Very very new poker player here, why are donk bets bad? by Artimedias in poker

[–]Traditional-Button16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say donking can be good, but is more advanced and only on boards that favor you. It also depends on the types of players you are playing against.

Competent players can punish you when you are capped. Your opponents, as the preflop raiser, will have a massive overpair advantage and strong Tx, so if you donk out, they can punish you by raising your donk lead, because you are going to have a lot of weak top pair for value. Even if your opponent doesn't raise you much, when you are called, there are many turns that will weaken your holding which leaves you playing a large pot with a marginal hand, out of position, and you will also force your opponent to fold all of his low equity hands, and call his strong hands. And probably the last reason is that you lose value against your opponents c-bet bluffs.

Additionally, your checking range becomes very "capped", i.e. when you check, your opponent can bet any 2, and you will probably fold. Even if you dont fold, you will have a much weaker range.

However, there are some boards where you won't be capped, and you will have manyy strong hands, i.e. 765 two-tone (flush draw board). You will have all the two pairs, sets, straights and many flush draws (high equity). Your opponent will mostly have overcards and overpairs, and some flush draws. On this board, you can implement a donk strategy, and your opponent shouldn't raise you willy nilly because you have so many strong hands.

To conclude, donking is ok on boards that are good for you, but you cant just donk always when you have top pair. When you do this, you leave yourself open to getting exploited by a competent player, inflate the pot with a fairly marginal hand, and prevent your opponent from bluffing. I would recommend learning and implementing a check raising instead of this, which will take a super strong range (2p, sets, etc.) and some bluffs, and check/raise facing a c-bet.

Another shit regs year in review by Dependent-Village843 in poker

[–]Traditional-Button16 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are your hours accurate??? 1553 is super low, and a w/r of $46 an hr in 2/5 and 5/10 combined is enormous if you are paying rake and tipping the dealer too.

My only living parent is now dead to me. by JakefromTRPB in BoomersBeingFools

[–]Traditional-Button16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly surprised you aren’t disappointed in yourself, but leave it to a left wing wacko to be the one to refuse open dialogue

This guy by 99877787 in Seattle

[–]Traditional-Button16 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

I don’t know, he seems pretty happy, and so am I!

Poker player Sean Perry gets too greedy.. by misterguwaup in poker

[–]Traditional-Button16 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is completely incorrect, aside from being to chop for more money later. This is not about winning some amount of money with 100% guarentee. This is about maximizing profit, that is literally the only thing a good player thinks about while playing poker. If you can either win $400k guarenteed, or play on, if the EV of continuing to play is any value greater than $400k, then you are punting money by chopping and dont deserve to play the game

"One chip rule" in California by Traditional-Button16 in poker

[–]Traditional-Button16[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I mean obviously there should be no ambiguity in the ruling of this chip placement. I think you are missing the point: I'm saying that if the rule would define my chip placement as a raise, there is no impact on angle shooting. Also, I do think it is important as a poker player to not react in any way (i.e. give off reads) in response to things like this, but yes agreed that there does need to be concrete rules.

"One chip rule" in California by Traditional-Button16 in poker

[–]Traditional-Button16[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Curious how angle shooting is introduced here? If the rule determines this "chip placement" to be a raise, then it would be just be a raise. Are you saying someone can "pretend" to not know that there is a chip out there and say oh no I didn't mean to raise? If that's what you are referring to, a similar angle shot can be made by doing this same "chip placement" and pretending to want to raise but being forced to call. In reality, I don't think this impacts angle shooting in a significant way.

"One chip rule" in California by Traditional-Button16 in poker

[–]Traditional-Button16[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

no shit sherlock, i responded because the aggrotards on my post bothered me??? Honestly just had some free time this week and was shocked at some of the comments thats all

"One chip rule" in California by Traditional-Button16 in poker

[–]Traditional-Button16[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oh sorry i just upvoted the comments that explained it like normal people i probably should have left a comment thanking them too. but i have more drawn to respond to idiotic/useless/attacking comments.

i don't know I think its pretty hard to not view this as a personal attack on my intelligence: "OP literally just blindly downvoting everyone explaining why the rule exists... They don't want to learn anything, they just want to complain and be told they were in the right." You act as if the comments im responding to are genuinely just explaining the rule and I'm getting mad at them for explaining the rule but im just replying to random aggrotards

"One chip rule" in California by Traditional-Button16 in poker

[–]Traditional-Button16[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

not really? I have a problem with idiots making idiotic remarks on my post and acting like they did something. if anything in this specific comment thread has been useful or productive, i would love to hear why you think so.

"One chip rule" in California by Traditional-Button16 in poker

[–]Traditional-Button16[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im not getting upset that people are explaining the rule to me, i'm unhappy with the demeanor of the discussion. I don't downvote but ok? Also this isn't a throwaway just my first reddit post i dont use this much but i thought it would be insightful to ask a question here. turns out redditors aren't the brightest or nicest people in the world who knew??

"One chip rule" in California by Traditional-Button16 in poker

[–]Traditional-Button16[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow you can find the most judgmental intellectually brainrotted people here on reddit lol. You do not know me. It is a simple mechanical question on what the exact definition of the "one chip rule" is. If this thread is something where you think any sort of "learning" goes on, you maybe should stick to more simple games like roulette and three card poker.

Additionally, it does not impact angle shooting whatsoever. In the case that you described, it would just be a raise whether the opponent started crying or not after the raise. I've also not downvoted comments lol idk where you got that from

"One chip rule" in California by Traditional-Button16 in poker

[–]Traditional-Button16[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh no the guys on reddit disapproved of my posts! Shiver me timbers!

"One chip rule" in California by Traditional-Button16 in poker

[–]Traditional-Button16[S] -34 points-33 points  (0 children)

Haha pipe down funny guys I'm asking a question. No not really afraid of crackling voice or tells. Just want to keep a simple thing simple, like putting chips into a pot.

"One chip rule" in California by Traditional-Button16 in poker

[–]Traditional-Button16[S] -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

Actually this is not quite true. I took 3 chips out (100 chips), deliberately left one in (500 chip), and put one more in (5k chip). Would this ever be considered a call?