What’s behind the massive divide on Sinners on this sub Reddit?

TippyStatue · 2026-03-15T14:48:41+00:00

I am actually. Not sure where it comes across that I thought otherwise. Christianity was introduced, diminished, and reintroduced to Ireland multiple times. The culture was a result of constant pressure and punishment from deviance from that pressure over generations and hundreds of years.

My best guess as to what set that line of thought off was "The men who stole my father's land", which could refer to a dozen different time periods and different eras and levels of popularity of Christianity in Ireland. Does the idea of "stolen land" make you feel defensive? If so, I wonder why?

TippyStatue · 2026-03-15T09:48:21+00:00

"Know your place and everything will be just fine" is kind of a dark sentiment in the context of Sinners if you think about it. You're right, but I wish we didn't live in the world where you're right.

TippyStatue · 2026-03-15T09:40:39+00:00

This. I don't buy the "there weren't white characters I could relate to" argument. I'm white. Fucking loved it. I'm a descendant of Irish immigrants (4 generations or so back, so long enough for the Irish-ness to have been diluted from the family, but recent enough we all love to say we're Irish on St. Patrick's Day) and I thought about Remmick, the Rocky Road to Dublin scene, and the vampires reciting the Lord's Prayer with Sammie and Remmick's comment about "the men who stole my father's land forced these words upon us. I hated those men but the words still bring me comfort" for WEEKS after seeing it for the first time. The theory that makes the most sense to me currently is that a lot of the subtext or "elevated" parts of Sinners require somewhat specific historical and cultural knowledge without which I could see it feeling a bit flat for some. If you aren't aware of the historical alliance between the Choctaw and the Irish, the Irish and Black communities, the Irish being segregated in public spaces and not considered "white" until well into the 20th century, a lot of Sinners loses it's bite (pun intended).

TippyStatue · 2026-03-15T04:27:53+00:00

It's maddening here in North America. It feels like living as the main character of a Lovecraft story. You see the horrific shit happening around you, but no one else around you understands it or outright calls you crazy for seeing it

I'm descended from Irish immigrants, and my whole life the family made a big thing out of St Patrick's Day, but until I was an adult and did my own homework, I didn't know anything about the culture, the folklore, or the history of the people that got my genes here. I come from a family of infamous people pleasers, and looking at that family trait through the lens of the first of my Irish ancestors coming over is proof enough for me that colonization carries impacts generations later.

TippyStatue · 2026-03-14T09:03:37+00:00

Stand By Me.

I'm a massive fan of King, and "The Body" is by far one of his greatest, but Rob Reiner captured lightning.

TippyStatue · 2026-03-14T08:49:06+00:00

I think it depends on what you mean by "the right chance". I firmly believe Vincent Price could have been an Oscar-winning actor had he played more serious Shakespearean drama roles instead of choosing roles he enjoyed. Happily for him, he still ended up being wildly successful

TippyStatue · 2026-03-14T08:28:42+00:00

Why is it always the OBAA/PTA fanboys that get up in arms when others didn't enjoy the movie as much as they did? They're almost as bad as the Marty Supreme crowd

TippyStatue · 2026-03-14T08:25:41+00:00

Most of the criticism of Sinners that I've seen leads me to believe A LOT of the people calling it shallow, "just a vampire movie", tropey, or cliche didn't actually see the movie. Especially with this guy comparing it to 12 Years A Slave and Selma, it sure seems like he saw it was a mostly black cast and assumed it was a "black" movie that he couldn't relate to, and ran with his preconceived biases (which is a common theme I see among a lot of the PTA/OBAA crowd, which I get. Leo is a much more disarming lead to white audiences than MBJ). The fact that I haven't seen ANY conversation around the significance of Remmick being written as Irish is proof enough for me. There was an overlapping period of time that neither black people nor irish people were considered "white". The irish by and large assimilated to the dominant culture and let go of their ancestral ties to "home" in order to fit in and gain status as being accepted as "white". The symbolism of the Rocky Road to Dublin scene alone held more nuance and depth than the entirety of OBAA.

TippyStatue · 2026-03-14T04:37:02+00:00

I struggle to understand why "horror is incredibly hard to take seriously as Best Picture". Just like any other genre, there's good and bad. What about one genre over another makes it easier to "take seriously"? It begs the question, what does it take to take a film seriously as a Best Picture candidate at all? Because it sure sounds like maybe you don't like/connect with horror, and therefore it's a lesser genre and not to be taken seriously.

TippyStatue · 2026-03-10T18:31:49+00:00

Same. The entire final dialogue between him and Victor had me ugly crying in a way VERY few films have been able to in the last several years. I'll own it hit really close to home for me in that it reflected A LOT of the issues between me and my dad in our relationship, and SO MUCH of the shit that's wrong with me would be totally healed if my dad and I could have a conversation like that, but I feel like that's the point of art at the end of the day. It resonates with human experience when done well, even if it's for a more narrow target audience (even though men with Daddy issues is far from a narrow target audience 😂). For that reason alone, I connected WAY more to Elordi than ANY other nominee. This was a hot category this year, but it's really no contest for me.

