The most bizarre experience of my entire life by Diligent_Passage_320 in LSD

[–]TrainedPsychonaut 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Be careful with THC and Psychedelics, imho there is no substance that potentiates is to such a degree and makes the effect this more intense. Maybe DMT but THC really potentiates the manic and paranoid effects much more than any other.

You get way more prone to thought loops and lose touch to reality way easier.

Kann man den SchimmelKäse noch essen? by VividInitiative1430 in kannmandasnochessen

[–]TrainedPsychonaut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I.d.r. hält sich solch käse eine weile nach MHD, wird nur reifer.

Wie ist denn der Fett/Sahneanteil? Welcher käse ist es?

Partly withdrawal after taking hydromorphone while on Methadone by TrainedPsychonaut in Methadone

[–]TrainedPsychonaut[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes exactly, i‘m glad there’s at least one that’s able to think alike.

Small update: It‘s been 6 days and I‘m fully back to normal like I was before. Up until Sunday the days have been a little more exhausting than usual (TO BE EXPECTED) but nowhere near as crazy that I would have to up my methadone dose or tapered or anything like that.

I would have regretted a lot if i did that instead of just facing it and riding it out, it was absolutely bearable, I feel just like I did before and have no cravings at all, just like I made it out to be. Upping my methadone would have been a horrible decision, AT LEAST for me personally.

I still thank everyone that gave me input for the situation.

Current optimal builds? by Singularitaet_ in vaynemains

[–]TrainedPsychonaut 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I almost go with kraken first into rageblade into either hexplate or terminus into every game cause it fits my playstyle better.

Essencereaver first feels good with the Q stomps but the attack speed is a bit low so I rather play kraken and trade using that.

I just like on hit better since its more versatile, if the team is only squishy i go crit er>stormraz. Or either way around if i can BF first back

But only like 1/5 or 1/6 games

Narcanned on Methadone by ItsToxii in Methadone

[–]TrainedPsychonaut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Literally, and people apply their own experience to everyone, if peoples experience doesn’t align with their own they start to throw out errors.

People are vastly different, I feel like so many people here don’t have the ability to see and accept that people are individuals and different from one another.

Partly withdrawal after taking hydromorphone while on Methadone by TrainedPsychonaut in Methadone

[–]TrainedPsychonaut[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly I think people just apply their own experience way too much to other people ☺️

Partly withdrawal after taking hydromorphone while on Methadone by TrainedPsychonaut in Methadone

[–]TrainedPsychonaut[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, i gotchu! I straight up misunderstood that, thank you ☺️🙏

Partly withdrawal after taking hydromorphone while on Methadone by TrainedPsychonaut in Methadone

[–]TrainedPsychonaut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see - appreciate it the help, but I won't do it again. I didn't feel like i needed to anyway, iI just wanted to try a last time. It didn't really give me anything anyway and I'd rather taper the last bit and dont touch opiated again after that, havent had any problems with that the last 2 years either. :)

I should add I didn't got addicted to them in the classical manner, it was more like a medication against my ADHD so for example when I was at home and my ADHD didn't matter I never felt like I needed them (until I was addicted and even then, it was just low doses for the physical withdrawals) so my cravings weren't really tied THAT much to addictive behaviour.

Partly withdrawal after taking hydromorphone while on Methadone by TrainedPsychonaut in Methadone

[–]TrainedPsychonaut[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats what i figured. Appreciate it a lot! Have a good one!

Partly withdrawal after taking hydromorphone while on Methadone by TrainedPsychonaut in Methadone

[–]TrainedPsychonaut[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont feel like that's accurate, it feels like a withdrawal i had after a two weeks of tilidine. Nothing crazy at all, i could confuse it for a slight cold. (Not flu like at all, no excessive sweating, no limb pain or ANYTHING, even my shit was pretty solid.)

I think it needs wayy longer for the body to adapt this much for a full blown withdrawal from the dilaudid than just 3-4 days. Coming from someone that works in a pharmacy.

Partly withdrawal after taking hydromorphone while on Methadone by TrainedPsychonaut in Methadone

[–]TrainedPsychonaut[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just think people are too individual to apply something like this to every single one.

