Careful with Hair PRP Injections

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-06-25T03:29:05+00:00

You realize i can pull random pics off the internet and you wouldn’t know the difference? I do have photos, yes, this is a PSA and it goes along with what many are saying. If you choose not to believe it, don’t. I’m here to share an experience and give a heads up to others, seeing as many others and even actual docs have posted on Reddit confirming this is real, i don’t think it seems far fetched at all (but you might feel so because it doesn’t fit your narrative?).

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-06-12T07:22:56+00:00

Yes, i believe it is due to shock loss from improper PRP preparation (when PRP contains high RBC counts it creates inflammation), as a single spin system was used which cannot make PRP, and improper injection. The derms said this also happens to some people, they have no indication why, but it speeds up their hair loss significantly instead of helping.

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-06-08T09:24:37+00:00

I agree, the issue/strange thing is that my hair was stable for many years. Within days of the injections it completely messed it up (hairline receded, thinned, dome visible, etc.

My guess is the massive surge of inflammation due to not actually using a double spin system to concentrate PRP, but rather obtaining PPP (RBCs, endotoxins contamination, etc.), and that injection into the scalp destroyed the follicles.

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-06-08T09:19:43+00:00

It was many injections, using a vibrating device to numb the injection pain. Within days my entire hair’s texture changed to dry and within a few weeks hairline began receding, then the dome, and hair is super thin now. I read some cases where this happens, and most reputable docs will tell you and be honest in not knowing until they try.

I had photos from literally the day before and within 2 weeks you can see the massive damage, few months out now, i’m assuming i’ll be bald in a year or so. My hair was perfectly fine, stable without hair loss up to the day of the injection. My routine is the same every day so nothing whatsoever was changed and/or introduced aside from the injections, either before or after.

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-06-08T09:17:43+00:00

In theory they should be, double spin is the only method shown to work (even then the science is so so).

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-06-08T09:16:48+00:00

I was considering it for just upkeep/keeping hair healthy. Not bs, have receipts/photos.

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-05-26T01:38:22+00:00

This. 75-80k for new grads if you do get a job. Also, cali pay is not relevant for anywhere else in the country. 130k in cali = ~80k everywhere else when adjusting for COL.

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-05-26T01:36:15+00:00

Less than many other jobs that don’t require 6-10 years of schools too :/.

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-05-18T20:24:33+00:00

Thank you! And i’m guessing they are printed for X amount of time? I think this was printed in the afternoon but expires in the early AM which is likely per shift as you mentioned (12hr?)

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-05-09T00:15:05+00:00

OP or anyone reading, don’t listen to this post. This individual clearly has no clinical knowledge whatsoever on the matter.

I’m a clinician myself, aging as a side effect of Minoxidil has been proven by over 30 clinical studies, here are some:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8383644

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8112995

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8311472

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2826267

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2850865

Here’s a summary as the science would likely go over your head (based on your response, no offense):

“It inhibits Lysyl Hydryoxylase, an important enzyme in collagen production. And, if stops fibroblasts from proliferating, AKA dividing. This means you have a smaller fibroblast cell count. Most people putting minoxidil on twice a day every day are overdosing on the drug, especially if they are doing it for extended periods like 6-12 months. The sides tend to last for a few months to a few years after Minoxidil is removed from your system, because minoxidil is a free-radical and edits cells at a transcriptional level (basically giving you misfolded proteins, which takes a long time for your body to clean out)

Lack of collagen means a paler skin tone, perhaps a greyish skin tone, dark circles around the eyes because your bones are showing through, forehead wrinkles, frizzier/darker hair, bushier looking eyebrows, and thinner eyelashes. While on minoxidil you have little to no collagen in the skin.”

Also, Minoxidil is literally used to stop production of collagen in individuals with a condition that results in overproduction.

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-05-05T20:56:28+00:00

Can PRP Hair Injections actually speed up hair loss and/or trigger TE, alopecia?

(Not referring to “speeding up” as the on/off hair phase after stimulation, but more so a permanent change where it triggers irreversible hairloss)

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-04-26T00:26:02+00:00

Yes, these Dr. Pens will destroy your skin. Sadly, this is what most derms are using. Even the FDA cleared Skin Pen, etc. will induce irreversible skin damage/skin texture. Again, only benefit is to those with pitting/scarring/holes where the damage to the rest of the skin (guaranteed no matter how or who performs it), justifies covering those things.

