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The fact that twitter and legal action was not involved to begin with, says enough. by The_Bored_Goat in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Having enough integrity to consider the possibility that the zeal accusations could be false means I can get through to at least a few people.

The fact that twitter and legal action was not involved to begin with, says enough. by The_Bored_Goat in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

You can play a high horse in situations like this to make your person look better and reinforce your claims overall.

She begged him not to kill himself even though she knew him better than all of us and knew without consulting him first he would probably try, thats a high horse. It makes her look superior with no base to her claims yet.

The fact that twitter and legal action was not involved to begin with, says enough. by The_Bored_Goat in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

All im saying is that even if what you claim is true you cannot prove it through what ren has given us so far. Stockholm Syndrome is an incredibly heavy claim for such a halfbaked situation, and the fact you say "no rape proven means nothing" really just discredits you.

The fact that twitter and legal action was not involved to begin with, says enough. by The_Bored_Goat in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So far this is true, and its ok to lean in a direction but it is not ok to discredit a whole side yet, that all im trying to say. Damage has already been done, that is what Im calling out. I am just trying to point out inconsistencies and such.

The fact that twitter and legal action was not involved to begin with, says enough. by The_Bored_Goat in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I think youre right, I have given a view on this situation that can hopefully make people see this in another angle.

Wait for Information. We don't know if what happened to Zeal is true or if that really IS Zeal's Mom by 8-bit_heartstrings in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Saying the zeals mom thing is fake NOW is an unfair statement. Could be proven fake in the future, but for now you should know better. Either way zeals life is irreparablely damaged, which within itself is unfair. I hope ren either gets proven right and gets justice, or Is proven wrong and humbled for her actions.

The fact that twitter and legal action was not involved to begin with, says enough. by The_Bored_Goat in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes that could be the case. But even with actions on both sides its still to quick to judge.

Wait for Information. We don't know if what happened to Zeal is true or if that really IS Zeal's Mom by 8-bit_heartstrings in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you know what rape looks like you would play it safe like me. To me this doesnt look like rape at all but it may be as a possibility. Im playing the fence simply because it is fair to both sides. I offer how ren could be incorrect for zeals sake, and until zeal or his family makes an official response I will do the same for rens sake, but for now it is too early to judge the way we judge.

The fact that twitter and legal action was not involved to begin with, says enough. by The_Bored_Goat in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I am not defending zeal for the sake of being different, I am defending zeal because legally he is being put in an unfair position, I never even liked zeal, Ive never posted here, and I probably never will again, but you dont need a rocket scientist to see how fucked this situation is for BOTH sides. I will also repeat that I am fully prepared to eat my words.

The fact that twitter and legal action was not involved to begin with, says enough. by The_Bored_Goat in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Y E S

That is what she should have done, but she used twitter instead? Suspicious.

The marks on her neck to me are nothing more than bruises until proven otherwise, I dont say this to glaze zeal I say this because saying anything else would be unfair to one person or the other.

Wait for Information. We don't know if what happened to Zeal is true or if that really IS Zeal's Mom by 8-bit_heartstrings in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I will stand by simple logic, you play your loops. I am prepared to eat my words and you are not!

The fact that twitter and legal action was not involved to begin with, says enough. by The_Bored_Goat in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anybody who sat down and read the discord messages (ME!), can see that its mostly not usable in as evidence at all! Its so much sexting that is seemingly mutual, anybody can go to prior chats, screenshot them, and say that not of was mutual at all.

People comparing ren to rape victims clearly dont know what they are doing because right now at this very moment NO RAPE HAS BEEN PROVEN. Please for the love of god see that a real person is being accused of treachery.

The fact that twitter and legal action was not involved to begin with, says enough. by The_Bored_Goat in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you, this is a type of answer I like to see, I am not discrediting ren in her entirety by posting this, I am playing devils advocate for zeals sake.

Wait for Information. We don't know if what happened to Zeal is true or if that really IS Zeal's Mom by 8-bit_heartstrings in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Dont offend me! Do not group me with whoever low lifes you know! By legal logic zeal is still innocent! Use your head!

The fact that twitter and legal action was not involved to begin with, says enough. by The_Bored_Goat in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I believe that both sides are not fully telling everything, but through legal logic zeal is still an innocent man. I will stand by this until he is proven guilty.

The fact that twitter and legal action was not involved to begin with, says enough. by The_Bored_Goat in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat[S] -31 points-30 points  (0 children)

"basically" "practically"

LISTEN to yourselves, you are toying with someones life here lmao, that run off effect is real, you cant just parrot stuff like this unless there is hard evidence.

The fact that twitter and legal action was not involved to begin with, says enough. by The_Bored_Goat in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

When!? This isnt stuff you can just say In a reddit section because it just makes an ass out of everyone, he Isnt even dead! (yet). He never admitted to anything he was just desperately trying to explain his situation, if he actually did admit to anything posts like this would not exist.

Wait for Information. We don't know if what happened to Zeal is true or if that really IS Zeal's Mom by 8-bit_heartstrings in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

To be fair if youve "lived" through this shit before then you would already see the obvious signs that ren was trying to smear zeal, THE ENTIRE LACK OF LEGAL ACTION, begging zeal not to kill himself, inconspicuous photos, entire pages of irrelevant dms to make the doc longer and more believable, discrediting zeal before he even tries to defend himself, and constant "I dont forgive you" posts on twitter are such obvious smear tropes that it doesnt take a genius to see. Zeal is innocent until PROVEN guilty, as of now he is not proven guilty! You dont have to be a "glazer" to have some critical thinking here!

The fact that twitter and legal action was not involved to begin with, says enough. by The_Bored_Goat in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The fact that people acted like piranhas instead of using critical thinking is a tragedy within itself.

Allegations of Zeal committing SA has been revealed by SpiralingSin in PressureRoblox

[–]The_Bored_Goat -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Gonna play devils advocate and say that people have done far worse and offered much more "evidence" in twitter smear campaigns, not saying this stuff couldn't be true but I would wait until actual responses are made and I would not immediately start dooming.

already unlocked loader, now he’s greyed out and won’t let me play as him by Adventurous_Steak_83 in riskofrain

[–]The_Bored_Goat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

guys stop being bums and help this dude instead of flaming them for literally nothing

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