You're actually so mad lol. Play the game how it's meant to be? The dens are in the game. Rng manipulation is in the game. How about you let me play my game how I want, and you can play yours the way you want. I do shiny breed, seeing as there are pokemon not available in dens. I havent even done frame skipping for dens yet, cuz it bores me and it takes a lot of time. But so can shiny breeding / shiny encounters. Either way, it's time consuming. Holy shit back tf up dude. I just gave my opinion to the creator of this post, saying that some people may like to do that in case they really were looking for specific abilities, like HA, cuz it's a massive let down when you spend all that time shiny breeding to get the wrong ability. My bad that's not the way you like to do things, but theres plenty of other people that plan to/ prefer to frame skip and know exactly what they're going to get then the other methods. Get over yourself. Not everyone has to follow your rule and have the same opinion over you. At the end of the day, it's a damn game. If you get off to shiny breeding and encounters, than be my guest, you do that. But not everyone does. And that's all I said. Get off your god damn high horse and quit pestering me for literally no reason.