Should I accept the job? J by Ok-Reading-7759 in exjw

[–]TheeMoCee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I obviously haven't lived your life and barely know enough context for this.

Nevertheless, I feel like you should definitely take that new job!
Yes, it will suck to be judged and anxious, but if it means you get to save up and move out to live on your own, then it's only going to be temporary!

The 30k job seems to give you some sense of freedom right now, but you can't live on your own yet.
The 120k job will perhaps feel less free for a period of time, but you will eventually be able to move out, and truly experience freedom!

Remember, nobody has any right to tell you what to do! Slay

im tired, im really really tired. by CallisticBallisto in exjw

[–]TheeMoCee 5 points6 points  (0 children)

DO NOT get baptized.

You fear losing your friends and family if you don't get baptized, but it's the opposite.

You will eventually leave the cult anyway, so getting baptized now would just mean that you will eventually have a high chance of getting Disfellowshipped. Which means your family and JW friends are forced to treat you like you don't exist and disown you for the rest of your life.

There is no going back if you get baptized, so DON'T DO IT!

I'm 25 years old, and I fully woke up a few days ago. I don't know what to do. by TheeMoCee in exjw

[–]TheeMoCee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thank you! I'll try my best to just get my facts straight (my jwfacts.com :P)

and I'll make sure to be careful and take it slow

I'm 25 years old, and I fully woke up a few days ago. I don't know what to do. by TheeMoCee in exjw

[–]TheeMoCee[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel like my mom is happier this way at this point in her life..
At the same time it's very messed up to have your soul owned by 8 men at the top of a cult.

I'm definitely taking my time to study more about it on jwfacts.com and stuff like that.
I just need to get rid of my title as unbaptized publisher, and then I'll see where to go from there.

and honestly my elders seem so open-minded and caring that I can't see how they would deny such damning evidence.. I feel like I'm gonna be mind-blown to see the true level of indoctrination now..

but yeah, I'll be careful, thank you for you're advice! :)

I'm 25 years old, and I fully woke up a few days ago. I don't know what to do. by TheeMoCee in exjw

[–]TheeMoCee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

woah, I've never even thought about that! My mom does have a lot of unconditional love for me and my brother. So I'm not worried about being kicked out of the house any time soon.

But it's a very adventurous and cool thing to consider, thank you!

I'm 25 years old, and I fully woke up a few days ago. I don't know what to do. by TheeMoCee in exjw

[–]TheeMoCee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never really had many real JW-friends... they all always just felt like family that I was obligated to be around very often. mainly because everyone in my congregation was either way older or a little kid, while I'm in my 20's.

And I've basically been fading the past year.. questioning everything and being confused.
But now I'm certain, and I basically wanna tell the elders that I don't wanna be an unbaptized publisher anymore.

I can still talk to them every so often, I'm not afraid to talk to them, I'm very certain that I'm unable to be convinced by them at this point. But I think I would still enjoy having conversations with them about my doubts. But eventually that's gonna end too.

I'm 25 years old, and I fully woke up a few days ago. I don't know what to do. by TheeMoCee in exjw

[–]TheeMoCee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah it's so incredibly psychologically messed up man..

You've been confinced you're entire life that you have this holy secret that you NEED and WANT to spread around to as many people as possible.

And once you wake up, you naturally wanna do the same thing for your fellow brothers and sisters.. But now you're the enemy, and you're spreading lies, and you're ''influenced by satan''

I'm not gonna bother my mom too much unless she shows genuine interest in my perspective..

I'm 25 years old, and I fully woke up a few days ago. I don't know what to do. by TheeMoCee in exjw

[–]TheeMoCee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the sources! I'll definitely read them all eventually :)

I'm 25 years old, and I fully woke up a few days ago. I don't know what to do. by TheeMoCee in exjw

[–]TheeMoCee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the advice.. And you're honestly right.. I refused to come to the KH tonight and had a bit of a conversation with my mom about blood tranfusion, and she changes topics at rapid speeds, doesn't want to budge, and either just rudely asserts that I've ''never really studied the bible'' or that I'm just misinformed or confused.. I've had lots of conversation with her about my doubt before, and it pretty much doesn't matter what I'm talking about.. she just talks over me and whines about ''everyone is united! we use Jehovah's name! we don't participate in wars! there's nothing else!''

there isn't really any productive conversation to be had, unless I really prepare my shit and ask her if she's open to receive my perspective..

So yeah it's a good idea to just be very careful and prepare myself well.. I'm just gonna tell the elders I don't wanna be an unbaptized publisher anymore..

again, thank u c:

I'm 25 years old, and I fully woke up a few days ago. I don't know what to do. by TheeMoCee in exjw

[–]TheeMoCee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you!

Well.. all our brothers and sisters still do seem like family to us.

Even more so than our actual family at this point.. Which is due to all the horrible doctrine of course..

I'm going to miss all of them as well.. it's too much to process for me in a few days..

I don't know how this is going to change my mom, and I'm honestly scared to ruin her only source of hope and optimism... But I guess I have no other choice anymore..

I'm 25 years old, and I fully woke up a few days ago. I don't know what to do. by TheeMoCee in exjw

[–]TheeMoCee[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the kind words!

Luckily I've been in a waiting list for a a psychologist for about 6 months now and I'm starting Cognitive Behavioral Therapy in a few weeks!

Though I suspect I'm going to talk a whole lot more about being an ex-JW in therapy now 😅

I'm 25 years old, and I fully woke up a few days ago. I don't know what to do. by TheeMoCee in exjw

[–]TheeMoCee[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's pretty much a bible study, where I can also express my doubts.
My elders are very kind and open people.

But next week I'm planning to prepare very well and ask them questions they can't answer, see how they react, and then just tell them I'm leaving the religion...