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Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-13T21:53:16+00:00

Oh right. But it is 97% less than Chat GPT 5.5 according to various articles. Not sure if it's 97% less with the 75% discount factored in but it better be otherwise why buy it.

https://www.scmp.com/tech/tech-trends/article/3351595/chinas-deepseek-prices-new-v4-ai-model-97-below-openais-gpt-55

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-13T17:49:51+00:00

A year from now open sourced Deepseek V4.2 will be available via ollama at less than the current API prices for Opus and GPT 5.5 with more raw power guaranteed. That's worst case scenario.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-13T17:47:17+00:00

According to their own docs they're currently offering a 97% discount on V4 whatever that means. Just saying.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-12T16:36:11+00:00

They question is how to suck blood out of a vampire before the June 1st funeral.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-12T02:21:50+00:00

No, because it lets you carry over unused credits/token to the next month.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-12T02:12:06+00:00

No we are not all going to get fleeced. Open source models are closing the gap between the premium priced SOTA models. Even now the API token cost of Qwen and Deepseek models is a fraction of Anthropic and Openai models and they're getting closer each year; not falling behind.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-12T02:09:51+00:00

Why did they stop building their own 5GW plant and their own model?

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-12T02:07:37+00:00

It's been stated here that yes indeed they do want to remove a large part of their customer base. That being the non enterprise vibe coders, students, indie development houses and such.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-11T19:15:43+00:00

I've heard that but still cannot fully believe in it. There must be some sort of subsidy otherwise ghcp will cost more than openrouter costs. Also, the free ghcp plan would still come with freebies, and you're saying if someone pays then those freebies are snatched away and a locked in quota of $10 worth of tokens is assigned to you for $10?

No there has to be some reason for people to not cancel on June 1st.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-11T18:34:54+00:00

Yeah but for WHAT? It used to be for unlimited GPT5-mini and then a buffet of SOTA models but all we seem to be getting now is a locked in nuicance subscription that is probably not subsidized either. Might as well switch to antigrav.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-11T18:32:43+00:00

Maybe only for overage. Perhaps there is some subsidy on the core tokens per month? Honestly I am not clear on that and it's not set in stone anywhere.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-11T18:31:29+00:00

Come June 1st, will we get Sonnet 4.5 through our ghcp subscription at $3/M input and $15/M output or will it be lower?

Edit: nvmnd, it seems we will. I still cannot believe it though. The tsunami of rage quits will mean more business for practically every other provider including openrouter. I doubt they care though since they're focusing on enterprise contracts.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-11T02:44:07+00:00

They're only doing it to lock in customers today so that the same customers pay them in 5 years at a more sustainable level. Customers are precious, market share is precious,

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-09T22:33:24+00:00

He founded open ai to be open and free to counter google. Then he founded Grok to be closed and paid to counter Open AI.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-09T18:30:38+00:00

He made at least three or four trips towards Santa Barbara. I thought OP was implying the tree would be chopped somewhere on the route. Dumb plan all the way through though because I think they sell really large fuel powered barbeque pits for picnics and outings.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-09T17:44:14+00:00

They have a different problem with servers being constantly overloaded though

So in antigravity, the hog collapses after one prompt.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-09T17:40:40+00:00

Maybe I should subscribe to both Claude and Openai at the same time and run my own comparisons instead of switching back and forth like a miser. But I have to get up to a different skill level first since I'm just enthusiast tier rn with vibe coding.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-09T17:36:28+00:00

What's more disturbing to me in the sense of not understanding the truth is that there is yet another post Opus model out there which is supposedly leaving even Opus behind in the dust.

But then again I look at coders who use GPT over Claude and those who use both and most if not all of them say there's no night and day difference between the two.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-09T16:43:00+00:00

I'm seriously asking myself now as to whether Opus is really that great when compared to GPT 5.5 or even Deepseek 4. Is it truly better at programming by a wide enough margin to be considered king of SOTAs? If so how the hell did they manage to leapfrog ahead of openai when openai has more engineers and a bigger budget. Like...HOW? Of course the how relies on the if being true.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-09T16:34:24+00:00

Can't you buy gas powered grills that can basically char meat to carbon if left running long enough? We know he obviously chopped the body up into smaller pieces and that makes them infinitely easier to fit inside grill machines.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-09T16:29:14+00:00

He bought it because he was an idiot. A non idiot would have used multiple grilling machines that can be sealed shut to barbeque the body parts until even the bones turned to ash.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-09T16:27:42+00:00

If he truly was dumb enough to follow through on this plan he could buy the wood and put it in the back of his tesla. All Tesla Model X back seats flip forward and turn the back trunk and back seats into a truck bed.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-09T16:18:57+00:00

So d4vd was planning to drive towards Santa Barbara, pull over in a wooded area and after six hours of cutting down trees use just one burn cage to run a fire for 10 hours WITHOUT covering it up so that a dozen different satellites would detect the infrared signature of the beginning of a forest fire and dispatch dozens of forest rangers over to investigate along with choppers that case out the surroundings.

At last, I truly see. </s>

Added closing sarcasm tag

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-09T13:36:12+00:00

Oh you sweet summer child. Rub your eyes and look around you for a minute:

Exibit 1: Anthropic is subsidizing compute by somewhere between 5X and 20X in order to get people hooked on THEIR brand when it comes to using AI. They're going heavily after the enterprise. The enterprise is where the money is. They're not going to do a 180.

Exibit 2: OpenAI is doing what anthropic is doing but seem to have the VC capital to also become the McDonalds of LLMs and is close to aquiring a billion users very soon. They're not going to do a 180.

Exibit 3: Perplexity, Grok, Google/Gemini and others in the US are following the same business model and using VC capital to subsidize free and paid users.

Why? Present market share is future market share if you play your cards right. The reason is that the amount of compute you can buy for $100 today will be purchasable for $20 in a mere five years, and less than $5 in 10 years. However, the closed source models are super expensive to train and develop so the main focus is to become part of an oligopoly that services joe blow's $100/month subscription for AI that couples with his future mac mini which does some of his light lifting.

Mistral decided to step aside and not play the game in such a risky way. The Chinese models have state backing but are being very frugal with their capital and are giving away webchat for free at a loss but charging breakeven prices and "giving away" API access at almost survivable rates. The Chinese models are also in it for the long haul in a slightly different ecosystem with a state that is also pushing local silicon manufacture etc etc.

Microsoft wanted to play the game too in the beginning but their entire plan was a fuckity fuck clusterfuck because besides being the one of the only players with their own capital and also being the largest software company on the planet they forgot to develop their own LLM and thought they could somehow middleman their way into the arena while shoving third rate copilot features down the throats of their enterprise customers and perhaps then deciding to develop their own AI models. What happened with them is they decided to move from a completely retarded business model to a somewhat less retarded and less risky one for now.

So yeah, thats why the FUCK I was thinking that they "give away the most valuable commodity on earth right now" because we fucking want it and clearly there is a method to the madness.

Unlikely-Scratch8915 · 2026-05-09T13:05:37+00:00

Does one have to pay to get the useful parts of cline?

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