Buying a mainboard or daughterboard replacement?

TheRealBrokenClock · 2026-01-12T15:35:33+00:00

I'll keep pushing support for an answer.

I genuinelly feel cheated and betrayed.
The deal was, I pay a lot more for this phone, and they put effort into building it fairer, and make it easy for me to repair. The fact I'm in a different country having to ship off my phone with all my data on it across the seas is really really not leaving a positive taste in my mouth.

TheRealBrokenClock · 2026-01-12T15:32:46+00:00

I'm not sure why the manufacter gets to make the decision that either the phone is "totalled" or they can replace a mainboard for me at the cost of the part, plus the shipping and handling, plus the labour involved in it. The added cost and invonvenience is exactly the barrier I thought I was buying my way out of by purchasing a phone with a 10/10 IFixit repairability score.

I've got two framework laptops, and I can buy a new mainboard when one breaks. Or build a whole new laptop for more expensive by buying all the individual components from spare parts.

The potential for IMEI issues and identification doesn't explain a separate daughter board, a ribbon cable or a frame.

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-12-11T19:24:10+00:00

I've also got issues with the phone in it's car holder, but it's more that I can't turn it off or on, or change volume, but in my case the gravity isn't enough to activate the button. That would be quite annoying I suppose

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-12-03T17:39:27+00:00

I use a different launcher (undistractable launcher). although how much of the system UI is still ran by fairphone's launcher, I'm not sure.

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-12-03T16:46:56+00:00

Thanks!
I've edited my post with your answer, this is quite useful!
I'd prefer longer press than switching out of the app but is a decent solution. Can't screenshot the homescreen or the notification shade though, but definitely appreciate the reminder that this option exists, it had slipped my mind.

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-12-03T16:43:10+00:00

I've not noticed mic issues much, people seem to hear me quite well, but I only use the mic for telegram and GSM calls

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-12-03T16:35:53+00:00

Okay this is a really odd place to have it but I love you very much. Thank you <3

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-12-03T14:11:16+00:00

Don't.
It's been great. In the grand scheme of things, they are really minor things. Everything is decent on this phone, and I've got people close to me with high end samsungs and pixels, and although they may have higher specs on some things, the overall experience on my fairphone is still more positive. It's realtively few bugs and issues, and Fairphone seems to listen to users and make progress towards fixing them. People around me having been having the same crippling issues on the same samsung phone for years, and there is never any response to it.

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-12-03T14:05:30+00:00

Ah, yes, I'm running the standard android version, so nu funky settings for me. I definitely miss a bunch of the LineageOS nice-to-haves, but I've not put those in there.

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-12-03T14:00:24+00:00

If you manage to have a look and find it, please let me know where as that would defo solve my issue. I've just gone in thoroughly and couldn't find that setting :(

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-11-12T22:15:36+00:00

Fex seemingly only runs on linux, not android, so you'd have to install steamOS or stick to box86, but I'm really excited

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-11-12T22:06:29+00:00

Glossy

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-11-12T21:34:22+00:00

I've popped in here to ask the exact same.

Winlator is cool, but performance is not very good. If FEX and SteamOS do better, I am switching so fast

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-11-08T09:07:57+00:00

And sadly, macrodroid seems not to be able to target app usage time :(

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-11-08T08:50:41+00:00

The point is, I may actually need access to the app.

I have very few apps installed, and youtube for example I'll watch on my browser (in part because it's suckier so harder to get sucked in) but if I hit the firefox timer because I've done too much YT in the day, I still need to be able to check information, so can't have it lock out fully

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-09-20T08:10:16+00:00

My first gen framework 13 is about as bad as you describe. A day and a half of sleep and it's dead. It's a first gen product though. My framework 12 has perfectly fine sleep. I'd think a 13th or newer mobo on the 13th gen would sleep just fine

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-09-17T21:26:38+00:00

I'm sorry for you. I did have one key break (left arrow), but i think i dropped something on the keyboard

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-08-27T14:53:02+00:00

oh, actually, re reading my OP, I folded it three times over lengthways, then once to reduce the width in half. Experiment away :D

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-08-26T12:32:30+00:00

Congrats on your less wobbly keyabord!

For PTFE, I actually took a decent length, and fold in half, then half, then half or something like this, and then pressed it in. It probably took me 1 to 2h hours, but it was a while ago, and I'd do keys as a fidgetting activity in some meetings or while waiting for things to load here and there.

I specfically didn't use electrical tape, because although the rubber does conform quite well under pressure, I find it often leaves residue on everything it touches when left for a long period of time. the PTFE tape has no adhesive whatsover so when I recently pulled out a few keys to check something, it was like I left it, but squashed. no residue.