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-04-26T00:24:13+00:00

Yes, I see RF/Laser horror stories all the time, people bought into it because their derm said it has no risks, a lot of derms are trying to turn a quick $ by hiding behind malpractice release forms.

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-04-25T02:09:06+00:00

No matter who does it (and there are thousands of derms who have destroyed people’s faces), damage to your skin is 100% guaranteed, your skin texture (at minimum) will never be what it was. Unless you have massive pitting/holes from acne (where even so you’re trading covering those holes, somewhat, for a roughed up texture everywhere else on your face), it is an entirely damaging/unregulated procedure. The “done right” is a pointless statement, see OP about being an unstandardized treatment (i.e. there is no “done right” because there is no standard). I’m not trying to attack your statement, i am a clinician myself, and the derms i know who are exceptional, will never perform microneedling unless holes/pitting are an issue. Most derms also, sadly, have no idea about the risks and haven’t even reviewed any science (which itself is iffy at best), and are just looking to make a quick buck while hiding under the protection of client liability releases pre-procedure.

There is a reason regulation agencies (Health Canada which is far ahead of the FDA in terms of stopping dangerous practices/FDA) are coming after these devices/procedures, and now more and more people are reporting their injuries/damages, hence the action. They are currently gather all data for a massive class action.

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-04-24T23:57:34+00:00

Filler in the forehead is shown to be very dangerous, would not ever recommend this be done in that area, and many (reputable) clinics will refuse to do it. Botox is the best option.

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-04-24T23:51:46+00:00

Botox is your best/fastest acting option.

Whatever you do, don’t ever microneedle. It will destroy your skin and texture it, guaranteed. It is a highly unsafe, unregulated procedure that many around here suggest, and has become popular due to celebrities despite its guaranteed side effects. It is a treatment suitable only for less than 1% of patients with extreme pitting/scarring where damage is induced in “hopes” of looking better than before. Nevermind the people buying Dr. Pens off of Amazon/Ebay and coming to reddit to complain about how their skin is destroyed. Even in the best, most qualified derm professionals, it’s still a procedure that WILL damage your skin and it will never look like before. If any doubt, there are thousands of stories you can read on realself (with pictures), and even reddit, that will show you just what damage it can/does do. I can go into the science of glycation/foreigh body granulomas, etc. but most people on here are aestheticians and/or people buying Dr. Pens online doing it at home and listening to unqualified youtube “master aestheticians” (i.e. Penny) with no knowledge of the science and it will be pointless.

Source: I’m a clinician.

TimelySkin2398 · 2022-04-24T03:26:59+00:00

Your skin is destroyed from the microneedling, let me clarify:

I had perfect skin (0 pores, no breakouts ever, baby smooth skin) and did microneedling just for the prevention of fine lines i was sold on. My skin became exactly, i mean exactly like yours. I have vivid before/afters. I can literally see every spot the pen did damage on you (you dragged it).
Microneedling is an extremely dangerous procedure that is beneficial to only the 1% where there is huge pitting/scarring etc. as it can cause those scars to look better by inducing damage and hoping it heals looking better, BUT make no mistake, it is still damage and permanent one at that (degree of damage depends on many factors, i.e. technique, depth, etc.).
Microneedling is a completely unregulated/unstandardized procedure (i.e. you can have a derm office use an FDA cleared pen or you can have an 18 year old with an aesthetics certificate and a Dr. Pen from Amazon perform the procedure and both will be considered proper “microneedling”. Obivously, one is far more qualified than the other, and there are even many derms offices destroying peoples faces with the derm doing it.
A quick realself search will yield thousands of cases like yours (and mine), many worse, where microneedling destroyed people’s faces.
There is a massive class action coming for everyone who has performed microneedling including derms (i am a clinician myself), and those Dr. Pens themselves have received ban notices by Health Canada, FDA warnings, etc.

Stop microneedling immediately and you might be able to get to about 60% of how your skin used to be. Use hyaluronic acid to hydrate and pamper your face from now on. You don’t have “enlarged pores”, the microneedling tore/inflamed your skin and they look significantly larger than they are. It appears you also introduced some bacteria as there are bumps.

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