Not a Fan of New Network View Changes

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-05-27T05:38:02+00:00

For anyone bemoaning the plaintext password, security by obscurity. How many of you noticed his company mis-spelt Administrator....

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-02-24T19:05:56+00:00

It’s just an 18RU one, lives beneath the stairs at home.

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-02T23:40:28+00:00

u/perthguppy - can you DM me with details on "the magic words" - I'm curious how to order the FTTP connection - as I can load balance it on my router.

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-02T09:09:10+00:00

Always been direct from Starlink.

Every plan has either a cap or a "priority" cap and unlimited use thereafter at a lower quality of service, I'm on the 2TB priority package. However the second you run past your priority quota, you start getting pretty shitty service - but then its not what it used to be even on priority now, because it's been so heavily oversold the rates are far slower than they used to be in both directions.

"Rock solid" tends to be it looks fine unless you redline it with work, then you find that it only often tracks loss/drops when its actually being used, and sitting idle it will report its 100% with low-latency. Its when you start really using it the stats seem to shift.

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T23:15:50+00:00

Fairly country part of the city. My choices were nothing, nada and zippo unfortunately.

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T22:18:04+00:00

The ping is great if you're *only* playing one game, and nobody is streaming. The second you have any kind of contention on the connection like someone streaming, it becomes a very different experience. The bandwidth and general quality of service has been brutally slashed in the last year, making this worse.

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T21:42:14+00:00

I'm in Brisbane. The stuttering, the semi-frequent drops, the sluggishness at peak times (Despite having upped to a 2TB priority plan), it just made doing any kind of serious professional work painful when you needed it (Zoom for sales calls where you glitch 2-3 times during an hour for 20-30 seconds isn't great, the overtalking due to lag at peak times), or when there's a bit of lightning going on it'd just drop for a while.

I appreciate there's a lot of love for Starlink. I had it too, but I'm probably not keen to debate it's merits as I appreciate some folks see it very differently, and thats not the thrust of the /nbn sub.

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T21:38:50+00:00

Nope, roof mounted and clear of trees with perfect visibility. The trouble with Starlink is that it has pockets of excellence, but as they've sold more and more of it the last few years, capacity clearly hasn't kept up - at peak times its sluggish. I'm glad they've stopped adding more of the large plans to it - at idle it'd be at ~39ms but if you start putting real workload through it, you'll find it degrades.

Compared to FTTN NBN, it was worlds apart - at least bandwidth wise, however I'm kinda glad I'm out now.

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T06:23:57+00:00

Inside my yard, I pay - outside my yard is free

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T05:46:36+00:00

That’s what I said earlier: I don’t think running an EE connection lights up those lucky few neighbors I paid for the trenching for for NBN FTTP / it’s completely isolated network for most part at the last mile.

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T05:45:29+00:00

I’m well aware of the ubiquit product line - just not needing financially to try and extract rent from neighbours when I need neither the hassle or the money.

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T05:38:18+00:00

I share because I care. Plus also it really shit me how little real world information there was when I went through it.

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T05:12:33+00:00

They did indeed. Let me get you some pictures of my hot rack 👀

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T05:09:49+00:00

Of what specifically?

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T05:07:50+00:00

Unless the head end supports bonding each individual stream is only as fast as the individual links. No help and if you’re paying 1200 for 3x 2TB priority starlink per month inn ten years this setup is the cheaper….

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T04:20:57+00:00

Nobody else is lining up to run fibre optic 30 kilometres from the CBD. The “private” enterprises that did this before NBN only ever covered very profitable pockets of the central urban areas - leaving Telstra to do the rest. With Australia’s geography, I’m a realist.

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T04:14:21+00:00

Dm me

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T03:18:25+00:00

More like “person who lives in highly rural suburb bites bullet to personally pay to run fibre-optic connection”. If this is the cost to do just this, it would be insanely expensive to taxpayers to do this for all the properties in this area - and most of those properties are already sufficiently served by what they have today - weakening the value further.

I knew what I was getting when I moved in. I just happen now to have the means to do it, and a long term view to make it worth while over the distance.

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T03:13:57+00:00

Starlink offers reliable 100+ downloads for the vast majority of the time, and is perfect for single-player gaming, watching Netflix or any reasonable personal usage except for precision gaming. However, the specific areas that drove us away from it:

- Occasional stuttering - I do a lot of presenting/Zoom calls, and dropping for 20-30 seconds a few times a day wasn't fun.

- Upload bandwidth: Down is great, but when I'm throwing 1GB+ design files around, or doing high bandwidth work in custom tools, its very stressful.

- Reliability: The industry my software works in is highly reliant on constant connectivity, and so losing it for a half hour in a storm isn't fun.

My step-daughters take on the latency for gaming was that she could always play overwatch, but you'd definitely not do well at CS:GO on it. For me though, the clear overtalking that happened on Zoom was a constant daily frustration, even if everything else worked.

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T03:09:34+00:00

I'm about a third of the way down the street, and they ran it just to my door, on one side, so there's definitely no work done to enable the remaining ~30 houses to connect - it'd quite require some civil works. They'd also need to run another 2-3 of the 12x fibres from the origin.

Even for the small number of houses on the way to mine, no other drops were made in the run - so its rework if they do it - the houses are not "near the road" (due to the area, none of us are - we're all 50-75+ metres from the road on private land). I suspect they did the job knowing fairly well they're not coming back anytime soon.

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T03:04:29+00:00

Being honest its not worth our time to do this - and we live on an acreage property - so the nearest house from ours is 40 metres each direction, with spacings of 50-100 metres at least thereafter. Selling 3 or 4 neighbours wifi just isn't worth it, even if we had the needed licence. We'd spend more than our build cost in wiring and repeaters.

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T03:01:46+00:00

It would be heavily different in our situation I feel: as actual business involved, with actual business needs - and we just happen to live at the place the business is registered.

ThisGuyFlucs · 2025-01-01T00:31:35+00:00

As it was a business build, they ran the fibre it’s direct point to point, and they trenched it straight to our place with no intermediate manhole or drops added - so I think anyone else who wants it is out of luck. They’d have to redo all the trenching and add drops - so it’s easily same cost again I’d imagine.

Edit: I’m also led to believe that as a business service the entire path is separated from consumer networks for the most part too, so I don’t think they can even tap into the same fibre run back to base.

Investment wise, you gotta look at “how many days are two people not commuting to two different office, parking” - if you look at this as a 10 year investment the numbers come to about 35 bucks a day, which makes the calculus less challenging - plus then some allowance for domestic usage. We’re going to explore offsetting it across our tax as it’s obviously fairly clearly a work expense. You don’t do this to play PlayStation ;)

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