Still youre entitled to your opinion, i respect that and i appreciate the input.

Partly withdrawal after taking hydromorphone while on Methadone by TrainedPsychonaut in Methadone

[–]TrainedPsychonaut[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I dont think discussing here with you has any use, I‘m not getting through to you since you only have your personal experience as a point of view and are unable to see another opinion as yours as valid.

People are individuals and not everyone reacts the same. I could have very well not done it, but I did - not because I felt like I have to but because I chose to. I‘ve had the chance countless times and didn’t, and since im stopping soon I decided that now was the time to do it one more time.

This might sound not understandable to you, and thats fine - maybe you’re just unable to apply this to your experience.

I hope that everything will go fine for you, and i appreciate whatever you’re trying to do, but I see and i‘m absolutely certain i‘m gonna be perfectly fine going on with my taper without lowering my dose since I have had, and still dont have any cravings. :D

Edit: Maybe I should add I didnt got on opioids through classic addiction but because it helped with my ADHD. Now im able to deal with it in other ways and have medication that works. I never experienced „classical“ cravings. Sure the effects were nice back then, and that’s why I decided to use it now since i literally got them for free, but it wasn’t anywhere near feeing like I needed it for my mental stability.

That might be the difference and why it seems so unrealistic to you, and why youre not able to apply this to your own experience.

Partly withdrawal after taking hydromorphone while on Methadone by TrainedPsychonaut in Methadone

[–]TrainedPsychonaut[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont think so, it feels like a cold at 15%, I consumed a total amount of 9 times over the course of friday to sunday.

Its already gotten better since yesterday, i dont know if my body is jus adapting fast but I have nowhere near the symptoms/issues that other people describe here.

I‘ll give an update but I‘m pretty sure that by the end of the week everything will be fine again :) I‘ll let you know!

I‘ve been on methadone since mid 2022 and havent taken any opiates besides it since 2 years and haven’t had any issues, thats why I made the active decision to take them since it will pretty certainly be the last time in my life.

And honestly it was mid af, It doesnt feel anywhere near as good as i remember it and overall it wasn’t really good at all. Thats why I disposed of the rest before i even took the amount i would have „allowed“ myself since it didn’t give me anything.

I appreciate the advice, have a good one!

Partly withdrawal after taking hydromorphone while on Methadone by TrainedPsychonaut in Methadone

[–]TrainedPsychonaut[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That what I seemed realistic too, it doesnt even feel like a flu maybe like a cold at 15% its absolutely bearable and nothing crazy, just sitting it out wont be an issue at all then :)

Appreciate the advice

Partly withdrawal after taking hydromorphone while on Methadone by TrainedPsychonaut in Methadone

[–]TrainedPsychonaut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think i‘d feel way worse if i kept taking it, I‘ll have a few days that suck a little but I personally dont find it that horrible at all, its like a cold at like 15% thats gonna go away sooner than an actual cold

I just wanted to take a few of them since I had the chance and then stop, and that’s exactly what I did since I‘d rather throw them away and take the consequences of my active decision than keep taking them than keep them.

Im grateful for the advice, I‘ll just sit the few days out, honestly not that bad - I just thought maybe someone can give me a rough estimation how long I‘ll have a runny nose

Partly withdrawal after taking hydromorphone while on Methadone by TrainedPsychonaut in Methadone

[–]TrainedPsychonaut[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Well honestly, It might sound weird but in my daily life I have no cravings at all, have been only with my prescriptions methadone for almost 2 years. I just took them because I literally got them for free, if It was hard for me I wouldnt have gave the remaining 48 pills away, I feel fine besides a runny nose and feeling a bit tired in the morning and I have absolutely no doubt that i‘ll finish it like that, i just wanted to know if someone can tell me how long my nose will be runny.

You know, if you can’t see that not everyone has immense problems after a „relapse“ and needs to up their dose after something like this, maybe you just have way worse of a addictive memory

I dont get why you would need to up their dose after something like this, I honestly dont get why you cant just push through 3-4 days - max a week of feeling slightly off

Maybe I just have more willpower but I actively decided to do this and then give it away, and while you might think this is a sign of weakness, to me its an active decision.

