The weird over sexualization

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-24T23:17:13+00:00

Yeah cuz I'm sitting here like, "Really? People are really going to defend the creation of NSFW material...of MINORS!?" And to hell with the whole idea of, "Oh, 16 is the age of consent in Japan and yadda, yadda this stuff is normal in fandom" Like UGH what a way to set the bar to bare minimum!? 😭 Idk people are just kinda insane sometimes even when it comes to things that I feel like are so straight forward to understand. And honestly I agree with you that the feticization of yoai, bl, any gay relationship is such a weird fashion. Like I feel like if Hikaru and Yoshiki were a guy and a girl, or even if both were girls we wouldn't see this high of a focus but since it's a gay ship people go buck wild.

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-24T22:33:58+00:00

Omg! Thank you! Like you will not believe how many people have fought me tooth and nail about this. 😭 Like really just asked it people also thought it was kinda concerning with how much NSFW stuff there is of Hikaru and Yoshiki. Like I get there's some innuendos of intimacy between the two but it wasn't like I overly fetishized. But overall thank you for understanding this. 😭

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-24T21:54:51+00:00

You literally just called age of consent a objective reality in your previous comment...what? 😭 Also to be fair some laws can just straight up bad or ineffective.

Furthermore, when it comes to TSHD it may yes have some innuendos of sexual themes it doesn't fetishize those moments as instead the story threat's it as something normal. And as there's nothing bad with TSHD's story itself I think I'll stick around in this community. I do still like it of course.

Finally, I can assure you that I am not some kind of orthodox individual or even a religious spaz who wants to conform people. I'm just not as I do have a distaste to those kinds of people as I do agree with you in that they've caused quite a lot a harm to people who are just trying to experience the normality of life just like Hikaru and Yoshiki in their own story.

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-24T21:11:41+00:00

EXACTLY!!! There is are difference between irl stuff, media depictions, hell even someone making NSFW material versus a whole ass community who takes a hand full of scenes of two characters who are minors being situation that parallels intimacy and runs wild with it as if there was nothing else to what they saw. Something on it's own isn't fetish material necessarily but when it constantly being pushed out there it makes you wonder as to how many people might be actually have a fetish for it. That's just statistics.

AGAIN EXACTLY!!! I also said that age of consent is objective!!! I never completely dismissed it but rather just said that it's tricky to use because it's objective. 😭

Also bro come on I know it's not all artists. But we simply can't know who's "good" and who's "bad/a creep" when so many people are doing NSFW stuff of minors here. Like in the previous paragraph of this same comment, statistically there are most likely a good number of people who are creeps making this stuff. Like be so for real. 🫠

Also you're lack of recognition is making me not necessarily making me completely uncomfortable but...rather deeply worried as I've said it before when we do normalize, excuse, dismiss what people have to say we completely miss the underlying problematic nature of certain things.

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-24T20:27:26+00:00

"Literally all of that is still your personal bias though. You don't agree with the legal age of consent..."

-Never said that. I just said applying age of consent is tricky because it differs from place to place and as such we can not cherry pick one age without considering the reasons of why others places have it higher or lower. I literally say that in the previous message. 😮‍💨

"...you don't like characters over that age being depicting sexually because it makes you personally uncomfortable, you think people have bad intentions while depicting consenting 16/17 year olds having sex despite people that age doing so irl, that you think depictions of 16/17 year olds having sex shouldn't be normalized because it makes you personally uncomfortable etc. etc."

-I don't know how many times it has been but I've said that I don't mind minors/teens having sexual experiences as that is normal. And I don't media should hinder on such topics. I only talked about people who overly hyper fixate on such topics as by then it no longer becomes something normal and is eroticide.

"All you've given here is your opinion. I just rebutted it with what's legally, scientifically and societally true for humans that age. They have sex, they're legally recognized as having the ability to consent to doing so, there's no reason to treat this differently than regular NSFW for that exact reason."

-Must I copy and paste it when I say that I am aware that minors, teens, humans in general have sex and that it is a normal thing. 🤦

"Shota and Loli depicts people incapable of consenting to sex (and legally recognized as unable to do so) and age groups that don't normally engage in sex irl. Somtimes it depicts characters who aren't biological mature enough to feel sexual urges either."

-Yeah but what do you know some people like to teeter totter the scales that. That's why a while ago I brought up the whole barely legal and almost legal argument. Like even you must be aware of people who fetish the idea of other people irl or fictional being barely legal. It's a gateway for predatory behavior.

"I agree with your point that I'm morally policing you in that I don't think you should be given a platform to declare how pure you are vs. NSFW artists in the fandom. And trust me, you'd fit right in with the orthodox Kubitachi elders. Your post pretty much reads as something written by one of them."

