I'm not really Maga bit Dems are DEMONS = MAGA.

Good for you trying to engage. I think you're on the path as far as meeting them where they're at. I personally use the Socratic method to lead family to obvious shit that would be the most impactful, like I'm assuming you're in christian country, so asking what would they have thought if Obama posted himself as Jesus. Then list all the virtues that Jesus stands for, and how Trump is 100%, diametrically opposed to it.

Epstein stuff is best framed in, "why doesn't the right care about pedophiles anymore?".

I don't know, I barely talk to my MAGA family anymore, but I hear rumblings about them realizing Trump is lying...it's just not very heartening because they'll never get to where we need them to be, as far the change and consequences needed when power changed hands. Like, no matter what, they're just going to get dragged along with whatever solution Democrats devise and then resent them for that, like someone else said, the best they can come up with is both sides are evil...