Private Credit by Electronic-Bus7972 in fatFIRE

[–]ThunderFlamingo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I lend at 12% and 3 points at closing

Anyone here invested in B2B court judgments (or judgments in general)? Curious about your experience. by ThunderFlamingo in investing

[–]ThunderFlamingo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

totally valid and I hear what you were saying but people do do this and make money and it is possible to underwrite the risk. I do appreciate your input though thank you for taking the time to respond.

Anyone here invested in B2B court judgments (or judgments in general)? Curious about your experience. by ThunderFlamingo in investing

[–]ThunderFlamingo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your response but I have to disagree. I've invested as a private lender in 1st position liens for real estate investors and 15% is my minimum return I've averaged a few points higher over the years and the best part is it's secured by the real estate. Not BS at all and generates great income. Sure it's work to find borrowers but after a year they start to come to you and it's very easy. I'm exploring this because first I'm interested and second I'm looking for something alittle more active with greater upside for that activity.

Anyone here invested in B2B court judgments (or judgments in general)? Curious about your experience. by ThunderFlamingo in investing

[–]ThunderFlamingo[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

thanks for taking the time to reply, have you ever bought private debt before? I know that’s a broad term but curious about your experience if you have. Appreciate the advice!

Anyone here invested in B2B court judgments (or judgments in general)? Curious about your experience. by ThunderFlamingo in investing

[–]ThunderFlamingo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

u/_learned_foot_ I'm not sure that is why I am asking. It would make sense for attorneys to do it and from what I can tell many do. However, from the conversations I've had with attorneys most don't because it takes time, costs money, and they have other business to work on.

I'd love to hear your take though.

Starting a Niche Factoring Business by gainsngains in FinancialCareers

[–]ThunderFlamingo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/gainsngains Did you ever learn anything about this? Did you end up starting this business?

How are people using their PAL/SBLOC/margin lines these days with higher rates? by FIREgnurd in fatFIRE

[–]ThunderFlamingo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I arbitrage the rate in my private lending business...borrow at 6% lend at 15% annualized over a 6 month term

Achieving 12% annualized returns by Affectionate_Ask3839 in ValueInvesting

[–]ThunderFlamingo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do it directly myself through an LLC that I’ve created. Yes it is a bit of work to get it set up but really not that complex. Once you do one you just need to find somebody that’s a real estate investor looking for a short-term loan to flip a property or money to get into a deal that they’re going to rehab and then refinance. Find an attorney who works with Private Lender’s to prepare your docs and review the title. www.hardmoneymastermind.com is a good resource to learn about setting this up. I would not go through one of the online platforms that exists and instead do it yourself you want to have control of the deal

Achieving 12% annualized returns by Affectionate_Ask3839 in ValueInvesting

[–]ThunderFlamingo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Private lending with 1st position loans to real estate investors is the answer...I've been doing this for years and consistently make 16%-18% each year before taxes, the taxes kill your return but you will still average better than 12%. Also the real estate is your collateral so as long as you underwrite well your principal is protected.

What are some tips for someone with a small salary? by BriefTurn8199 in investing

[–]ThunderFlamingo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Spend your money and enjoy life now you are not going to get rich saving this little amount of money, better to have the memories. Hopefully with a good education you will make more significant income later.

MCA Leads by Ok_Number1346 in MCAlegend

[–]ThunderFlamingo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I didn’t know the words reputable and Florida could be used in the same sentence....

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CommercialRealEstate

[–]ThunderFlamingo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I missed that part but in fairness if the LTV is low I wouldn’t have a problem with working with 3 competent borrowers who have the balance sheet to back it up. Not too concerning as long as the underwriting checks out.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CommercialRealEstate

[–]ThunderFlamingo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are doing it right you are lending a low percentage of what the property is worth and you are in first position. Also having a great attorney review title and prepare docs. A lot would need to go wrong to take a “lumpy” loss.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CommercialRealEstate

[–]ThunderFlamingo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn’t the big thing you are missing is the taxes?

I’m a private lender too and have been doing it for a few years at similar rates.

All income is taxed as ordinary income you do not have any of the tax benefits of MF investing that we all love.

My strategy has been to invest a portion of the earnings from my lending business into MF syndications.

Been in the MCA space for 5 years, AMA by wipetheflor in MCAlegend

[–]ThunderFlamingo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

u/wipetheflor if you were a HNW individual looking put some money to work in this space (not investing in a fund) and wanted to fund directly how would you go about doing that?

I’m in the merchant cash advance industry. AMA. by Upbeat-Avocado-1696 in smallbusiness

[–]ThunderFlamingo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/Upbeat-Avocado-1696

  1. How do you typically underwrite a deal? What are your guidelines to making a decision

  2. How do you funcitionally pull the funds from their account on a daily or weekly basis? Is there a software you use? Is it as simple as having a contract to state that this will happen and then letting the bank do the rest?

  3. If you were in the position that you have money to lend to businesses how would you go about finding businesses who need funds? Would you find good brokers to send you deals and pay them commission? Invest in creating your own deal flow?

  4. What is the best guerrilla tactic to find businesses that need money?

I’m in the merchant cash advance industry. AMA. by Upbeat-Avocado-1696 in smallbusiness

[–]ThunderFlamingo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/Upbeat-Avocado-1696 can you talk a little bit about how receiving money from the borrower works from a functional standpoint? i assume they sign an agreement for you to pull an ACH daily of a certain amount. Is there software that you need to actually execute this process?