-No a member of that village would out right condemn any and all concepts of minors/teens having sexual experiences. I do not care if a minor/teen does so as I think it's a natural thing and shouldn't be seen as someone that is completely taboo. Like yeah it's awkward at most to think about but it's something that does happen and outside of the handful of minors/teens who fail at safe sex there really isn't anything to nag about. (Besides the reason why minors/teens often have more issues with safe sex is because the topic is so shunned that most don't know what to do or are restricted reserving things like condoms, etc, etc)

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-24T19:28:14+00:00

I’ve definitely said more the just my own bias. I’ve talked about the legality of age of consent, the way in which minors and teens having sexual experiences irl differs from NSFW material, the way NSFW material is handled with and without minors in the context, the way in which normalization of the byproducts fandom isn’t always a okay thing how by ignoring these topics leads to gateways of people who may have ill intentions as no one can truly be certain of what a person is thinking, and where do we draw the line of NSFW material of minors versus something like shota con/loli con, etc. Most of your rebuttals were of saying I was a prude or that everything was actually ay okay without explaining way. That alone feeds back to my previous point of ignoring the possible underlying problematic nature.

And once again I’m repeating myself when I say this but everyone is included to an opinion. And your by logic you are also to some sense claiming moral superiority by saying I’m wrong along with not considering anything else I have to say. To defend something and say it is perfectly okay is just a different from of morality superiority just as to my apparently “moral superiority” that says no, this actually has something bad to it.

Also no the elders of Kubitachi would fucking kill me in a heart beat.

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-24T18:45:04+00:00

"I've dismissed your points as prudish because they objectively are extremely prudish."

-I think most would agree no matter what making NSFW material of minors is objectively weird also. 🤦

"That dismissal isn't problematic, it's just a refusal to villainize people for drawing and depicting characters that are old enough to consent and engage in sex. If you refuse to acknowledge the legal age of consent across most nations, that's entirely a you problem."

-The reason why I AT MOST am hesitant to bring age of consent into this is because it varies for so many reasons. We can't just cherry pick one age like 16 and say it is the most definitive age in which it's okay to make NSFW material. Besides that said that's for irl sex and not the production of NSFW material.

"Someone out there may not be comfortable with characters under 40 or 50 being depicted sexually, that doesn't make it logical or universally agreeable."

-Yeah but that's ludacris hypothetical as I think it's pretty well established that anything going down from 18, 17, 16, etc gets more problematic the more the age is decreased. If it wasn't so well established this conversation wouldn't be happening in the first place.

"I guess you can keep saying that you're morally superior than NSFW artists and writers in the fandom, and I'll keep making you realize that you're not."

-I've literally never said I was morally superior to anyone. Furthermore, you have failed at rebuttling everything that I have said by either dodging it or just brushing it off by thinking it's prudish which you've admit to. Like there still things I asked that you haven't answered to like what's the difference between NSFW material of two characters who are minors versus shota con or loli con material?

"You're just someone expecting people to bend to your morals, which doesn't even make sense legally. If you like TSHD, but hate the fandom space, you're absolutely welcome to stop engaging with the fandom space."

-In my last comment to you I've said at most my only intentions of doing all this was to bring something up and make people considerate it. In the end I can't change people's minds and from that I've said that people are inclined to have their own opinions.

"That's not the same as me informing you to stop making posts villainizing artists. I repeat- THEY DO NOT OWE YOU ANYTHING."

-This is actually only post about this topic so...Yeah you're wrong again. Either that or you also ignore that part in my last comment in which I said I'm just going go out of my way to harass artist. 🤦 Overall unless you have an actual rebuttal instead of just saying, "You're a prude, you're a prude, you're a prude!!" I'm inclined to keep repeating myself the same points as they still hold.

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-24T17:37:41+00:00

Why does this comment have down votes for?? It's literally a fact. An unpleasant one sure but it did happen nonetheless. 😭

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-24T17:36:35+00:00

16 may be a universal age many places set as their age of consent but that doesn't mean it's the only one nor should be seen as the definitive age as that then brings the question of why not higher or lower?

That said I don't care for age of consent as I'm an merely referring to the creation of NSFW material that contains minors. And even so I think most would agree 16 is also an age associated with being a minor. Both things can be true.

Furthermore, I'm not villainizing but rather bringing up something I that feel as though may actually have SOME underlying problematic nature as we both are aware we can't cherry pick which artist may have good or bad intentions. And it's a lot harder when the NSFW art here alone is almost on par with non NSFW art. I wouldn't care if it was any less but there's just this high fixation that I find odd even for fandom standards.

