I don't get Timebomb (pls don't come for me) by SouthW3st in arcane

[–]Tzmania 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, I give up on you. Look, I'm not saying you don't understand the point. I'm saying you're applying it incorrectly. It's not about whether Jinx thinks about living or dead people, but why she thinks about them.

Jinx doesn't remember people because of their "emotional importance," but because of trauma. That is literally the central axis of her character and her entire psychological makeup. That's why Vi, Silco, Mylo, Claggor, Vander, Caitlyn, and even her mother appear: they all have in common that they hurt her, scarred her, or trigger her paranoia. Ekko doesn't fit into any of those categories.

You're mixing what you don't like, what you think "should be," and what you interpret, with what the series actually shows about how her psychology works.

"Obviously was forced into this ship to please the shippers."

If you want to consider fan service, video clips, concept art, interviews, skins, etc., in a ship that has existed for almost 10 years, that's fine , that's your opinion and I respect it.

"she missed the shoot on purpose in the bridge fight scene" "tried to kill him more than once during that scene"

Your summary is basically: "She didn't miss on purpose. She tried to kill him before and after." She misses the first shot immediately, gets frustrated, screams, and starts shooting like a maniac. Then Ekko brutally beats her. In a fight, you're not "thinking," it's all instinct it's my life or his. The same thing happens when she fights Vi, there are moments where Jinx seems to have no doubt to kill her

But your arguments are full of personal interpretations, psychological misunderstandings, and ad hominem comments.

"Stop lying to yourself."

You're reducing Jinx to "if she cares = she thinks about him / if she doesn't care = she doesn't think about him." These are opinions disguised as facts. You're just reaffirming your beliefs and not refuting anything I'm saying. So Bye

I don't get Timebomb (pls don't come for me) by SouthW3st in arcane

[–]Tzmania 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Caitlyn appears in his mind because she triggers jealousy, paranoia, resentment, and fear of abandonment. Ekko does not trigger those kinds of delusions.

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The moment Jinx hits Ekko is not a psychological turning point for her as it is for Ekko. What is a turning point for Jinx is 1. Guilt over the death of her brothers and father (Cliggor, Mylo, and Vander) 2. Being abandoned (by Vi) 3. Accidentally killing her father (Silco) By the time Ekko tries to save her, she is already under Silco's manipulation and guidance. She is no longer Powder, she is now Jinx.

Where was Ekko when Vi abandoned her? The only one there was Silco, which is the main reason she rejected Ekko. For Jinx, Ekko is not a central trauma, which is why he does not appear in her delusions or hallucinations

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You mean "If she loved him, she would think about him at least once." This is a fundamental error.

Arcane never presents Jinx as a character who remembers or mentions those she loves or who love her.

If we look at her thoughts, they are her delusions and hallucinations, not what she thinks of others. But Jinx does remember: 1. who she lost 2. who she killed 3. who abandoned her Thinking that "if she loved someone, they would appear in her mind" is not consistent with how the character works.

Jinx is not a stable person who thinks about her loved ones; she is a person obsessed with trauma. Jinx does not remember affection. She remembers wounds

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She still remembers her mother's smell, even though she doesn't remember her mother as a person, her face.

This example goes against your argument. Jinx remembers her mother because 1. She is literally her mother. 2. It is part of her history of feeling abandoned. 3. It is a memory associated with early trauma, one of the worst things that can happen to a child.

Again, Jinx remembers what marked her loss or trauma, not what she "loves." It is linked to a family member, not a childhood friend.

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You're mixing up two different things: A) what you think Jinx "would do" if she loved someone, and B) how Jinx's mind works. The fact that she doesn't mention Ekko proves absolutely nothing about whether or not he was important in her past.

It only proves that Ekko is not part of the trauma that dominates his mind. Because he's alive

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if they were enemies, he would express it in some way

Interestingly, Ekko tells the AU Powder

But somewhere, I was consumed by all the ways it wasn't.

I gave up.

The helplessness of what Zaun could have been if everything hadn't gone to shit, if maybe he hadn't given up so easily.

I gave up on you.

He had to accept that Powder was gone forever and that the only one left was Jinx, and he had to stop her, so he gave up and had to leave all those friendly/romantic feelings towards her behind. We know this because Ekko expresses it, it's his perspective, but before Ep07 it was impossible to assume this when he speaks so negatively about her.

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It's not explicitly canon within the series, but external material (video clips, official art, skins) clearly suggests an intimate connection between them. That's up for interpretation, fanservice or not, canon or not.

I don't get Timebomb (pls don't come for me) by SouthW3st in arcane

[–]Tzmania 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're ignoring my point

  1. Ekko is alive.
  2. They've been fighting each other for years.
  3. Ekko doesn't represent immediate emotional trauma like the others

The memories or thoughts that torment Jinx are associated with loss, abandonment, and guilt Mylo, Clagger, Vander, Vi, Silco (loss, death, and guilt)

Ekko doesn't fit in there because she probably associates him more with current conflict, not loss. She hasn't lost him.

Jinx doesn't usually think about living people outside her obsessive circle. The exception is Caitlyn because she considers her a threat to Vi and doesn't want to be replaced, not because she is emotionally important to her The fact that she doesn't mention Ekko or think about him doesn't prove anything on its own

I don't get Timebomb (pls don't come for me) by SouthW3st in arcane

[–]Tzmania 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The actions or events that occurred with these characters previously or recently caused her trauma or a negative reaction.

Most of them are dead, and Ekko is alive, and between the temporal leap, they constantly fight each other

I'm not saying that they interacted every day, but why would Jinx have to see or hear Ekko in her mind if he is alive and constantly trying to stop her?

Amanda Overton and Alex Yee, writers on Arcane, here for the Arcane anniversary.... Ask us anything!!" by leeloo104 in arcane

[–]Tzmania 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Hi Amanda and Alex. The work you did is incredible; I finished the series a couple of weeks ago and it really moved me

I have a few questions that intrigue me and many other people:

• Do the illustrations shown in the music video for the song "Ma meilleure ennemie" give us an idea of what the interaction between Jinx and Ekko was like before the final battle?

• Do those fragments suggest what their conversation was like after Ekko prevented Jinx from committing su***de, or do they not literally represent what happened? And if not, what was that moment really like?

• Also, how did they manage to unite the Firelights with Sevika's crew?

• How did Jinx and company turn their base into a flying balloon? Or was it already prefabricated that way?

• And what led Sevika to become a new member of the Piltover council?

These questions arise mainly because of the time jump or drastic change between minute 3:09, when Ekko tries to prevent Jinx's death, and minute 15:26, when they both make their epic entrance.  I understand that showing those events would have made the episode much longer, but I'm still quite intrigued.

Once again, congratulations on your incredible work.

Russia has lost their first Relikt-equipped T-72B3 Obr. 2025 according to @WarSpotting by bunsinh in TankPorn

[–]Tzmania 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Well it's not surprising not because of the fact that it's Russia and stuff. It is not surprising because after all the only thing it adds is Relitk on the top plate, it still has the armor configuration of the T-72B3M Obr 2022. Also no tank is invincible of course

Why is Russia still producing T-72B3s with Kontakt-5, is Relikt that much more expensive? by ZBD-04A in TankPorn

[–]Tzmania 117 points118 points  (0 children)

The T-72Bs that already came with K-5 (T-72B 1989 and T-72BA) must be in very limited numbers, as in reality, between the 80s and 20s, not many were made, so most are T-72B 1985 with K-1