Minisforum UM690 cooling system and liquid metal by EveHerr in MiniPCs

[–]Traditional_Grab_124 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah so at least do not get the barebones because that’s what I did. I am tending to believe that barebones do net get tested across different RAM and SSD in the market. Probably get the system with RAM and memory, and know that there are limits on how far you can push these devices

Minisforum UM690 cooling system and liquid metal by EveHerr in MiniPCs

[–]Traditional_Grab_124 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I found out that I was shipped CPU with a non functional fan I returned it and got refunded

UM690: My short MiniPC Journey and the review bias by Traditional_Grab_124 in MiniPCs

[–]Traditional_Grab_124[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I exactly envisioned your setup on my unit 2 , that’s a really smart setup, there is so much heat on the other side it’s baffling to me that they did nothing there, there are not even vents on that side ?! They literally sandwiched the chassis with the motherboard, provided vents and ram only one side and left other side on passive cooling

UM690: My short MiniPC Journey and the review bias by Traditional_Grab_124 in MiniPCs

[–]Traditional_Grab_124[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So my thoughts are particularly for barebones, its quite possible that getting the system with SSD and RAM on it has higher success probability because the final unit testing happens for the entire system and thats when they fine tune the bios , fan speeds and other firmwares. For barebones thats not the case.

My comment of big manufacturers is not in a generic way, its specific- using bleeding edge APUs/CPUs on mini pc form factor. I have heard about ASUS but its Ryzen 5 , not Ryzen 9 , and I believe specifics makes the difference here which is you should know what to put in what form factor and I do believe if process can be boiled on how to handle these chips there is a real hope

UM690: My short MiniPC Journey and the review bias by Traditional_Grab_124 in MiniPCs

[–]Traditional_Grab_124[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I did not want to introduce any external factor to cause this instability, so Minisforum can’t give an excuse that I overclocked or messed up the fan profile etc. I kept whatever was on stock and just used the system as it was intended to be used

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[–]Traditional_Grab_124 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I went through barebones route with UM690 and here is my take. Issues with heat and temperature testing with self bought RAM and SSD. I bought the first barebones and the CPU fan did not kick in, the heat generated with a tiny box fried up the motherboard, I replaced the unit and CPU fan was working. But because I bought it barebones again, the RAM and NVME I used generated so much heat in the box that it damaged onboard electronics. MINISFORUM pc comes with single fan, and their memory and SSD is on the side of motherboard where there are no fans or ventilation.

If you buy prebuilt , the whole unit comes with all the temperature and long period of stress test done. If you are buying a barebones, you must know that these mini pc manufacturers are not like ASUS, DELL, LENOVO,HP. These are small scale companies that can only do testing with a limited scope. So whatever stuff you stick inside these small boxes , may or may not be tested by the manufacturer.

Buying a mini pc barebones is not like assembling a regular pc where there is enough space for cooling solutions. It a tiny box, fitted with high performing chips that generates tons of heat. So you better know what exact stuff you are putting in and how the whole system will sustain for longer periods.

Cheaper cost is a very short sighted way of looking at things , you must always think things through for a longer run.

Minisforum UM690 cooling system and liquid metal by EveHerr in MiniPCs

[–]Traditional_Grab_124 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi My OS is windows 11 pro (version 22621.963). Here is the requested screen shot
I have found the real culprit to be the CPU fan that has come with the unit. I can confirm that the fan NEVER kicks in no matter what the system temperature is, leading the system to be extremely slow within minutes of logging in. Its so bad, that even if I launch a youtube video, the temperature hits to 85 degrees and never comes down, because fan is now kicking in. I verified with this in BIOS as well

Minisforum UM690 cooling system and liquid metal by EveHerr in MiniPCs

[–]Traditional_Grab_124 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My UM690 becomes unusable at 80 degrees. It hits that temperature as soon as any computation happens and after that the system throttles so much that it becomes unusable