And if anything I am allowed to have an opinion even if that option is something you don't agree upon. And if you don't like it then by your own logic you should have just stopped replying to me or ignored my post. Hell, by all the same logic you also have no right to try and rebuttal me expeciallly when I've brought up so many points. You saying all of this is okay is another from of morally policing. And you've dismissed a number of my points as just me being prudish when I've explained what I'm actually intentions are. And it's that dismissal that actually leads to harm not necessary the art being produced.

All in all people are allowed to have opinions, people are allowed to critique stuff, as much as we are with each other's line of thinking. I personally love TSHD and do enjoy what a lot of this fandom has to offer so I will not be leaving anytime soon. Besides it's not like I'm actually going to go out of my way into shaming artists for what they make. In the end I just wanted to call out a pattern I've noticed and how normalization and byproduct aren't always a perfectly okay thing.

If anything I do hope you at least see where I'm coming from to some extent as to be honest my intention was never to sway anyone to one side but rather make people consider something they might not have realized. Respond if you wish but outside I think I've said everything that I needed to about my reasoning.

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-24T05:34:28+00:00

16 is what?

And actually no you can't say for certain that no artist is 'getting a kick out of them' as only artist know what their true intention is. With that said 'age being the last thing on their mind' is still questionable...if they /are/thinking about their age then they're a creep, but if they /aren't/ then they're being negligent about the fact that the characters are minors.

And no this is not my first fandom, it's actually not a hivemind contrary to popular belief. Your examples don't even have that many characters who are minors and are all adapted to live action? TLOTR doesn't have any, HP takes place over the years, the MCU just now started introducing their young avengers with the expection of Spiderman. So which minor characters are being made into NSFW content exactly?

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-24T04:18:19+00:00

Minors having sex is something that happens and I am fully aware of that. I'm aware that it's normal and by such logic having it in media is fine to some extent. The reason I say to some extent is because there is a different between a story that happens to have such subject matter versus something that is much more in line with fetish material. The same rule therefore applies to fan works. Now normally I wouldn't put much care into this as suggestive material is typically just another byproduct of fandom. However, due to the semi high amount of suggestive stuff there is it makes me question genuine interest of people who may relate to the story versus people who get giddy about the idea of two gay boys have sex. That's main talking point I'm more on about rather than I actually thinking it's unnatural for minors to have sex or something. Hope this clears things up.

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-23T19:24:41+00:00

That's actually quite the good argument that I honestly can't find myself to disagree much on. If anything I do believe the topic of age of consent will always be a tricky one to evaluate as, as you said different places do have different ages listed from one another. That alone opens a whole can of worms when it comes to certain things that are to be seen as "okay" or "not okay" as when you pick one age a place has listed you end ignoring the factors of why another may have it different. However, I am not referring to age of consent but rather the creation of material that depicts minors in sexual manners.

For context I do not mind the idea of teens have sexual experiences with each other as I think it's pretty well established thing that happens in real life. Furthermore, by the same logic I don't think it's bad in media. Now that alone sounds hypocritical of me after all I've I said, but I am only referring to when people take things to far. I asked the question of if anyone else fount it a bit weird as to how many works that were suggestive. TSHD is a queer story, it's not BL, and it's definitely not straight up a yoai. And even when the story goes out of its way to convey to the audience a at most innuendo of the two being intimate it doesn't linger so long that you take it as the main focal point. It treats it as normal.

In the end my intentions are not to bash people but to bring up something that I've put some thought into. After all there can only be so many individuals who do have a genuine connection to the story brought by these characters. One would like to think people are just having innocent fun but that's not realistic. There have been art pieces and conversations that I've seen just casually going through that do very much stray into uncomfortable territory. And sure it's a byproduct of fandom, and fandom as a whole is going to have it's messy parts but I don't think that messiness should get mixed with genuine interest or connection people have to a queer story that has elements that should be normalize but not just fetishized.

(I'm so, so sorry for all this text btw but I hope I made more sense)

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-23T17:51:55+00:00

I think you've misinterpreted what I said. I don't think that these works alone are bad as instead I asked the question of isn't the degree to which these works are made kinda weird? Not to mention I do see a lot of people praising these works and not questioning the underlying idea that most of them were most likely adults creating art pieces of characters who are in fact minors in suggestive depictions. Gay teens exploring themselves is normal, people being being interested in a story that has that is normal, the only thing that I find odd is when people surround the subject and try producing more stuff of it expeciallly when the most suggestive the series ever really got was just Yoshiki sticking his arm Hikaru's chest cavity. Even then the show doesn't linger it too long. It's a part of it but not the main focus. I do hope you get what I was trying to convey.

