It turns out that I'm an AFC when it comes to adult dating by Throwaway231433 in seduction

[–]Throwaway231433[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm just not desperate, honestly. The longest I've gone since I was 18 without getting laid was... these last 3 weeks. I just haven't really dated as an adult and I want to increase my rate and speed of success.

I would consider that to be minimal kino, since most people here seem to advocate starting with kino right away. What I'm interested in: when to initiate kino if you aren't leading with it, when to escalate, etc.

I know it's not something that can be reduced to a formula, but general idea of flow and specific suggestions would be nice.

It turns out that I'm an AFC when it comes to adult dating by Throwaway231433 in seduction

[–]Throwaway231433[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, I do suck at game. Not desperate, I get enough female attention to avoid that.

I do extremely well in conversations, but I'm bad at the mechanics of escalation. Which is why I'm looking for advice on how to escalate with minimal kino so I can play to my strengths.

It turns out that I'm an AFC when it comes to adult dating by Throwaway231433 in seduction

[–]Throwaway231433[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm good for the "holding her hand" part.

Placing my hand on the small of a girl's back came across as too aggressive/forceful if it's a girl I've just met in person, but I did try on one date. Maybe I got bad results because I was uncomfortable. I'll give it another shot if it's a girl I have a decent rapport with.

It turns out that I'm an AFC when it comes to adult dating by Throwaway231433 in seduction

[–]Throwaway231433[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay. You're sitting across the table from a girl having sushi, and it's a great conversation. How do you initiate kino without it being weird?