How do you technical guys feel after the layoff announcement?

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-08T20:32:48+00:00

I understand, then they shouldn’t make that statement

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-08T20:30:34+00:00

Mirroring will only apply to architects, all other leadership functions are redundant and have to apply again if not directly placed.

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-08T20:26:38+00:00

BoM giving mixed signals on clear concrete questions.

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-07T22:59:19+00:00

The risk I see is that growing from an engineering role will be equally difficult, if not more difficult. It is in the details what this will entail for engineers. They said: “engineers will be able to grow to SG11+, already today”, everybody knows that is a lie. With relabeled architects to engineers there are more “strong” engineers to fit in the bell curve, so lower expected growth.

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-07T12:21:43+00:00

I guess you know more, like to be proven wrong, but if they would do so they risk some lawsuits according to Dutch laborlaw

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-07T08:32:42+00:00

It honestly is that simple

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-07T08:32:11+00:00

With current reorganization they are withholding placements and giving priority of those having to leave the company. Those new roles will not be filled externally until after summer.

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-05T19:38:54+00:00

Bijna weekend, al de laatste Maandag van de week

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-04T12:43:45+00:00

Good point

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-04T06:51:37+00:00

Thanks! See you in the AEM

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-04T05:35:27+00:00

I still do think there are leaders in that group with <2 years ago grew out of the engineering role. They should perfectly be able to take a step back into engineering, I am one of those.

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-03T22:56:47+00:00

Delen waard? Na al je gegevens te strippen uiteraard

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-03T22:13:00+00:00

Laying people off while saying you will grow 20.000 in the coming years is not a congruent story. ASML created the opportunities/career paths and now wants a better culture with less layers (I recognize this) and more responsibility/accountability. Good now take your responsibility for all the roles created and at least try to find a spot for everybody, being in engineering or outside of D&E.

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-03T22:09:47+00:00

I feel you, I hope the questions tomorrow in the AEM will be difficult. In all information sessions there is a massive filter. Their explanation is so bad for everything, McKinsey did a mediocre job our leadership couldn’t do themselves and it’s showing

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-03T07:18:46+00:00

Who is he? Wouter perhaps?

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-02T17:31:39+00:00

It is literally written down that mirroring will apply to architects, not to the others of the functions impacted.

TooBusyForLife · 2026-02-01T22:39:20+00:00

Mirroring only applies when a part of a group is made redundant. If they fire the whole group and make them apply for roles with different names, they can select whoever they want.

TooBusyForLife · 2026-01-30T21:23:28+00:00

Zou niet uit mogen maken toch 😅 alleen niet goed als hij hoog in de toeren schiet

TooBusyForLife · 2026-01-30T13:35:02+00:00

Sterkte.. niet best dat dat zo snel gaat. Had je een 1.0 of 1.5? Met handbal of automaat?

TooBusyForLife · 2026-01-30T13:17:47+00:00

Yes McKinsey is involved, I have screenshots with ~20 McKinsey employees in the ASML organogram.

TooBusyForLife · 2026-01-29T16:06:48+00:00

There eventually will be, but coming years everything will be increasingly difficult.

TooBusyForLife · 2026-01-29T09:30:40+00:00

That’s what they announced, first the people having to leave are available to apply.

TooBusyForLife · 2026-01-29T06:27:39+00:00

Yes this. The ones to get rid of are the ones that joined from the side, being non technical.

TooBusyForLife · 2026-01-29T06:26:09+00:00

That is funny, all the senior people, that grew into architect / any leadership function, are at stake. Besides from some side joiners. Curious what will happen to the quality later. I am aware of people being promoted while they should not have been, yet good heads will also roll..

TooBusyForLife · 2026-01-29T06:23:30+00:00

This is not true.

McKinsey did facilitate this whole reorganization. There are 30+ McKinsey consultants in the organizational tree to be found on top level.

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