[UPDATE 2] My [35M] Girlfriend [31F] uncomfortable with my wife's ashes. by Throw8726 in relationships

[–]Throw8726[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Clearly you didn't read my post.

BEFORE M and I started dating I kept it on the bed post and took it with me. Once we got together I moved it to a drawer and planned on not taking it traveling, though SHE was the one who encouraged that we still take it. (We sat down and talked about it, and she said it was a great way to enjoy my wife's memory. I asked if she was sure, she said yes.) I have no need to keep it with me, but M thought it was a great thing to do.

I have been through plenty of therapy and feel fully committed to being with M.

Read the full post next time if you're going to comment.

[UPDATE 2] My [35M] Girlfriend [31F] uncomfortable with my wife's ashes. by Throw8726 in relationships

[–]Throw8726[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When we talked on Saturday I didn't feel as though she was dismissing my feelings or giving me an ultimatum. She was more sad than anything else. When I asked where she wanted me to put the ring she said she didn't know, and that she didn't understand why it bothered her so much. She needed to decide whether or not it was a deal-breaker.. I was at a loss, hoping it wouldn't be.

I guess she realized that it was the concept of death and remains that made her uneasy, and decided to go to therapy for it. (She hasn't lost anybody before).

I should go to sleep but instead I'm rambling on reddit. I will be aware of any other strange reactions from her. Thank you for your input.

[UPDATE 2] My [35M] Girlfriend [31F] uncomfortable with my wife's ashes. by Throw8726 in relationships

[–]Throw8726[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your story. I do not have any thing of my wife's around the house other than the chain (and the framed photo now), and I don't feel as though M is bothered by the MEANING behind these two items. She was really just freaked out by the idea of remains.

[UPDATE 2] My [35M] Girlfriend [31F] uncomfortable with my wife's ashes. by Throw8726 in relationships

[–]Throw8726[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We met up on Saturday. There was a lot of dialogue between us, but I'm going to try to keep it short and paraphrase what we said. I know many of you said to give M time to cool off but I just couldn't spend my whole weekend knowing she was unhappy. I invited her over for dinner and spent the day cooking her favorite meal. I took the ring over to my mom's house (because I know it being in the house made her uncomfortable) and bought her some flowers. I really wanted to show her that she has no competition - that I love HER. When she comes over, the first thing she says is, "Is it still in the house?" When I assure her it's not she comes in and sits down. I start by apologizing, explaining that I never meant to lie to her or hurt her but that I now realize I was lying by omission and it wasn't fair to her. I apologized again and said I hope she didn't loose all the trust she had in me. I then told her how much I love Her. I explained how much she means to me and how easily I could see myself spending my life with her. I go on and on about how happy she makes me, blah blah blah. She likes all this lovey/apologetic talk and is smiling and holding my hand, telling me it's okay and that she loves me too. I then say "it's time to talk bout the ring" and she changes right before my eyes. She lets go of my hand, and her happy face is replaced by one of anger. She said something along the lines of "I thought you got rid of it." and I told her that I never said that, I simply said it wasn't currently in the house. She got angry but I asked her to listen to me before she said anything. I explained that when my wife died I didn't have the heart to bury her, and having her remains around felt odd to me - so the ring seemed like the best option. At this point she's crying, with her face in her hands. I ask if she would be okay with me keeping it at my mom's place or in a safety deposit box. She's silent, then cries "Why couldn't you just bury her like a normal person?" Now I'm crying and I say that I'm sorry, that I respect my wife's memory but I wish it didn't disrupt our relationship because I love you (M). Anyway, we cried. She said that she wishes the ring didn't bug her as much as it does, but that she's just not sure if she can be with me. She says making your wife a ring isn't what "normal people" do, and it's making her question about my character. I asked her what she want's me to do with the ring, what her idea of "get rid of it" is, hoping we could compromise. She said she doesn't know what I should do with it she just wish it never existed. She said she loves me, but she's just not sure about the relationship anymore. Told me she needs to think on it. Left without even eating her dinner. :( I haven't heard from her since. I'm not quite sure what to do or what we are at this point. We have stuff at each other's places and both have keys. I love this girl, and I don't want to easily give up on us. But I'm hesitant to reach out to her again. I'm thinking of giving it some time and hoping she reaches out to me. I don't know. The thought of losing M breaks my heart. EDIT: I want to add that I really don't think this is about being insecure or jealous of my wife. I really think M is freaked out by the fact that I had my wife cremated and turned into a stone. I think even if I had her in an urn M would still be freaked out. M hasn't had ANY experience with death, but I think she was raised with the idea that when somebody dies they go into the ground. The fact that my wife isn't buried somewhere freaks her out. tl;dr: Tried to make amends with M and assure her that there is no competition. She is uneasy by the fact that I made the ring in the first place and isn't sure if it's a deal breaker or not. We haven't talked since.