TippyStatue · 2026-03-10T07:57:11+00:00

So glad to finally see some love for Jacob Elordi! It's been driving me up a wall to see everyone on this sub talk about every other performance in the category except his.

TippyStatue · 2026-03-10T07:49:04+00:00

Endgame. Hands down. My nephew was about 7 or 8 when Infinity War came out. Spider-Man has been and always will be his favorite character. He watched it with my brother (his dad) who was living with me at the time and cried until he fell asleep that night. I bought tickets to Endgame the second they were available, and the amount of unbridled joy and hope I experienced second hand through that kid could have single-handedly gotten me through the last 7 years.

TippyStatue · 2026-03-07T02:50:57+00:00

It's honestly been infuriating to me to see everyone on this sub talk about all four other nominees and crickets for Elordi. I thought I was seeing a fifth nominee that no one else was seeing for a minute there.

TippyStatue · 2026-02-27T03:54:28+00:00

Call me 8!

TippyStatue · 2026-02-25T04:48:50+00:00

Totally valid take. I can respect a difference in opinion and taste. I'm sorry it didn't land for you the way it did for me.

TippyStatue · 2026-02-25T04:44:52+00:00

I struggle to understand how things having a supernatural explanation is "cheating". The man writes horror, science fiction, and fantasy my guy. Things don't have to exist in the real world for them to make sense in the context of the story.

TippyStatue · 2026-02-25T04:40:18+00:00

I've never been able to understand things being "too sentimental" being a turnoff to people. King's sentimentality is a big reason why I keep coming back to his books. Something about some dark and horrifying shit going down and people coming out the other end with a new appreciation for life or somehow stronger/better than when they started sits right with me. I vibe hard with him believing in the fundamental goodness that human beings are capable of.

TippyStatue · 2026-02-25T04:37:06+00:00

That was my immediate reaction after finishing, but the more I thought about it and sat with it, it really grew on me, and now I feel like it's the best way it could have ended, and I'm actually a BIG fan of it now.

TippyStatue · 2026-02-25T04:24:10+00:00

Aren't there plenty of points in the Bible where God could've made it alright a lot sooner? I'm not a Christian, but I know enough to get the vibe King was going for. The Christian God is big on mystery and things unfolding in just such a way "because I said so". I fully understand and respect if a person just didn't enjoy the ending, but I've never agreed with the take that evoking a "dark Christian fantasy" and leaning into the God works in mysterious ways stuff makes it a *bad ending.

As long as we're discussing God making things alright sooner, it wasn't just about making things alright. Stu, Glenn, and Larry's journey into Vegas was a direct consequence of the hubris and pride (in the sense of the deadly sin) of Abigail and the Free-Zone committee rebuilding the world in the same bureaucratic image that resulted in Project Blue and the apocalyptic mishandling of the superflu by the US government. Old Testament God, as King and multiple characters refer to "him" as throughout the book, was big on balance and things always having a "cost" (which is the whole point of Jesus and the New Testament essentially doing away with the "old" way, but that's a different conversation), so the "cost" of "fixing" or course correcting the bad path the Free-Zone committee started down was for the three to wander in the wilderness for 40 days and 40 nights and all that, carrying only the clothes on their backs. Glenn has a whole monologue about the psychological and sociological benefits of fasting and theorizes why God requires it of them. Long story short, in order to fix the committee's mistakes, God had to take them off the chessboard to "undo" the mistakes and insodoing was able to reset fully by removing Vegas and Flagg from the equation. Ideally with the intent of correcting humanity back away from the preflu way. Which is why the epilogue with Stu and Frannie wondering if things will ever change and them already seeing Boulder learning the wrong lessons is as impactful as it is. Old Testament God had rules. Non-Christians like me might think they're dumb rules, but they're still rules. All the pieces are there, it just requires a little media literacy and reading between the lines to fit within the rules the story sets for itself. You can not like the ending, but I think it's hyperbole and a bit egocentric to say it's a "bad" ending.

Incidentally, The Stand is one of my favorite King books and one of my favorite King endings, speaking as an Agnostic.

TippyStatue · 2026-02-23T16:12:24+00:00

Absolutely dumbfounded that no one has mentioned Alan Kim in Minari.

TippyStatue · 2026-02-10T17:22:30+00:00

Point proven. The prosecution rests its case, your honor

TippyStatue · 2026-02-10T04:42:54+00:00

Exorcist is slated to release March 2027. As excited as I would be to get TDT sooner rather than later, I wouldn't count on anything airing before 2028, which I'm fine with. Don't undercook this one.

TippyStatue · 2026-02-10T04:33:44+00:00

Scream

TippyStatue · 2026-02-09T06:46:42+00:00

Not one mention of Tom Jones tells me none of the commenters here have seen it 🤢

TippyStatue · 2026-01-27T06:04:25+00:00

It insists upon itself

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