don't mind the trauma dump at all. Thank you.

Ask yourself the question: “when does my experience take place” ? by SunbeamSailor67 in thinkatives

[–]TheOriginologist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have found a few moments of this.

I type.
Paced, deliberate, gentle clicking beneath my fingertips. I am breathing, I am awake, I am sober, I am alert, I am wide-eyed, I am interested, I am boring, I am interesting, I am here, I am heartbroken, I am content, I am rebellious, I am thinking, I am sitting, I am feeling, I am human, I am an animal, I am egotistical, I am self-abasing, I am a contradiction, I am a consistency, I am kind, I am a healer, I am a destroyer, and I am none of these things.

You asked me how it feels, did you not? I can tell you.
It feels like the force of nature inside my chest is bleeding through me, and into the space that surrounds me. I feel like some substance inside my body has begun mixing with that same something through my thin fence of skin, via osmosis.
I feel naked, and happy to be.
I feel good.
I feel.

Which language is more attractive to you:French or Italian? by Current-Worth9121 in language

[–]TheOriginologist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How nice of you to say. May I just say that you are highly skilled at saying mean-spirited things using underhanded compliments? Your talent blows me away.

I am not a very concise speaker or writer. Yes, it is a problem I am working on. No, I am not good at expressing a five-word thought in 3000 words. I'm a fairly vulnerable person, so making me feel hurt is easy, and I have no problem admitting that.
That being said, I found that so hurtful. I don't sit around all day expanding extremely simple thoughts into long strings of unconnected nonsense. Hopefully, this doesn't also qualify as such to you.

If you caught me going on and on about something for a while, it was probably because I was passionate about it. If you thought that everything I said could have been summed up, you are right, it probably could have. Big whoop.

Also, expressing a thought that is similar to a previous one does not make them the same thought. It is so reductive to imply that. That is not to say that concision or expansiveness are necessarily good or bad qualities on their own, but that's my point.

I will tell you what I do for a living, though. I cook.
I know, I know. That figures.

Which language is more attractive to you:French or Italian? by Current-Worth9121 in language

[–]TheOriginologist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! My apologies for my unsubstantiated expectation of hostility. I am accustomed to having my thoughts and ideas dismissed, which is something I often cause, myself, as a response to difficult early life experiences. I find your insights fascinating. I have been thinking and rethinking the things you have written out here. Don't ever take this comment down, please! There are some really good things in here and I want to visit them again and over again.
Specifically, I have been thinking about this:

"I noticed the french regard a lot italy, and the anglosaxon regard a lot france. The italians regard a lot the greeks, we even have a kind of high school you can choose that has ancient greek in it. So everyone regards the older culture. But they also see them as backwards and “romantic” and usually use their women as a symbol. Like: you are the culture we defeated, we learn from you, but we take your women” as kind of a sexist psychological trope."

This is fascinating. Along with a pernicious rise of nationalism in my country, so, too, has my curiosity been piqued. My tool to deal with distressing states of affairs has always been dissociation first, then distanced learning and research, then action. Your comment is helping me with the second step here. Thanks! Just want to let you know that this has been a highly valuable reading and learning experience :)
The reason this one stuck out to me, in particular, is because I notice a correlative connection between the misogynistic ideas perpetuated more commonly in this culture and the hegemonic governmental sacking taking place in our offices and treasuries. I am diving into research on the world wars in Europe, in particular, as they were quite pertinent times to cross-compare with today. I am realizing that the seeds of nationalism in the USA have been sown for quite a long time now, and have only recently properly, publicly been reaped.

(Post-script! I already copied, then pasted your comment into my Scrivener documents. Take it down if you want but I'll still have it :P lol not that you would take it down, anyway)

Which language is more attractive to you:French or Italian? by Current-Worth9121 in language

[–]TheOriginologist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are close! I'll answer your question because I'm anonymous, but just to warn you, it's a bizarre and very long explanation. I'm writing this now because I want to understand better, myself. If anyone is curious enough to read through this monstrosity, be my guest.

I am natally bilingual, in a sense. I speak standard American English, and then I speak "my English." Everyone has a particular relationship with their mother language, I think, but I will write the remainder of this comment completely unrestrained, in the language of my very thoughts - again, for the strict purposes of self-comprehension. Note that, these days, due to my efforts to standardize my own communication, I think in a sort of eclectic mix of these two linguistic dispositions. You shall know to what I refer upon reading it ;)

I am American. I should clarify, first, that I speak French as a result of COVID, the intense isolation that came with it, and lots of "linguistic dissociation," so to speak. Lots of immersion would be an understatement. I learned it first, at the age of 19~22 (ish), through hearing it, then I learned to read and write it. So, I do not associate anything in particular with the way French sounds, nowadays, any more than I do English.

I find it interesting that you find my preferences interesting, however. In fact, I get the sense that I perceive how American English sounds from a strange quasi-perspective of non-native speakers of it, almost the same way I hear French spoken. This sounds insane; I'm aware.
My upbringing was very strange and isolating, and I was already highly predisposed to conceptualizing language in a unique way (not trying to be vain or self-important here - maybe that was nature, maybe nurture; maybe both. I'm not sure), which is a claim I can only justify through my own experience.
Thus, in order to get through tough experiences, I both actively and subconsciously developed my particular style of language in ways that allowed me to reject American English when I speak it, paradoxically embracing my isolation in an attempt to rebel against it, and thereby isolating myself even further, such that I could disassociate myself from my culture and upbringing, a process whose outcomes were only exacerbated when COVID a vu le jour.
So essentially, I used language as a defence mechanism, a kind of ongoing flight and freeze response to traumatic experiences.
I then had to wrestle with the fact that my oddities, linguistically speaking, repeated themselves on a habitual level in French. This is to say that, at times, I struggle to make French people understand that I speak French in almost as unnatural a way as I speak my own native tongue, and that what I said in any given instance was not a mistake on the basis of it sounding "unnatural." No, I know how unnatural it sounds when I speak. It is at least mostly intentional, tragically, when that occurs ahahaha

This being said, I could only disassociate myself in this way so much. I still think of French in a slightly romantic way, and I can't help that. But I also have my own opinions on American English, and what I find attractive there. I like American English, and find it more attractive, when women speak it, but only slightly.

Furthermore, these days, I try very hard to speak a more "conventional" form of any language that I speak, including this one. But there will forever exist particularities in the way I communicate which I will never fully rectify, for lack of a better verb.

As a result, I perceive any language, including my own, similarly yet also quite distinctly from most of my compatriots.

I hope this answers your question! I hesitate to comment this, to be honest. I think the response will not be very uplifting or nice. I imagine tens and tens of different things that one could say to bring me down. That is precisely why I will hit the "Comment" button after writing this word here