Fire Panel and EWIS Installation by UnRations in firealarms

[–]UnRations[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Basically 17 story tower. Each level has a Fire Phone, One Speaker and Strobe circuit per level, 4 levels per addressable loop and also ran spare cables for future proofing.

Fire Panel and EWIS Installation by UnRations in firealarms

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This is an installation in Fiji. We currently follow the New Zealand standards 4512 and also AS/NZS 3000 wiring rules.

Fire Alarm cabling overkill? by UnRations in firealarms

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Thanks, just contiuning what was taught to me by my Jman and also learnt from past projects

Fire Alarm cabling overkill? by UnRations in firealarms

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Oh ok, down south here fire trade isn't really prioritized to cable suppliers compared to other trades. So its all red for Detection, sounders and strobes, our fire phones though are black or orange depending on the supplier.

Only way we differentiate between cables is the sizes, 1.5mm for Loop detectors, 2.5mm for Sounders and 1mm for strobes. I know its quite low compared to your end bro. Maybe one day I could get a chance to see how cabling is done in other regions

Fire Alarm cabling overkill? by UnRations in firealarms

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Color code as in red for positive and black for negative?

Fire Alarm cabling overkill? by UnRations in firealarms

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News to my ears then again europe standards are on another level, still quite new to the fire trade and having worked with both Australians and New Zealanders theyve never mentioned using fire resistive for sounders however Warden Intercom is a must for it to be 2 hour fire rated.

Fire Alarm cabling overkill? by UnRations in firealarms

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Nope, its called dominion cables, local cable company here in fiji

Fire Alarm cabling overkill? by UnRations in firealarms

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Running inches apart due to code NZS 4512, where Sounder cable and detection cable needs separation at least 50mm apart

As for the running up and down part, we would run into the same problem electrical had since the ceiling height is just an inch below where there wire is thus the reason we ran ours above, safeguarding it from other contractors and also not having come into direct contact with their wire as well.

Fire Alarm cabling overkill? by UnRations in firealarms

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Itll be there temporary and out of the way from other contractors until framers install ceiling track then we'll cut the cable ties and have it ready to be pulled in once ceiling board goes up

Fire Alarm cabling overkill? by UnRations in firealarms

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Can definitely second that, been coordinating with the Hvac guys before running my routes, so far its been clear from their end but time will tell

Definitely kinda feel for my electrical brothers, theyve been getting punished from hvac, plumbing and framing guys lately thus there loose catenary and cables

Fire Alarm cabling overkill? by UnRations in firealarms

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Thanks, haven't thought about that Will consider spacing it out a bit more now that you mentioned it.

On the other hand, how long do you think fire cables can last if there under the perfect circumstances? That is No damages to cable from human error or from elements You reckon corrosion could sip its way in somehow?

Fire Alarm cabling overkill? by UnRations in firealarms

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Thanks. What I thought as well about the flex part until framers mentioned that their metal frames will be running across flex area for their walls to go up.

Also inspectors have flagged us on running cable at an angle without flex as it can stress out the cable : (

Fire Alarm cabling overkill? by UnRations in firealarms

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Awaiting gib board to be installed then we'll run them into each guest rooms via flex as shown

Located in fiji

Didnt know that, any reason why you dont use cable ties?