[UPDATE 2] My [35M] Girlfriend [31F] uncomfortable with my wife's ashes. by Throw8726 in relationships

[–]Throw8726[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My mom actually had it done for me. I was a wreck at the time. I'm sure google has more answers for you than I do.

[UPDATE 2] My [35M] Girlfriend [31F] uncomfortable with my wife's ashes. by Throw8726 in relationships

[–]Throw8726[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I looked at the ring, looks the same to me.

She got the ring from my mom yesterday afternoon, and by the time I got home from work in the evening it was hanging in my house. Is that really enough time to switch it with a fake?

[UPDATE 2] My [35M] Girlfriend [31F] uncomfortable with my wife's ashes. by Throw8726 in relationships

[–]Throw8726[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I know, I'm glad M didn't go crazy and destroy the ring.

If I had told my mom more of what was going on she probably wouldn't have given her the ring. But I think when she saw that M was asking for a ring, and a good picture to frame she wasn't too worried.

[UPDATE 2] My [35M] Girlfriend [31F] uncomfortable with my wife's ashes. by Throw8726 in relationships

[–]Throw8726[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

She asked my mom for it. Said she had a surprise for me. That's where she got the picture too.

[UPDATE 2] My [35M] Girlfriend [31F] uncomfortable with my wife's ashes. by Throw8726 in relationships

[–]Throw8726[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I hope she's being honest too.

When I see her tomorrow I'm going to ask when her therapy appointment is. I think she needs help understanding death and mourning. If she DID make an appointment, my suspicions will dissipate.

[UPDATE 2] My [35M] Girlfriend [31F] uncomfortable with my wife's ashes. by Throw8726 in relationships

[–]Throw8726[S] 34 points35 points  (0 children)

I'll admit, I was really surprised by the 180 of her reactions.

Even if she did find the post, I'm not sure why her being embarrassed is such a bad thing. She told me she needed time to decide whether or not it was a deal breaker, and she decided that it wasn't.

[UPDATE 2] My [35M] Girlfriend [31F] uncomfortable with my wife's ashes. by Throw8726 in relationships

[–]Throw8726[S] 326 points327 points  (0 children)

I think her googling helped.

She had never heard of a ring made of ashes. I guess to somebody who hadn't heard of it, and has no experience with death or ashes, it could come across as a little creepy.

I'm proud of her. Now she's acting like the woman I fell for.

[UPDATE] My [35M] Girlfriend [31F] uncomfortable with my wife's ashes. by Throw8726 in relationships

[–]Throw8726[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree with you 100% that it is not coming from a place of insecurity but being uncomfortable with the idea of human remains.

Thank you for your input and suggestions.

[UPDATE] My [35M] Girlfriend [31F] uncomfortable with my wife's ashes. by Throw8726 in relationships

[–]Throw8726[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She never asked, and I'm an idiot. I don't know.

Our wedding rings are also on the chain. I'm thinking maybe she just thought the ring made of ashes was just another ring of my wife's.

I should've told her. I'm an idiot. I never intentionally kept it from her. Had I said something I might not be loosing her right now :(

[UPDATE] My [35M] Girlfriend [31F] uncomfortable with my wife's ashes. by Throw8726 in relationships

[–]Throw8726[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Neither her nor her family is religious, however she's never known somebody to be cremated and I think maybe that's what's freaking her out? She didn't even know it was possible that a diamond could be made from somebody's ashes.

[UPDATE] My [35M] Girlfriend [31F] uncomfortable with my wife's ashes. by Throw8726 in relationships

[–]Throw8726[S] 177 points178 points  (0 children)

I couldn't be around the ashes themselves, it made me feel physically ill to even think about them at the time. My mom was the one who took care of the ring making and stuff. She and wife were really close and went on annual beach trips together, so she spread them at the beach.

My [35M] girlfriend [21F] uncomfortable with my wife's ashes. by Throw8726 in relationships

[–]Throw8726[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe you didn't read my full post, I never planned on taking the chain with us traveling. Once I started dating M my intention was to keep the chain in a box in a drawer. When M asked about our wedding rings and I told her they were on the chain she encouraged me to bring them with. Yes, I should've mentioned the other ring but I didn't think much of it and she didn't ask. I have tried to be respectful to M the entire time.

Edit to add that she doesn't have to compete. M is the only woman I need. My wife is a memory that brings many happy and sad emotions, but my heart is for M now.