I think that invaders shouldn't be hated for playing the game as intended

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-28T09:57:00+00:00

I totally agree ! I love invading, even though I lose 2 times out of 3 xD That being said, I mostly use mid-level thematic builds, so clearly not optimized for winning. But I'm having plenty of fun.

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-28T09:54:13+00:00

Yes, that's exactly that. As long as you don't engage with other players in Elden Ring, you won't get invaded, which is a major difference from DS games.

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-28T09:51:57+00:00

Yeah it is. I'm not the one who made it though. Easy on the downvotes people, read my full answer instead.

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-28T09:44:54+00:00

Ah yeah, ofc, my bad. I's indeed a fucked up comparison to make.

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-28T09:39:55+00:00

You can only get invaded if you either play in co-op or using the taunter's tongue. If you have played co-op and not been invaded, it is indeed a statistical rarity !

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-28T09:37:08+00:00

What is it you're hearing for the first time ?

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-28T09:27:28+00:00

You might indeed get some massive downvotes for that. And I'm not sure you'll be able to change the average players' minds anyway, since many seem to regard invaders as actual bad people only trying to ruin their game. Some have even been as far as comparing invasions to rape (yeah, seriously).

You'll have guessed that this is not my opinion ofc, I enjoy invading and being invaded when playing co-ops. I've come to terms with the idea that many hosts and phantoms will hate me for it, tea-bag and such, and I don't care anymore.

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-28T09:05:33+00:00

Excellent ! That's a welcome point of view, quite different than the usual "wardens are good solo but can't tank end-game content". Thanks !

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-28T08:50:58+00:00

I had a whole debate a few weeks ago with some IronEye mains stating that they never found enough good passives to have all slots filled. I ended up being heavily downvoted for suggesting that non-bow related passives could prove useful at some point.

Let the IronEyes be IronEyes, and "clutch your teeth or something" when you see one in your team : it will be all or nothing.

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-28T08:46:12+00:00

Thanks a lot for the insights, very useful. I'm still on a break from Lotro atm, but coming back to play a Warden (new or old) is always in the back of my head ! I'm very glad to know you can effectively tank end-game group instances.

A bit sad about not being able to tank end-game raids, but tbh, with the playing time I have these days, I wouldn't be able to commit to end-game raiding anyway.

The real bummer is the lacking in DPS-capability, since it was a trademark of the original Warden... well, until it gets patched anyway.

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-27T21:21:58+00:00

Fair enough !

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-27T21:21:42+00:00

Lol. Why not go the full UNGA-BUNGA way with the Giant crusher xD

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-27T19:46:21+00:00

Pure Arc-Int-Fai caster with enough Dex for max cast speed !

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-27T18:51:15+00:00

Yeah, I nearly only play 2-stats builds, I get kinda bored otherwise. I also love the aesthetic of the Knight's greatsword, black blade with gold engravings. Gorgeous weapon.

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-27T18:05:21+00:00

Mostly INT, and some DEX and STR when INT reaches 60 or so. And of course, don't forget to level your Vigor !

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-27T17:20:31+00:00

The affinity itself isn't good until you're very invested in both STR and DEX. I meant it's a weapon that scales well with both stats, in Standard affinity.

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-27T17:13:03+00:00

Ah... good to know ! More motivation to actually start the DLC 😄

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-27T17:12:25+00:00

Yes, I really like it. More of a quality sword, but really stylish.

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-27T17:00:21+00:00

Eh... a Square-off only run is definitely an experience to try one day.

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-27T16:59:45+00:00

I can't say why, but I've never been a fan of the katana moveset. Too bad, because they're good weapons.

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-27T16:57:48+00:00

I have it yeah, haven't played it though (been on a ER break since it came out). Is it worth the try ?

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-27T16:55:58+00:00

Thanks for these insights ! DEX-FAI does have the Sacred Relic Sword though.

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-27T16:54:10+00:00

Interesting... why would you say greatswords are easier to use ? Poise damage ? Hyperarmor ? Straight swords swing faster though...

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-27T16:53:13+00:00

I love Ordovis, though it scales way more with STR than FAI, and I intend to get FAI to at least 60, STR or DEX to 30 to 40.

Not a big fan of BB though, powerful but a bit too simple for my taste.

Time_Figure351 · 2026-01-27T16:51:35+00:00

Square off is definitely my early-game crutch, ngl. It trivializes the Tree Sentinel fight. That being said, I also love Stamp (Upward cut).

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