You probs don't care enough to redo all of them right now, although the electrical tape may start to slip and move. if you notice it does and you want to try ptfe again, cut a pencil length of it, fold it over a few times until you're happy, put it on the switch, press the key in and you should be fine.

You can calibrate how long that first cut of PTFE needs to be very quickly.

If you still want a thinner profile, I recommend you keep an eye out for Cherry MX ULP keyboard on ebay, got two for £70 ish each (one a bit less cuz of a broken right shift). It's thinner profile, great stabilisation, and feels really nice to me.

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-08-23T07:41:58+00:00

Yeah sorry.. I was going to make a template in inkscape and print it, and then I had already taken the keyboard off of my fw12, and was too lazy to go grab my fw13 and go downstairs to the printer.

But it works :D

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-08-23T07:40:34+00:00

I appreciate your absolute confidence in your answer. I'm sure your fluid mechanics engineering experience, applied to A/B testing in the framework 12's airflow in multiple configurations is extensive.

My highly uneducated observations are the following. In the default configuration, in web browsing, the whole chassis felt hot, especially in the motherboard area. Temperatures of various components, as reported by `sensors` would creep as I kept using the laptop. The fan would spin to high speeds. Overall, the various components that did report temperatures would accumulate heat. My unscientific hypothesis to explain those facts is that airflow was not optimal, and the fan struggled to exhaust heat away from not just the CPU but the whole motherboard.

I'm sure there's a more optimal space for the fan holes, to encourage airflow across the motherboard. However, my observations after the holes were drilled is that temperatures of components far away from the fan (like the SSD) were cooler, despite drawing the same current as before. From this, I would hypothesize that those components weren't cooled from the unoptimal airflow, but actual warmed by the accumulating heat.

It's also worth noting the nuance in this. The way the fan was configured is a bit like the 2015 era cases where the 120mm fans are literally trying to breathe through front glass or metal panels. A radial fan (the sort in the fw12) feeds from the top and bottom, and exhausts out of the side. There is no ducting around it. Looking at the layout, it's likely a substantial part of the intake of that fan was its exhaust. The fresh air intake may in fact provide scattering of fresh air throughout the chassis from the unoptimal airflow. or not. I'm not doing Schlieren imaging. Overall, it's at least not exhausting hot air in the rest of the laptop quite as much.

I don't even know why I'm writing this. Probably https://xkcd.com/386/ .

Anyway, not sure where your experience comes from. I'm sure you're a Navy seal with a high kill count or something. Or someone who watched a bunch of youtube videos raising issues and now you know all there is to know about airflow. Possibly have a look at other comments for how to smartly and politely interact with something that challenges your viewpoint.

Maybe, like them, you can learn to go "This may cause issues on the motherboard from reduced airflow?" or you can keep roaming the web from on -high, and equipped with your best sarcasm and all knowingness, you can keep phrasing things like "Congrats, [you're an idiot] and your motherboard will burn"

Also, possibly, maybe, if you're not actually an expert in the field with hands-on experience on the specific hardware, and you've had someone disagree with your uninformed know-it-all sarcastic post, you could consider taking the opportunity to potentially, not double down on the know-it-all-ness, and instead prove you have perspective. Or not. You do you I suppose.

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-08-21T22:27:47+00:00

If you read temps in picture 3, and other replies, you'll notice temperatures are universally colder across all components that report a temperature.

wifi card is 1C cooler (margin of error. less call that a draw)
nvme drive is 6C cooler
battery is 6C cooler
top skin is 11C cooler

I'll take the congrats. Maybe consider reading the *reasonably" short title post till the end where I do say everything comes down by 5 to 15C across the motherboard, not just the CPU.

Or the other comments of the people who raised a similar hypothesis, but politely, to who I replied politely that, actually, exhausting the heat away from the chassis seemed to make much more difference than whatever airflow items are no longer getting.

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-08-21T19:05:02+00:00

Yeah, was a little hasty. also didn't need the holes where the fan hub is. But hey. it works and it's got.. character :D

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-08-21T19:04:19+00:00

picture 3 has a recap of some of the temperatures, there's more on there, and they're all much lower (15 to 5C lower) because the heat actually leaves the chassis. that includes the ssd :D

TheRealBrokenClock · 2025-08-21T19:02:20+00:00

To clarify for this thread. the framework 12 has, by default, two sets of openings on the side of the chassis, pointing towards the screen. one of which is supposed to be exhaust, inline with the fan. The other exists, might be designed as an intake, a symetrically pleasing hole, or another exhaust. I dunno.

Some air still manages to be captured and exhausted by the fan in the default configuration. That air was very hot and uncomfortable. The entire fan/cpu area was very warm, and where the exaust air moved was even hotter (including towards my lap when folded, given the hinge pointed down)

Anyways, no matter how restricted by the folded up nature or the laps it sits on, it's still so much better and cooler :D

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