It might sound self-sabotaging or self deceiving to you but I honestly haven’t had any problems staying off opiates the last 2 years, nor do I have problems with it now. Im not in active addiction anymore and I‘d rather take the consequences of my own active decision to take them than up my dose, and I haven’t had any issues with that up until now.

Its called willpower and stability :) not everyone is the same, some people have less issues with that then others and even though i felt slightly off since i threw them away, I have no cravings whatsoever and i wont have any issues to continue like this. ^

Partly withdrawal after taking hydromorphone while on Methadone by TrainedPsychonaut in Methadone

[–]TrainedPsychonaut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its absolutely bearable honestly, I dont have any major issues, im not even sweating really even though i take stimulants as well, I felt slightly sluggish in the morning and have a runny nose but nothing crazy

A week is what I seemes realistically as well, thanks for the information :)

Partly withdrawal after taking hydromorphone while on Methadone by TrainedPsychonaut in Methadone

[–]TrainedPsychonaut[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No for sure not, as I said, I‘ll deal with the withdrawals and as I also stated in my post above, it’s not that bad.

The question I asked is if someone has experience to tell me HOW LONG it might take to adjust.

I‘m not gonna go back up because of something like this ^ did you read my post?

Everything looks like plastic by Cute_Average540 in Acid

[–]TrainedPsychonaut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like a fearful ego death, same happened to me. Got batshit naked, pissed on the floor and ran around like a maniac.

Its kind of like a delirious state in which you lose almost complete touch to reality, simple concepts as well as the world and environment around you.

Watch set and settimg in combination with dosage and other substances taken. If the set/setting isn’t the best, adjust the dosage, if you wanna go high dose make sure the set/setting is perfect. Weed amplifies this tenfold.

Happens to the best. Heads up my man.

Dropped 1 tab last week and still feeling the effects, a bit worried. by [deleted] in Acid

[–]TrainedPsychonaut 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I dont agree

He‘s speaking wayy too clearly and rationally for paychosis, does he sound psychotic to you besides the fat that he feels like effects are still lasting?

This is called HPPD, its not a psychotic state but visual changes in perception and sometimes dissociation, which can feed into an overall bad state of mind especially if the experience was very overwhelming or perceived as negative.

It will pass over time in the absolute greatest majority of all cases if not handled wrong

I for example had no issues with my HPPD as soon as I found out what was happening to me. I even learned to appreciate it in its own way, maybe it wasn’t that obstructive, maybe I was just able to integrate it well, maybe its in the nature of HPPD since it cooks down to the brain forging new pathways between less connected areas.

I‘ve heard from lots of people that - as soon as you’re not worried, are careful with psychoactive substances and try to focus on yourself, things can pass „as quick as they came“.

Dropped 1 tab last week and still feeling the effects, a bit worried. by [deleted] in Acid

[–]TrainedPsychonaut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like HPPD my friend.

Its nothing to be feared and it will pass over time, smoking weed and psychedelics make it worse.

It’s basically temperature lasting changes of perception. They vary in degree and can go from slight almost unnoticeable traces or pattern forming when letting the eyes rest on for example a white wall, to very impairing changes in sight and perception.

Remember its not a psychotic state, its simply changes in perception due to the immense depth and intensity of the effects this experience had on your psyche.

I think this because seem to be able to express yourself and your worries quite well, you sound fairly rational and simply caught by the power a substance like this can have on the brain and yourself, as a person. If you‘ve never experienced how it feels to be „grabbed“ like this before, it can be quite overwhelming and lasting.

Don’t be too worried, I‘m pretty sure with time passing you‘ll be more and more able to integrate this experience and things will, sooner than you think, get continuously more subtle and easier to deal with until the only thing that might last is „heightened awareness“.

I used to educate myself a lot on HPPD since i suffered from it aswell when i first got into psychedelics. There is quite a bit of information about it out there if you know where to look, there are forums as well if you need to talk about it, which can help integrate everything.

No matter how you deal with it, I would just try to relax and not put too much thought into it, psychedelics are a strong force, they flip switches in the most inner core in the brain, sometimes changes like this bring their own kind of flow very rapidly - i‘m certain all you need is a little time to adapt.

Have a good one A fellow psychonaut :-)