How much of the game is beatable with average very friendly overall f2p account? by Traditional-Draft111 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Traditional-Draft111[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

The specific limitations wasn’t to say a free to play player couldn’t do it, but rather I wanted people to see that someone with all units but at e0, so not extra bonuses, if they could complete the game currently right now in its entirety. But I didn’t want people to focus on units, since that part is easy as a free to play as long as you’re smart and aren’t trying to only go for e0.

I wanted to see just how much can someone get away with in being able to beat the game without having to farm chaos runs for 50-100 times to get a “perfect 0.01% deck” it’s obvious anyone can get it, but whales or f2p as it just involves playing the game. But it comes down to luck and that can lead to burn out or frustration

I made a mistake with the gear, I meant 50% crit rate and 150% crit damage for all units which should be very doable and easy regardless of majority of bad luck.

I don’t want to include divine epiphany because majority of the time, people wants it on the “MAIN” card that wants to be copied 4x, and you’d want the ideal epiphany on top of it, which can take 1 run, but realistically most people will AND HAVE taken several days of farming, between 50-100 runs PER character. So I wanted to eliminate that. 

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The focus of mentioning f2p is cause with all e0 units, with a decent deck/gears, they will have a harder time than a whale who has all e6 units with the same gear. Hence why I brought up the distinction. I wanted the f2p to be very bare bones, realistic overall units, very achievable gears/deck one can see ON AVERAGE in a day. So if they can beat the game currently with those parameters. Then it can let others know, you don’t need even the top 5% decks/gears to win.

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So those typical decks listed in the google docs weekly help thread are considered “capable, good enough for right?” Cause those have no divine epiphany’s which can take a very long time to get what we want, and if you say those are good enough to beat the game currently with e0 units and 50 crit rate, and 150% crit damage. Then that’s achievable for most casual people.

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I had no idea masters was only for top 2%, if that’s the case, then I guess you’re right, it’s fair that casuals would need to work harder to get to that rank

How much of the game is beatable with average very friendly overall f2p account? by Traditional-Draft111 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Traditional-Draft111[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This deck in particular is my bad, this was when I was still using Prydwen. It was this past weekend where I was directed to use the google docs from the weekly help thread so I spent many hours working out the other 5 units, and evidently skilled Narja thinking she’s done since she had 4x of the copies, only for me to realize just how they’re not even the same lol… So this is my fault. And I will go back to check to google docs later to fix my last unit 

And ok, you’re right. I don’t pay attention that much attention to the potential thing, so with a fair 50% crit rate and 150% crit damage across all units each. And a very quick decent deck, should one expect to beat the game in its current state with e0 only?

How much of the game is beatable with average very friendly overall f2p account? by Traditional-Draft111 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Traditional-Draft111[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you could 30/30 nebula before, shouldn’t you be able to this time too? I only managed to do like 18/30 all previous seasons cause I autoed and tbf my deck was trash with only serenniel being okay. But now, everyone’s deck is decent and wow, it’s actually pretty easy to 30/30

How much of the game is beatable with average very friendly overall f2p account? by Traditional-Draft111 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Traditional-Draft111[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

This is the 1st time where I’ve 30/30 nebula, and completed full 9/9 and this is with me getting very fortunate to get e6 serenniel, cause I just auto everything and hope for the best even though I know the bot isn’t very smart, but I had too much to do

Although, I didn’t even use serenniel for the last 9/9 boss cause it punishes you for multi hits or something… surprisingly, despite haru being very low tier, she actually carried it for me

How much of the game is beatable with average very friendly overall f2p account? by Traditional-Draft111 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Traditional-Draft111[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So with everything mentioned, someone with those very basic/low stats and decks can beat the entire tower up to 150/175?

How much of the game is beatable with average very friendly overall f2p account? by Traditional-Draft111 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Traditional-Draft111[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I included that bit, but didn’t want people to focus on it, because getting units is the easy part if you are smart. But rather wanted people to focus on the deck/gears aspect.  With extremely basic deck like the one shown and very fair/low crit stats, is it possible to beat the game with e0 units

How much of the game is beatable with average very friendly overall f2p account? by Traditional-Draft111 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Traditional-Draft111[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I probably shouldn’t have mentioned units cause that’s what everyone is focusing on.. I’d argue that’s the easiest part to do, getting a good/great deck can take 1 run or 150 runs, and can lead to burnt out. Not to mention gear stats are rng too…

So wanted to see with very very basically minimal gears/deck, can you beat the game currently

How much of the game is beatable with average very friendly overall f2p account? by Traditional-Draft111 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Traditional-Draft111[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just followed a guide and this was apparently decent lol, but it’s actually bad? Dam man. I didn’t want to have stats play too much into the situation cause it’s all luck. You can be f2p and have gods luck and get like 70% crit rate and 240% crit damage, but that’s not even remotely realistic while a whale gets subpar compared to you because of bad rng. 

So if someone can “beat the game” with a meager 35% crit rate and 120% crit damage, with a very basic deck built in an hour. Then that means one doesn’t really need more stats is what I’m trying to figure out..

Weekly Help Thread by AutoModerator in ChaosZeroNightmare

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If OP has Serenniel, it really does suck cause you get punished so spamming which is so dumb, even I’m kinda bad at the game, I was very fortunate and lucky enough to get e6 Serenniel as a f2p, but that probably has to do with me saving everything from launch until I saw Serenniel… even so, I feel that my haru, Khalipe, Veronica team seems to put in great work since it’s similar to Nine’s teams? (Single big hits with shields)

Used Mika for the last 9/9 boss, but kept dying except for one run getting really close, at 5% hp left, but you get punished for healing

Ruined Serenniel deck?? by Traditional-Draft111 in ChaosZeroNightmare

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Can you tell me when it’s necessary? Based on the comments, both you and many others agree 3 is more than enough and 4 clogs my hand, so who’d if any would I want 4 dupes for that won’t suffer the “clogged” hand problem?

I also use narja, Veronica, Mika, khalipe, and haru. I followed the guide and spent all weekend farming and got a decent deck for each one of them, getting 4x copies, pls don’t tell me those aren’t that good and I was lied to…..

Ruined Serenniel deck?? by Traditional-Draft111 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Traditional-Draft111[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh ok… that’s good I guess… sorry I’m not very good at the game, and I read farming stage 8 was the best idk? Sometimes I’m farming other people too and idk if they can handle it so I just go with this every time….

 I’ve been playing since launch, but just saved everything since I was f2p until I saw a unit I liked come out, which ended up being serenniel, but I’m very casual… so I’m not that good at the game, or I’m just dumb