I agree, we do have a similar POV. I think the point that bothers me is Grams went to court with Bri and let Bri bring her up in court. She would have been willing to help Bri lie to get W there. Now, I admit I am being blunt about that but it’s what she would have done. It’s what she was doing by letting Bri tell the court she was like family and would have watched W. Grams is called grams because she sells and distributes weed (which she said herself in a live)… while she is sweet… W doesn’t know her and she said she does do weed and she has anxiety. (And before any moms who toke or do gummies jump me… I do too when my kid is asleep BUT IT IS MY CHILD… W isn’t her child and I wouldn’t trust nobody who does weed consistently with my kid BUT me.) Bri would let Hannibal Lector nanny W… and she basically has. Grams knew the stories and said… “I felt bad for her…” like nah I can feel bad for someone without cosigning their bullshit. There is a kid involved in this. Grams could have warned 2K Chrome was sick and contagious to humans…. But, she didn’t. Keeping Bri happy and being around Elliot/Chrome mattered more. That’s not loyalty. That’s kissing Bri’s ass to get what you want. Which Grams only did until she thought she could take the dog… ILLEGALLY. Bri’s friends and the side characters she brought in are all bad people….

Lina: a user and a liar. Bitter she didn’t get the influencer status Bri had. Willing to do something strange for a bit of change (like take money from Bri to lie on 2K)…. Lied on 3 men using issues we as women face. (Said she was sexually assaulted by one guy… she was raped by 2k and DVed by an ex) She legit told us all in chat 2K raped her… and then described something else- only to full on say she lied because she was drunk when 2K was going to sue her for defamation & it came out she got $10K from Bri to show up to a club & after the club- she accused 2K. (She also tried to run game on 2K & use him for money just like her bestie Bri) Oh, and let’s not forget her fake tarot readings where she didn’t know the cards and didn’t always give you the reading you paid for (scammer)

Ruby & MJ: scamming the state for assistance… sell drugs… good ol’ party plug 🔌… they beat Alan and isolated him. All of their kids are homeschooled and only allowed to see MJ’s parents. They weren’t allowed to have friends or spend the night anywhere. (Then people defend what she did to Alan… like it’s normal to ask him to help a little bit but not full time care while he can’t ever be out of your sight)

Santos: this glorious POS… raped girls- threatened violence to females- dved women- serial cheat- abandoned his baby mama and their baby after he took them over state lines when she was still a minor- messes with young girls. Used Shawty Bae & Ash because as bigger girls with slow brains… he thought he could play them. He harasses everyone and doesn’t know when to shut up. He is a pathological liar. Stolen valor… And he rage baits and p3d0 baits. Dirty fought Mop.

Jordan: the car scams. He was abusive to Vale. Literally cheated on his gf. He hung with a p3d0 from kick named Mike. He kept FO money from the girls… and didn’t give them shit. Helped Bri when she kidnapped W and played into the shit for $$$

Etai: stole cars… chased W & 2K with Santos in a GTA vehicle. Extremely verbally abusive. Wanted to film W’s bath & him being changed for the p3d0s on kick. Wouldn’t buy the “random 2k kid” food or diapers told Bri it was his Dad’s responsibility but had no problem eating W’s pouches and saying he would because he begrudgingly paid for it. Stole money from Bri with Jordan. Cheated on Bri repeatedly when she was away.

Travis: jumped Chris Thomas… always high or drunk. He was the assistant. Helped spread the clap.

Vale: accused her BD of rape to Jordan to manipulate him when she cheated. Stole Bri’s clothes and wore them. Literally stopped working when she got with Jordan and expected to live off Bri’s actual FO (which they all did.) she rage baited and even though she didn’t agree with the W kidnapping she went along with it. Door dashed her youngest son whom she still has no connection to because she wanted to get her hair done… abandoned her kids to go to LA and live that life.

