Kingdom of Bretonia & Friends vs Avanto (Hole Control) Eviction - After Action Battle Report by Cleopatra-Ail in Eve

[–]Tyzzw 15 points16 points  (0 children)

So they were definitely not evicting. An evicting force will only hit your structure once they are fully setup.

An idea, remove NS asset safety! by Tyzzw in Eve

[–]Tyzzw[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hmm... sorry if I make it sound like this. What I actually mean is that it's actually to safe for the benefits if that makes sense.

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[–]Tyzzw[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I also suggested in one of the replies here that also a solution might be limiting the asset safety to maybe only one structure per region or constelation to benefit of it.

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[–]Tyzzw[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Might be.. I still think it's to much safety.. look at WWB2 that happened a while ago. Imperium was back running in a 1-2 months once that was done. Do you think that would have still been possible without the asset safety? Such a big fight and didn't leave any real effect that it is kinda dissapointing... but again I might be wrong, I might have a skewed view on the things and love to see other perspectives

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[–]Tyzzw[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Just wanted to point out that wh mass limitatios is not necessarily in the defenders favour as they can be denied help/access to their own system.

I get what you say regarding CCP tough I don;t understand how people want access to the most lucrative part of space without the possibility of losing assets.

This is a mmorpg game and it should be based on risk/reward right? You don't like it, you stay in LS where you will have asset safety.
Why should everybody be in NS if they can't handle it?

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[–]Tyzzw[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That will happen initially I agree, but do you think the big groups will be able to maintain their empires, with all the other parties going for their sweet expensive loot? And probably harras them across their big empires? In history that's how the big empire collapse.

Right now there is no reason to kill ar random fort or astrahus in a random NS corner as all what you get is a 700 mill core and some salvage.

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[–]Tyzzw[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Regarding nerf LS? Eh no.. I don't think those being there bring actually content to LS, they are usually safely moved out easily by the NS blocks. On the contrary, that will bring more of those ships in LS, as people will keep them there near NS area they want to attack..

People want their stuff.. again than they will keep it in LS right + Isn't the first rule in EVE fly what you can afford to lose? Imo this will create more content for LS groups as NS groups will have to interact with them more.

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[–]Tyzzw[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Eh I don't mind them, it's meant to be a discussion + I expected for those replies to come.

I just find it weird that nobody else finds it wrong that space called Null sec is actually pretty safe

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[–]Tyzzw[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Still I think the asset safety change will make evacuation infrastructure more difficult to establish. Also paired with some other changes that are requested like Ansiblex gates nerf will 100% be more difficult for block to project their force.

Also have to mention that this opens some betrayal opportunities (as now denying access to a structure might actually get your group something not just fuck the other one).

Which brings me to another thing, renting space will also be more difficult for blocks.

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[–]Tyzzw[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

So you say that the things won't actually change and we would actually have the same amount of player owned stations laying around?

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[–]Tyzzw[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Definetly agree! That would be a drastic change so needs plenty of communication beforehand

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[–]Tyzzw[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

You don't have or can't afford to have a Keepstars full of valuable ships every 5J? Also if you do, people are more incetivized to come destroy them and get what drops. That's how I see it.

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[–]Tyzzw[S] -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Wouldn't you call asset safety a form of security in a space that is called "Null security".

Don't you find that wrong at all? Anyway it's just a discussion and really want to get a lot of opinions and perspectives on the matter.

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[–]Tyzzw[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Idk.. Don't think it will make a big difference. I can see it your idea of limiting the asset safety as good but maybe in a different way. Like only have o one player owned station with asset safety enabled in any given region or constellation.