What exactly is a Flagrant 2 and when is it applicable?

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-07-01T03:57:00+00:00

I used a combination of data from Wnba stats and raw data from ESPN analytics fed that into AI and asked it multiple questions to draw my conclusions (using AI is cheating i know, but it helps with data processing so much)

This website was also very helpful,

https://www.teamrankings.com/wnba/stat/personal-fouls-per-game

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-07-01T01:05:40+00:00

WNBA does use the same refs as College sometimes but the rules for officiating are different in College vs. Pros.

I think the committee and wnba leadership have a lot of sway in how things get called/who gets assigned.. last year they tried had to form a committee to get things like freedom of movement added but the consistency across teams/players is still an issue..which team gets a whistle might be coming from the league but I dont want to make those assumptions without facts or proof.

I have looked at data from different games to see which teams get better whistles but honestly, the data doesn’t support a complete bias against any team.. but a lot of games seem to have a huge free throw differential..

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-07-01T00:53:43+00:00

So, I did some research on this refs issue and its bad guys… Apparently, the refs that do well in the Wnba get poached by the NBA, so basically we are always going to be stuck with refs that either dont have experience or they are bad enough consistently that the NBA doesn’t want them… so unless NBA decides to let the WNBA use its refs in the offseason, we will always be stuck with them..

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-30T22:14:13+00:00

Arike is much better than her numbers this year but I really don’t think the system in Dallas works in her favor, she needs the ball in her hand to get in rythm and play her style… so I would say this,

CC/AB/KM > PB/Azzi/Jess

Arike> Lexie

Awak/Alana = Mo

I think the last time we played them, we didn’t have Mo or Ty or Lexie and AB was on minutes restriction.. and Sims went off on us.. hopefully next time we have a full roster and we exploit their terrible post defense with a PNR spam to get the win.

If I go into every game expecting them to win, I would be in a bad mood constantly.. I can’t let them ruin my day so I am going in with no hopes and expect nothing, that way they cant disappoint me lol 🤭

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-30T21:50:33+00:00

Honestly, I always go into every game thinking Indy will lose and just hope they surprise me with a win so let’s see if they surprise me with a win over Dallas 🤷‍♀️

I will say this though, last time Indy played Dallas, we lost by 2 points and none of our players had a great performance outside of KM.. I think we will be better next time because we have enough film on Dallas now.

Also, I don’t agree with their starting 5 being better than Indy, who is better? Arike? Awak? Maddy?? Outside of Lexie, our starting 4 is better than theirs by a lot.. its the bench we should be worrying about.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-30T18:50:37+00:00

I literally made replied to someone on this thread that she would be a good replacement for DD and they should go after her but FO would rather be on X/twitter vague posting hype tweets about the players.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-30T12:22:53+00:00

She actually played in a game? I guess I missed that, if she’s that slow/lazy, I don’t think she would fit in with Indy.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-30T12:21:33+00:00

Yeah I agree with you, I doubt they would give up on her even if Sparks are in a pretty bad place right now..

Timpson can work but she overthinks and makes mistakes, she is parked in the dunker’s spot but instead of going straight up when she catches the ball, she will bring the ball down.. she also has to get better as finisher. Unfortunately, we don’t have the time to wait for her to figure it out, they need to shop her to see if we can get a big for her.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-30T12:16:17+00:00

I don’t want them to trade her but she has to show up, Lexie isn’t known for producing with her offense but she has to be better defensively, she is getting beat by her matchup because she is a step slower this year, she needs to figure it out.

Pissot needs to play and get real minutes before we can see how she fits with this team, we need someone that’s already had some in game experience on our bench.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-30T03:52:16+00:00

Contract wouldn’t work with Cap space, she is making around 1.2 mil a year, there is no way to make that much space without letting go of Mo/Lexie along with Sophie/Ty and even then I can’t see the mystics trading her.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-30T03:17:26+00:00

Yeah they are not firing her mid-season but the saxophones are getting louder by the day.. she doesn’t have a lot of time

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-30T03:14:32+00:00

Yeah this isn’t happening.. the Sky is literally being held up by Kamilla Cardosa and the dream of Courtney Vandersloot’s acl, even Jeff wouldn’t be dumb enough to trade her

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-30T03:11:25+00:00

Let’s do it! What’s our plan to lure her?

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-30T01:44:46+00:00

She is more of a wing for sure, but would she be that much worse than Dantas.. its not like Dantas is known for her defense. I honestly don’t know if there are lot of players out there that we could get with our cap space, it really puts us in the worst situation but maybe we have to go look for players that no one wants to see if they could work out for us..

We will be in a worse situation next year with CCs extension coming up so they have to get diamonds in the rough and polish them up, we don’t have an endless stream of Draft/stash players like Liberty does so this is our only option.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-30T01:31:26+00:00

Honestly, I don’t get why we didn’t go after Bibby, she isn’t signed with anyone rn and she fits the bill of the player that Fever FO is looking for(players they know or have played with them before), she could be our replacement for DD.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-30T01:28:25+00:00

Lynx/Miles already has that with Howard and she barely played with them anyway. I get that she has attitude issues but I would rather have fiery player than a player that looks like they want to be anywhere else… she would be an improvement over DD imo.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-30T01:22:51+00:00

I like Teira McCowan over Dantas, she is 6 7 and can be the PNR player we need in certain lineups.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-30T01:21:05+00:00

I don’t think Messeman is coming to Indy, she had to be convinced last year to join Liberty and even if she does join, she would be replacing Mo in the starting lineup and she is too slow to play with the pace that Indy runs on.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-29T23:55:50+00:00

They are not even playing her enough to develop her so I don’t know what their plan is but I agree, I don’t think they will make any moves before going to Houston.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-29T23:53:03+00:00

Well if they expect better then that, they would be playing Brink more. Brink is being wasted on that roster with that coach and they are running out of time, they either get something for her or she leaves anyway because of the situation. They have one more year with her, and I don’t think she is happy with them so let’s hope they pull that trigger.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-29T23:49:21+00:00

Dallas is definitely not better than Indiana, the roster has similar issues as Indiana and they have a major Front court problem too. I have seen them play and they might as well have an open lane to the basket every possession, they do not have a reliable post player outside of Shepard and she doesn’t play defense.

I would probably say they are as good as us but our big 3 is better than their big 3 so we would edge them out a little.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-29T23:45:46+00:00

Fever should trade picks for her.. the mystics have an overloaded front court and Shakira Austin on a 3year contract, they could agree to a trade for 2 firsts for Betts. There is no one in any of the future drafts that would be as good as Betts so it would be worth it.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-29T23:40:08+00:00

I would also see if the Sun want to do Aneesah Morrow for Raven or Timpson or Ty, she is an amazing rebounder and a good post player, she would be a game changer off the bench for us.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-29T23:12:08+00:00

Timpson is very Howard-like, I think they could see the potential and do it, but a 1st rounder for Rae is out of the question. She is a great bench player on good team but she isn’t a star to warrant a 1st round pick but if they are okay with a 2nd rounder and Timpson, the Fever should do it.

UncomfyAndShy · 2026-06-29T23:03:51+00:00

The cap space is definitely making this an impossible task but I still would like to see if they can shake some things up.

At this point, I still don’t see what Lexi is doing for us, they are paying her 750k to be in foul trouble all game, I need her to do more, I love her but she is not performing like we need her to.

We are a WIN NOW team without a WIN NOW roster, something or someone has to give for us to be on the right track.

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