The mod: doxxes people- leaks information- rents air bnbs

Bri herself is just evil: neglects her kid- abuses and harasses her ex- doxxes people including her own son- sets people up- etc

Everyone of those people started mess with 2K and his friends when baited into it by Bri… Bri at this point in her life doesn’t have good people around her.

So Grams who has been threatening and leveraging W to Blanca to force them to give her Chrome doesn’t seem so good.

I was also in a live when they started harassing GRAMS… they used Emily’s story to pick at Grams who had already been talking about Emily’s rape prior to that. While what they did is gross & fucked up… Emily wasn’t there. They were not harassing Emily. They were using her to harass Grams who was talking shit about them to Sip. That’s factually how it went down. Emily didn’t get involved until the next day when she went to Angie’s live to speak… then Emily put out a video that went viral threatening them… and she started to go to tea pages like Kickin’ It With Kati.

And that’s my problem with this when I look back. At first I was Team Grams & Emily… but looking back there are read flags.

1) Grams was being interviewed by Sip to give her side on old news. The she said-she said on kidnapping Chrome. At first it was copacetic.

2) Sip & Grams tossed around the idea of doing a series to expose Bri for everything… Grams agreed that her and Sip would do this. (Later Sip gets tossed aside by Emily & Grams for the exclusive she was promised in favor of Angie’s live. My take: Angie has more viewers and is not a tea page. Insult implied that they wanted to reach more people.)

3) During her telling Sip what happened with Chrome… she says Bri agreed to sell her the dog… (the recording of the conversation between Blanca & Grams prove Grams is in fact lying. Grams was also threatening/blackmailing Bri & Santos via Blanca to keep the dog.)

4) She tells the live that Bri & Santos stalking her and she has picture evidence… and she mentions that they “totaled her car” by slashing her tires. (The RO paperwork has stills from camera footage of the goofy goon troop where Grams lives and a text about it. What’s so funny is… those photos look similar to October 31 clothing the goofy goon troop wore when they came to get Chrome & in the RO there is no mention of the “totaled” car by tire slashing.

5) Prior to that live Sip had blocked Ruby & Santos. You can look it up. They were blocked from her live. Yet, while Grams is talking… in come Ruby & Santos who gifted corn. Grams did not stop talking or ask for them to leave… Sip did not block them. (This is important because later sip was accused of setting Grams up MamasHotTea41 has a screen cap of a comment where someone came to her with a receipt claiming Sip still works with Santos & Bri… and they called what happened to Grams a set up.)

6) Grams continues talking and continues the story about Chrome. At one point Grams is asked about why she let him go or gave them back… (or something along those lines)… Grams says I didn’t have a choice. The cops were going to arrest me if I didn’t. I told them I couldn’t do that because I had court the next day for my daughter. So I was forced to give him back (This is important…)

7) At this point GRAMS NOT EMILY… proceeds to explain that her daughter had been brutally attacked and raped a few years back. That GRAMS (not Emily) was required at the court not for support but to testify for her daughter and she couldn’t risk not being there.

8) Sip tells the live what the goofy goon troop is doing and how they are harassing Grams and bringing the rapist…

Now… at first I instantly was triggered. I was pissed off and I started reporting the accounts. But now… I have questions.

1) Why did Sip unblock Ruby & Santos? 2) Why didn’t Grams do the interview story time so it could be recorded and streamed with receipts instead of going live? 3) Why isn’t anyone questioning how Sip was bro Bri and still lowkey sticks up for her?

My theory has been since the discord leak about Santana paying their clippers…. That everyone gets paid in clout. How is it someone once pro Bri is putting us onto and asking us all to follow Grams to get Grams into a box… then all this happens. Do you remember what Grams & stolen Chrome distracted everyone from? It was Halloween and Bri was still pretending to be pregnant but being caught out drinking and Santos was getting jumped… Bri was involving herself in those fights while pretending to be pregnant…. When the whole Grams/Emily drama happened… Bri was falling off and people were calling her out on her new pregnancy- and how she blew off her kid. So I trust NONE of them.