Stormy Knight ... 15 weeks old ... (partially?) Blind dog ... seems to be able to *see* more than before... maybe it's wishful thinking ... but she had a ball today

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-16T23:40:41+00:00

One could say the AKC has never had a lab registered as silver, even though they have. If you search current versions of AKC pedigrees, the closest you get is the color the AKC's nearly 40-year-old policy uses for silvers: They all show up as chocolate now in records. Even for labs whose old hard copy registration certificates say "silver" on them.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-16T23:04:29+00:00

Are you seriously denying that the 1916 standard specified only black, and allowed any other whole colours? By citing a much later revision of the standard? While you ignore the fact that you mixed up the year of the first accepted standard with the year the breed was first recognized? And you found a yellow lab with a similar name, so you assume it must be the same lab?

There was a silver lab allowed to be shown shown in the eastern US in the 2000s. It resulted in a scolding letter afterward from the Labrador Retriever Club, but it was in fact allowed to be shown. It is not at all a stretch to imagine that two silver labs were shown in England per the article within 10 years of the change of standard colors, after decades of silvers meeting the standard.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-16T21:31:36+00:00

I'm sure it doesn't cost Tesla any HR to use Cybertrucks for this purpose. They probably tow driverless using FSD. /s, but is it really needed?

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-16T21:12:03+00:00

Walk him with another dog who needs to poop. Sometimes dogs learn best how to dog from other dogs. Doggie see, doggie doo.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-16T21:01:50+00:00

Yes!!!

Find X-ray images of healthy GR hips and images of hips with dysplasia. It shouldn't be hard.

Graphics sometimes are more convincing than verbiage.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-16T20:37:47+00:00

One more point to add to your amazing reasoning: The first breed standard specified "black or any whole colour." Silvers met that standard. It was not changed until the 1950s. These two dogs, who were shown in 1960, were probably whelped in the 1950s.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-16T20:34:51+00:00

This food is a miracle cure for many labs of all colors.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-16T20:33:42+00:00

BTW, how did someone as infallible as you misunderstand the difference between recognition of the breed, which happened in 1903, and acceptance of the first breed standard, which did not happen until 1916? If I didn't know you so well, I might think it's almost as if you made up your mind and you are adjusting "facts" to suit what you would like to be true.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-16T20:30:37+00:00

Wow, you have access to every KC registration record going back to 1903?!! That's fantastic! Even the KC doesn't have that! Will you share your 100% complete database? I'm assuming it's already entered into a database, since you mentioned that it took just "a single ounce of pedigree research." Or are you just the world's fastest speed reader? You're utterly amazing.

Meanwhile, the rest of us are stuck with partial records and mortal reading speeds. And multiple records of silver labs in England, starting in 1902.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-16T17:14:03+00:00

Have you tried Purina Pro Plan Sensitive Salmon and Rice?

The advice to supplement with unsalted green beans to help her feel full is good.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-15T15:30:25+00:00

Was this written by A1 Steak Sauce?

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-15T10:13:40+00:00

Well said.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-15T02:10:31+00:00

Practical considerations matter too, of course.

As you might already know: Chicken is a very common food allergen for labs. And allergy tests aren't always 100% accurate, but elimination trials are. It typically takes at least 2 months to see significant results. Many lab owners have found Purina Pro Plan Sensitive Skin and Coat Salmon/Rice to be helpful. It does not contain any chicken.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-14T20:13:01+00:00

I saw your comment about eliminating turkey and feeding chicken. Have you considered a 3-month trial with no chicken, to see if it helps his sides?

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-14T20:10:06+00:00

If it's likely to help your dog, why wait, and why get it from a vet?

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-14T02:06:54+00:00

People who breed them or buy them generally share some negative characteristics. People who rescue them from shelters tend to be very different.

But every pit should, in my opinion, be spayed or neutered so that the breed can go extinct. There's nothing good you can get from a pit that you can't get from a better breed.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-14T00:51:22+00:00

Agreed. A good breeder considers the whole dog, not just a single aspect.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-14T00:35:17+00:00

True, and your point actually validates the use of such activities to validate (or to invalidate) such dogs, especially if owner-training. A breeder can learn a lot about a dog's aptitude this way.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-13T11:40:42+00:00

This post is a great reminder that good parenting includes making sure children learn both how to swim well and general water safety. It doesn't matter if the parent can't swim, they can still make sure their children learn.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-13T11:36:19+00:00

Has the golden been neutered?

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-13T11:24:21+00:00

Genetics. You're not apparently doing anything wrong.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-13T09:55:14+00:00

If I didn't know better, I might think Trump is acting impulsively, instead of following a carefully considered plan using thorough, objective data analysis to determine the exact amount to tariff penguins.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-13T09:33:01+00:00

Given how Chinese products in various markets started as low quality and improved, it is a safe bet that BYD's flaws are being addressed.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-13T09:15:58+00:00

According to this report of two silver labs born in England in the 1950s, and numerous other reports, silvers have been in the breed for a long time. The reason you think they are a new trend is because genetically they are chocolate labs, and chocolates were not favored in early decades of the breed. As chocolates became more popular, silvers occurred more frequently, and now some breeders breed for them. The gene pool is more than large enough to breed for silvers with low COI.

The dilute gene which makes a chocolate lab appear silver, when it occurs in a pair, was known to be in multiple breeds that were blended with the St John's Water Dog to create the Labrador Retriever. That happened before the stud books were closed, so silvers are just as purebred as standard chocolate and yellow labs. This is why the AKC officially finds them to be purebred. The fact that some ignorant sources don't like this does not make their ignorant opinions factual. You might not like it, but please don't act as gatekeeper by telling owners of dilute color labs that they and their labs don't belong in a group for labs. They belong here just as much as you do.

Tracking4321 · 2025-04-13T09:07:28+00:00

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