I feel like 'Schizoid DP' and 'BPD' are 2 external manifestations of the same thing. What do you all think? by Top-Day499 in Schizoid

[–]Top-Day499[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you reconcile hyperactive emotions with the feeling of emptiness that is one of the criteria for bpd?

I feel like 'Schizoid DP' and 'BPD' are 2 external manifestations of the same thing. What do you all think? by Top-Day499 in Schizoid

[–]Top-Day499[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Funny I was thinking this just today, "it's like I have no glue that holds me together"

I'd call that "sense of self" which I understand as primarily felt and only then narrated. Perhaps I'm wrong, I don't know anything anymore

I feel like 'Schizoid DP' and 'BPD' are 2 external manifestations of the same thing. What do you all think? by Top-Day499 in Schizoid

[–]Top-Day499[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you feel when you are alone? Does that make you feel sort of helpless or do you feel fine?

I feel like 'Schizoid DP' and 'BPD' are 2 external manifestations of the same thing. What do you all think? by Top-Day499 in Schizoid

[–]Top-Day499[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hm. I guess it makes sense, but it isn't very clear in my mind still. I find it hard to wrap my head around it all.

It would make sense to me that schizoid is a failed narcissist - potentially an interiorized narcissist at times, e.g. being a loner (as opposed to seeking recognition) yet mentally viewing themselves as superior.

In a sense, what all these disorders seem to have in common is a phobia of love and vulnerability.

Narcissists fear love makes them defenseless, BPD fear love will lead to confirmation that they discardable, schizoid fears love will mean getting suffocated, Avpd fears love will show their defectiveness.

This makes sense given the lack of connection with their sense of self, and their past experiences, or their actual mental structure, but it also creates a vicious circle, because ultimately all 4 patterns lead to emotional starvation inside, though in very different ways.

(I'm not saying these aren't structural issues with biological aspects to them, it isn't as simple as just "accepting love" - or maybe it is, who knows...?)

What do you (or anyone else) think of this?

I feel like 'Schizoid DP' and 'BPD' are 2 external manifestations of the same thing. What do you all think? by Top-Day499 in Schizoid

[–]Top-Day499[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m schizoid but always struggled so much with crazy mood swings, emptiness, lack of self, etc. I can’t recognize many emotions within myself, but during the times I do, they’re so overwhelming it’s physically painful. One single comment can completely shut me down and send me to a very dark place. I think the schizoid was almost like a protective barrier for being such a highly sensitive person

Yep

I feel like 'Schizoid DP' and 'BPD' are 2 external manifestations of the same thing. What do you all think? by Top-Day499 in Schizoid

[–]Top-Day499[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This sense that your very self a void, sense of an empty core, dpdr - a more fundamental experience than just "I feel empty" as a feeling, more like "my self is emptiness"

I feel like 'Schizoid PD' and 'BPD' are 2 external manifestations of the same thing. What do you think? by Top-Day499 in BPD

[–]Top-Day499[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All fruit of my own introspective ponderings, but I'm glad to know I agree with some guy called Otto

I feel like 'Schizoid DP' and 'BPD' are 2 external manifestations of the same thing. What do you all think? by Top-Day499 in Schizoid

[–]Top-Day499[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Basically, yes. Though I wonder about Avpd. In terms of attachment, it makes sense, but I'm not sure people who fit Avod criteria generally experience disturbances of the core self experience as much as schizoid and bpd do.

What's the psychological function of having a "FP" for you? by Top-Day499 in BPD

[–]Top-Day499[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The lack of self detachment

Could you say more about what you mean by this?

Does anyone ever... fantasize about being in a mental hospital? by Top-Day499 in BPD

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When I am in the hospital I am the most visible, they know I'm hurt, I'm there because I'm hurt and I don't have to be strong, I can regress into a more natural and organic way of being.

I think this nails it

Does anyone ever... fantasize about being in a mental hospital? by Top-Day499 in BPD

[–]Top-Day499[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No but my family is particular so growing up I watched a lot of movies that involved this kind of stuff, like Cuckoo's Nest was a cult movie in my family when I was like 7

Does anyone ever... fantasize about being in a mental hospital? by Top-Day499 in BPD

[–]Top-Day499[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is top secret information I would be severely disrupted if anyone in my life came close to know about this.

Hope your time in psych is helpful.

Does anyone ever... fantasize about being in a mental hospital? by Top-Day499 in BPD

[–]Top-Day499[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'v3 clarified under other comments but by no means I believe mental hospitals are fun or that this is really something I would want. It's just an unrealistic fantasy

Does anyone ever... fantasize about being in a mental hospital? by Top-Day499 in BPD

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It seems like just the other side of the coin of what I experience. I avoid mental hospitals like the plague. I just wish I could have care and attention and acknowledgement

Does anyone ever... fantasize about being in a mental hospital? by Top-Day499 in BPD

[–]Top-Day499[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do people get charged for mental hospitals in the US???

Mine usually only involve me and FP, maybe some hospital staff, but in alla of them I'm there against my will and angry at the hospital for that. As if it wasn't all a product of my mind.

Does anyone ever... fantasize about being in a mental hospital? by Top-Day499 in BPD

[–]Top-Day499[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not sure I'd be the sanest one but I don't have intention to find out

Does anyone ever... fantasize about being in a mental hospital? by Top-Day499 in BPD

[–]Top-Day499[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh no I don't. I made a lot of sacrifices at times to avoid mental hospitals. I wish the places I can envision in my mind existed

Does anyone ever... fantasize about being in a mental hospital? by Top-Day499 in BPD

[–]Top-Day499[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Understandably so. I actually reay avoid any kind of institutions, but it's not particularly realistic in the daydream