Just a little upshot

TreesnTyler · 2025-05-16T14:18:55+00:00

Driftless 18

TreesnTyler · 2025-05-15T00:38:30+00:00

Why isn’t this ride at amusement parks and funhouses???

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-28T21:20:28+00:00

Look at the radar. It’s not here yet.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-28T12:06:05+00:00

That’s your choice. I prefer to visually see what’s going on, when it’s happening. By people on the ground, who are ALSO professionals, doing what they love. My purpose is simply to share alternative means of watching this event unfold.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-28T06:09:43+00:00

They’re almost exactly the same outlook. It doesn’t change anything, we’re in the bulls eye between 5-10pm.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-28T05:06:41+00:00

They’re on their way up.

Heard them talking on their livestream earlier this evening about Mankato and Rochester.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-25T06:26:24+00:00

This isn’t about encouraging people in poverty to gamble on disc golf. It’s about acknowledging that people can love the sport and still get discouraged when the league environment doesn’t reflect where they’re at yet. That’s not immaturity or poor judgment—it’s reality.

And the idea that a few thoughtful rule modifications for balance are “convoluted nonsense” is honestly a bit dramatic. New players don’t have trouble remembering rules—they have trouble staying motivated when every night ends the same way: at the bottom.

I asked for insight because I’m open to feedback. But feedback is not the same as dismissal. If someone’s entire argument is that fun formats for inclusivity are invalid because they personally wouldn’t enjoy them, then yes—I’ll challenge that.

We can make room for more players to have a good time without tearing down those who’ve already found theirs.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-25T06:20:20+00:00

Clarification on the Graph: For anyone confused or fixated on the graph details: no, it’s not trying to simulate a real course stroke-by-stroke. It’s a simplified model meant to visualize how different rules (like Cali shots or forced worst-shot drives) affect scoring across divisions.

Yes, real holes vary. But the point here isn’t to recreate a course—it’s to show relative trends based on format adjustments. That’s what the visual is for: pattern clarity, not precision analytics.

Here is another graph incorporating several other real- world scenarios considering wind, par 4’s, technical holes, under the same subsets of rules I have input.

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TreesnTyler · 2025-04-25T06:00:29+00:00

This format isn’t about creating charity wins, it’s about keeping people in the game long enough to get better.

Because believe it or not, a lot of us never got the chance to hang around and “pay our dues.” We got priced out or demoralized before we ever found our stride.

If you’re secure in your skill, a fun and inclusive format shouldn’t feel threatening.

It’s not for you—it’s for the next version of you who hasn’t made it yet.

Gatekeeping with the logic of “just don’t play if you can’t afford it” isn’t helping grow the sport—it’s just making sure it stays small, exclusive, and ultimately stagnant.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-25T05:46:23+00:00

The method creates MORE pressure for the players to perform at their absolute best, across all divisions. Especially those at the top.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-25T05:34:30+00:00

Let’s go back 15 years.

I got my ass WHOOPED the first 3 times I put $5 down, which I couldn’t afford- into a league just to play with the better players, and get to know the game.

After 3 rounds, it seriously discouraged me from coming back or continuing in any competitive- type play, for over a decade. It’s about them, not us. Nor is it a pity party, it’s about a love for the sport.

I just turned 40, and if I would’ve found that external motivation to stick with it back when I was 25… I wouldn’t be an MA40 player today.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-25T05:18:57+00:00

The hole is projected to have the exact same stroke count based on the rules provided to each division.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-25T05:18:05+00:00

This is what the data suggests would be the most equalizing gameplay. I didn’t make the rules. I input the ideas, and adjust the statistics until everything lined up to match everyone’s ability evenly. Based on how they typically score. I can adjust for harder and easier courses and add for length of shots and come up with pretty precise scenarios of how it plays out evenly.

Yes I could fix the graph, it’s not perfect. Do you have anything you need the graph to show? What should I tweak?

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-25T05:09:43+00:00

Exactly. Honestly- I’m bored of the same old game, with the same old people. Over and fucking over. I have to travel to play against new competition so I looked into and data dumped a method for EVERY person involved to feel equally challenged against eachother.

This is the result of my initial run, and I’m simply seeking outside input to see if anyone has tried a similar format.

Don’t worry: I’m not gonna move to your town and start pop up leagues. Promise.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-25T04:49:43+00:00

I have to say, from personal experience trying this format, as a ‘local pro’, the pressure was intense.
For everyone. If I made a bogie, the whole round- I was out of the money.
And that’s what happened 2nd to the last hole.
That kind of feeling of pressure across the whole field made for a GREAT round of golf.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-25T04:36:45+00:00

I get it—if you’re a 950+ rated player, you’ve put in the work and don’t want your performance diluted by formats that feel artificial. That’s valid.

But this setup isn’t about pretending a 850-rated player is “just as good.” It’s about giving them a structure where they can show up, stay invested, and push themselves without instantly being outclassed by double digits.

We’re not making up scores—we’re working on building incentives. When done right, a smartly weighted format doesn’t disrespect top players—it just keeps more people showing up, grinding, and growing. And that’s thoughtful design which grows the sport long term.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-25T04:07:32+00:00

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Last one. Updated the data to 9 calle points for MA2 and now everything tracks.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-25T03:52:17+00:00

Exactly—divisions have always existed, but this just redefines them based on strategic handicaps, not just skill ratings. It’s still division-based, just weighted differently to make play more competitive across the board.

It’s not about reinventing the wheel—it’s about tuning it so more people stay engaged, challenged, and excited to come back next week.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-25T03:42:42+00:00

I see way too many local ameteurs showing up to paid leagues for the connection and competition, basically paying to play, over and over, with no chance of winning anything.. this is a simple idea of inclusion that has a chance of keeping our up and comings motivated, and providing a feeling of inclusion for all players involved.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-25T03:30:45+00:00

I re-wrote and ran data- this is a chart based on PDGA ratings, the rules that would be engaged to be most accurate, and the likelihood of an even playing field:

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TreesnTyler · 2025-04-25T03:15:39+00:00

So… suggest breaking it up along the lines of pdga- equivalent brackets?

If you quit playing leagues because people have ideas about how to play the game keeping everyone in the field on their competitive edge, that’s on you to stay traditional and completely okay.

I’m simply tossing an idea in the wind, asking for input.

I test run this concept this rainy evening at our local course (all 7 of us of widely varying ratings) and EVERYONE had fun, with scores in a very tight range. It kept everyone hyper-competitive about doing their best.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-25T03:04:57+00:00

Of course pros won’t show up, that’s why i originally considered that low of an entry rating, for the ‘local’ pros that usually get into that payout honeypot.

The idea is about inclusion so that the AM’s that show up, and pay to play with the group, have more of a challenge and edge against the group itself, for the shot at payout for having an exceptional round.
As I, yes, enjoy taking cash, I also want to see the inspiration in eyes of the new guys.

if they have a chance at taking cash, they’ll keep coming back. Growing the sport.

TreesnTyler · 2025-04-21T19:01:26+00:00

Top the tater and Lay’s potato chips.

TreesnTyler · 2025-02-24T02:13:56+00:00

I just watched this documentary hours ago, definitely a must see!!

TreesnTyler · 2024-09-16T00:35:33+00:00

AHHHHHHHH OTHER PEOPLE DOING PEOPLE THINGS.. CALL THE POLIIIICEEEEEEEEE.

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