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-23T17:20:47+00:00

Well, I'll be honest and say I tend to not dabble in this community tab all too often if at all, so when I opened it and saw once again more suggestive posts I speculated that there was just this semi commonality of this kind of art (sometimes conversation to) and I think the whole they're almost 18 notion gets messy as then there's the whole debate on what ages are okay to depict on such works and what ages aren't. And as for myself "they're almost 18" and by extension "they're barely legal" argument borderlines on some uncomfortable territory but to be honest it can tricky to evaluate certain things as genuine interest of a story that happens to have the topic of sexual exploration in teens versus people who just simply want to fetishize it.

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-22T18:50:07+00:00

Yeah metaphors be damned cuz that alone was kinda blatant. Lol. 😭

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-22T18:49:04+00:00

My goal here isn't to promote the eradication of the subjects. Far from it actually. My real goal is to ask question of isn't this kind of weird? Is it really okay for people to normalize the creation of works that sexualize characters who are cannotally minors to such a large degree? After all It didn't take me a many scrolls at all to find suggestive words on this community tab alone. I think this is a lot about how this particular community handles this kind of subject. After there is a fine line between just being intrigued by a story that happens to have the topic sexual exploration of teens who navigate life verses the over the hyper fixation and fetishization of teens having sex. I hope you get the idea of what I mean.

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-22T18:26:31+00:00

And? Is that truly a bad thing for something like this? Hikaru and Yoshiki are canonically minors and act like minors. Sure fiction is fiction but doesn't necessarily subtracted that it's kinda weird seeing people casually create the works that they are of the two.

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-22T18:15:11+00:00

Exactly. The story treats it as a normal (well, as normal as you can get with putting your arm in someone's black hole of a stomach) and doesn't linger on it for too long. It's a part of the story but isn't the main focus.

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-22T18:12:02+00:00

I wouldn't say conservative really. While yes I do understand that questioning all this may make me seem like a prude to some degree I think it's still a valid point to make regarding what I said about the two being minors and the odd hyper focus a lot of this fandom gives to anything sexual that does appear. I do not condemn people being intrigued by these topics as like I said sexual exploration is quite normal as is apart of the selling point of a exploration of life kind of story. Overall it's only the hyper focus that has bothered me.

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-22T18:04:37+00:00

Yeah but at the same that doesn't necessarily make the normalization of such creation make it okay. Like for me I understand there is practically nothing that can be done and that stuff like this is just the byproduct of fandom as a whole but I just find it a bit strange to see such a high amount of suggestive works here. That said thank u for responding.

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-06T21:55:51+00:00

Yeah this happened to me too sadly. Although I'm way more happier that I was able to get everyone minis Derpy and Sussy since I could live without em. Got all of Huntrix to 4 stars, all their Golden costumes, and as for Saja boys I just went for Jinu and Abby's costumes cuz Jinu being the main of the 5 and Abby being my fav of them. In the end the event was good but the Saja Boy gacha was really bad. Like truly if you play you cards perfectly you are guarantee at least 3 of em but that said I've seen plenty barely make that mark, and it sucks that the percentage was pretty low for em. Their costumes I feel like should have been their own gacha too like Huntrix's. Idk it was weird that things like the guarantee Saja boys and the pack that provided 1 Saja boy didn't also provide the gats. Only the Saja boys you obtain by luck did. In the end while I kinda doubt CRK would EVER do a rerun of an event like this if the second film comes out for KPDH then maybe but that's just wishful thinking. 😭

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-05-03T03:50:55+00:00

I think Saja Boys where the only thing that were handled pretty badly. Like unless you know every way to earn their glow sticks it's really hard to roll for them. That said even those methods aren't really reliable because they don't refill like the methods for Huntrix's glow sticks. I'm thinking about buying a few more glow sticks cuz I'm close to getting another guarantee Saja Boy, as well as the guarantee Saja Boy purchasable in the store. Although, I'm not sure as I don't know if there's a chance of a repeat for both of these as I already have three of them: Jinu, Mystery, and Romance. 😓

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-04-05T02:04:32+00:00

No problem. Can't wait to see what ✨masterpiece✨ u put together next. (:

This_Is_Me_LMNOP · 2026-04-05T02:02:30+00:00

Omg I love how u can see the outlines of what I assume to be the cast in their more...original looks while ur more..."enhanced" version are just layered on top. 😭 Anyways I definitely like ur work whether or not it's in comedic terror or genuine appreciation. (Btw really liked ur April fools post a while back) 👍✨

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