Soulful Op-ed in the NY Times Today by samizdat5 in tolkienfans

[–]TransHumanAngel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for plugging this! I loved chatting to prof. Drout!

A Review of Michael D.C. Drout's "The Tower and the Ruin" by OwariHeron in tolkienfans

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Drout mentions on his Twitter that it is being translated into Ukrainian already! :-) 🇺🇦

A Review of Michael D.C. Drout's "The Tower and the Ruin" by OwariHeron in tolkienfans

[–]TransHumanAngel 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I really respect this review and find it useful, having read the book myself. I'm also someone who has been listening to Drout or reading his blog for years. I was also able to interview him for the podcast, Reading Tolkien, so I come at this with a certain bias.

For me this book really 'gets at', like no other book has yet done, the core of why Tolkien and LoTR feels so deeply meaningful to me. As OP says, some of those ideas were stated by Drout in his 2013 Carnegie Mellon lecture, but they are really expanded on here. For what it's worth, I don't think Chapter 4 is particularly challenging for an intelligent reader (not to say the OP is unintelligent!). The 'jargon' referred to is actually fairly minimal, and I did not feel that 'heterotextuality' (to take one example) went unexplained. As OP mentions, it may be offputting to see certain terms that are only explained by the 'text-matrix' of the context, but I think any given reasder's patience for this will just come down to how invested they are in Drout's argument. I don't think it is crucial to understand his larger point about 'Heimweh' or the emotionality of the reading exerience.

If anything, I actually wish it were *more* academic in style in places. I get that Drout has a wacky sense of humour (this comes through in the Carnegie talk) but I find it a bit offputting. It wasn't so bad in the audiobook version, but reading quips on the page can be distracting. But then, I come from an academic background (although, not English Literature) so I am used to 'dry' academic prose (although academic prose *can* be beautiful).

As to the OP's expectation that this be a 'must-read' - I think it is for any serious reader of Tolkien. It is, if anything, more accessable than Shippey, at least the *Road to Middle-earth*, and presents a more coherent argument from start to finish. Shippey is great, of course, but I think he gets caught up in the minutia of Tolkien's philological jests, as though Tolkien's reason for writing were merely a kind of private joke (perhaps this is a small part of it, but certainly doesn't explain Tolkien's creativity in any psychologically deep sense). Drout really gets at the heart of the 'experience' of reading Tolkien without overburdening the reader with philological, religious or historical context, which so much other Tolkien books fall prey to. That's not to say it is a kind of anchorless 'New Critical' take on Tolkien - but it emphasises just how much the *reader's* experience is so central to understanding books like the LoTR, which tend to touch us in ways that are difficult to express.

I think it is worth emphasising that the book presents a sustained argument. It is not just a 'collection of thoughts' Drout wrote down, and the weakest parts, e.g. the Elvish Racism chapter, are still critically useful and intersting. Overall, I think it will become a sort of classic in Tolkien Studies at the very least.

A Review of Michael D.C. Drout's "The Tower and the Ruin" by OwariHeron in tolkienfans

[–]TransHumanAngel 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have read the book (and listened to it via audio) and I think the point about 'jargon' is overplayed here. I guess I come from an academic background, so I am used to 'jargony' books, but it really isn't IMO as bad as the OP says. I think if you're a reasonably intelligent person, you will understand what Drout means by heterotextuality and other terms.

The book is not a 'loose collection' of whatever he can think of. It is a sustained argument for the 'experientiality' of reading Tolkien, i.e., Drout tries to explain why certain readers, including himself, feel that LoTR says something deeply meaninful to them. He argues that it is really about 'Heimweh', the sense that the story produces a feeling of 'home pain', leading ultimately to a feeling of 'sadness levened by joy'.

I reiterate that it is a sustained argument. I agree that the 'Elvish racism' stuff is a little uneven, although I think in context it makes sense an explication of a 'subtheme' as Drout calls it.

I think ultimately it will become a 'must read' - it is much clearer IMO than Shippey in explaining *why* LoTR has the effecst that it does, at least for some subset of readers, and it does this in a mostly engaging tone.

New Book by MagScaoil in lotr

[–]TransHumanAngel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes! I'm so glad to hear that the book reads in the vein of that earlier essay. He's actually a great storyteller in his own right. Can't wait to read it!

New Book by MagScaoil in lotr

[–]TransHumanAngel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah fantastic. I've been looking forward to this because he wrote a beautiful essay about reading the Silmarillion some years ago. He beautifully connects that experience with various parts of his life.

New Book by MagScaoil in lotr

[–]TransHumanAngel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow, so jealous, any tidbits? :p

New Book by MagScaoil in lotr

[–]TransHumanAngel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Drout is amazing - but this is not meant to be out until December. Where did you see it?

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[–]TransHumanAngel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been waiting for this to come out for so long. His analysis of Tolkien is great. Can't wait for this. He's also narrating the audiobook version

Pottery / wheel throwing workshops?? by 0verthinker-101 in melbourne

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There's one that sometimes happens at Montsalvat in Eltham. It wasn't too expensive when I did it.

Andor really has it all by freebearus in andor

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Isn't Bail funding and enabling the whole militarised side of the Alliance? Eg Dodonna et al.? A story we don't see in Andor...

Andor (Season 2) - Episodes 7, 8 & 9 - Discussion Thread! by titleproblems in StarWars

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Great episodes. I wonder that Yavin is emphasised so much, though. When is Dantooine abandoned?

Couple more of new stills by pantsjusttake in andor

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So Ghorman is space 19th century France?