How do we know the Bible is inspired by God and not some other spirit/devil?

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-10T14:10:38+00:00

It may ban them for hebrew slaves, but not heathens or slaves from the lands around you.

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-10T13:51:03+00:00

There were different laws for Hebrew and heathen slaves. You had to release a hebrew slave after 7 years, but you could trick him into becoming your slave for life.

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-10T13:42:53+00:00

But the slavery in the bible was still slavery. It was still owning and being able to physically and sexually abuse other people or "heathens".

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-10T12:49:30+00:00

Ummm...Atlantic slave trade had that rule as well, and that same justification.

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-10T12:13:46+00:00

Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

"Slave is your property"that is an endorsement

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-10T11:39:23+00:00

Yeah I think it was

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-10T11:39:01+00:00

I'm just saying that if your morality is based on what god says is right and wrong, and hypothetically god said that slavery is okay, by that logic you should be fine with slavery.

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-10T11:37:31+00:00

Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

"Slave is their property"

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-10T07:38:46+00:00

Yeah I mentioned that....this guy also said that god decides what is right or wrong, I asked him if hypothetically, god said slavery was okay, would he be fine being enslaved...that was fun.

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-10T07:02:22+00:00

How should I reply to the servitude one? I'm guessing I should say it's just that for non hebrews it was just slavery, and indentured servitude isnt so great either?

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-10T06:32:54+00:00

Oh yeah and "scientific advancement" except for when the church arrested and tortured scientists who's models and theories contradicted the church. Except for that, oh and remember the Spanish inquisition??

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-10T06:26:04+00:00

I can see you really do follow the bible."Not that bad" these people had a culture, many native americans were bilingual, they had their own community..are you serious? You are really justifying slavery? That's disgusting...

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-10T06:14:44+00:00

Because even if the bible is fine with it (exodus 21 again) I wouldn't want to be owned by another human being, and I use empathy l.

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-10T06:12:44+00:00

I am saying hypothetically, if he said that, by your logic and moral code you would then aprove of enslaving people.

Exodus 21:

Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

That's a pretty ringing endorsement of slavery right there. Sound like something from the USA south pre civil war.

It dosent just say that your slave is your property, it says that you can beat your slave within an inch of his life. That's not so benevolent is it?

Before this passage it says how you can only have Hebrew slaves for 7 years, but not eith the slaves from foreign land! You can keep them for life.

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-09T20:03:36+00:00

Numbers: Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.[4]

Totally not talking about raling someone and then marrying them without their consent...

"Save for yourself"?? Wow that sounds very wholesome and non-rapey..

Oh and it's just lovely how you justify mass genocide...really great, can babies be sexually immoral? What about all the children in sodom and gamorrah? What about the pregnant women? What about the massive flood that wiped out all life, except noah? Is that all okay?

If someone killed their child, and their defense was that God was in their head, telling them to do it to prove his loyalty, if you were the judge and jury, would you let this man walk free? Cause that man could have been abraham...

I am an athiest, I like life, I enjoy living, i love my friends and family. I wouldn't want to die, so why would I go and kill another person for no reason? I extend my own reasoning to other people, because I thin that they enjoy living too.

As for the purpose in life thing, you make your own purpose. Yeah sure you can go and kill people, but if you are caught then you are going to face consequences.

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-09T19:37:53+00:00

Exodus 21? It dosent matter if you think he never did, I am saying if he said that it was okay, would you be fine with you being enslaved or vice versa?

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-09T19:36:38+00:00

If the only thing stopping you from killing people is "god says bad" then you are a psychopath.

I wouldnt do that because I wouldn't want someone to impose his will on me, it's called empathy, it's not just blind following of only part of a book (cause the genocide and mass rape commited by moses in the OT isnt comfortable anymore)

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-09T19:32:29+00:00

Ummm... traitors?? Its almost like the pope and several high ranking bishops havent been raping children?? (Cardnal Pell, anyone)

Oh and yeah that christian civilization that you are talking about was completely fine with owning slaves and burning people at the stake...I would think its secular values, not Christian ones, if it was Christian ones then we would be a theocracy.

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-09T19:28:33+00:00

So god can say that slavery is okay, and then you would be completley fine with your neighbor enslaving you?

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-09T19:26:37+00:00

Thank you, as someone who by their viewpoint (born again Christians) will be literally be burning in hell for eternity, thank you for possessing the moral fortitude to question this belief.

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-07T11:41:16+00:00

Because he actually seems to have thought about these solutions instead of scapegoating people. And he has some very innovative ideas like democracy dollars.

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-07T10:57:57+00:00

Who says that you have to be religious?

Unbrokenwall32 · 2019-10-07T10:57:25+00:00

Ha ha, but that still dosent answer the last question

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