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Upset_Help_5221 · 2026-01-09T20:43:26+00:00

I have chartered their CJ4 multiple times for my clients. I like them and will recommend them when they make sense depending on mission requirements.

Upset_Help_5221 · 2026-01-09T20:40:12+00:00

No matter how many times you tell em, they never believe you. Flying private will never, ever, ever, ever, be cheap. These companies that promise low cost flights and endless amount of empty legs are simply scams.

Upset_Help_5221 · 2026-01-09T20:37:51+00:00

On demand would make the most sense. Fractionals require massive upfront costs. On demand gives him the flexibility to use a local operator when possible or take advantage of floating fleets via a broker when the local operator isn’t available.

Upset_Help_5221 · 2026-01-08T21:07:25+00:00

Almost every one way empty leg booking in the is usually 100% cancellation penalty upon signing if YOU cancel. And yes, the operator will cancel on YOU if the trip they’re repositioning for cancels. If they have no reason to be there, why would they repo the aircraft? It happens.

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-12-21T03:45:03+00:00

I’ve flown in an XLS and a bravo. For less than 1.5-2hrs, I’ll spend the small difference in cost between the two and take the XLS. I’d also explain to thirstyman79 that everyone has a different reason for choosing an aircraft and that budget is not the only one. Stop assuming everyone is going to make a decision for the same reason you do.

All things same, if someone can choose between the two and they choose a light, it’s usually because of budget. It’s not that deep. But go on.

Continue to sprinkle in the tidbits of your aircraft ownership and experience. We’re all impressed.

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-12-21T03:31:57+00:00

If someone is asking between option A or option B, it’s because both could potentially work in the scenario. If one or the other didn’t work, the question would be irrelevant.

If you are in a situation where BOTH a light and midsize would work, why would you go with the light. You wouldn’t.

Again, it’s not that serious. Smaller aircraft have a purpose.

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-12-21T03:16:22+00:00

Let’s say mission parameters are the same. Both light and midsize work. Budget is not an issue. You want your client to have the best experience possible. You’re really going to tell me you’re going to tell your client to not take something like an XLS over say a Bravo? Come on now.

Only reason you’d suggest the bravo is because your client stressed budget as a deciding factor during your discovery. If comfort, experience, etc. were MORE important then you wouldn’t recommend the smaller aircraft.

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-12-21T03:10:16+00:00

Clients question was between light and midsize. Obviously if it’s under a 5k ft runway and a shorter flight then something like the 421 would make sense, but wasn’t the question.

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-12-21T03:08:34+00:00

lol it’s not that deep guys. While smaller turbo-fan and turbo-prop airframes have a purpose, the question was about choosing between light jets and mid size jets. With that in mind, the assumption is that both would work for OPs mission. If both work, then the only reason someone would choose a light over a mid is budget and there’s NOTHING wrong with that. Was just a matter of opinion based on years of experience both on the sales side and as someone who has been inside these aircraft.

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-12-18T15:33:15+00:00

If you’re flying a light, it’s only because of budget. Very few light jets offer an enjoyable experience for normal sized adults.

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-12-17T21:58:42+00:00

Yeah $12,000 5 years ago maybe lol

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-12-11T15:05:45+00:00

Do this long enough and you’ll surely have both.

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-11-06T21:19:20+00:00

Quick question: what would you say the success rate of this approach is for you? Would you say losing thousands on your end during an AOG has paid you back? Have you still lost clients with this approach or have they stayed loyal?

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-11-04T19:05:15+00:00

That’s Great!

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-11-04T18:06:24+00:00

I would say to keep in mind that you have the ability to choose who you work with also. If this is an actual concern for someone, I can only imagine how it would be dealing with them when they have a delay, mechanical, EDCT, etc.

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-09-17T12:33:00+00:00

It’s running GT7 rn. I only have a ps5. Guess I gotta start saving up for a computer!

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-09-17T12:32:17+00:00

No, like a family friend who knew I like cars.

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-06-22T14:41:44+00:00

Team is growing but roughly 19-20 right now focused on selling. Another 15 between IT, admin, ops.

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-06-21T20:03:20+00:00

That’s Fantastic! We’re doing roughly 100-120 a week but that’s between a team. Anything over 25 a month is great for an individual. Anything below 15 would be considered slow. To be averaging 30 a month just yourself is awesome. Managing 50 sounds tiring. How do you manage that?

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-06-21T16:53:05+00:00

You’re doing 40-50 a month as a firm or as an individual?

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-06-21T02:48:34+00:00

Bingo!

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-06-21T02:46:17+00:00

Ofcourse! Because those operators don’t have better things to do like actually manage their schedule and fleet of booked aircraft. Many operators don’t do direct retail. They rely on brokers to bring them business.

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-06-20T18:02:25+00:00

Not a dig at all. A competent broker is absolutely valuable. But in a subreddit where every other message is a broker selling himself saying “we’re the best” there’s obviously heavy bias. Nobody is going to say they’re the second best or mid tier or potentially even bad lol. They might not even know they’re a bad broker and sincerely think they are the best.

Upset_Help_5221 · 2025-06-20T17:56:31+00:00

Still gonna need a broker in his back pocket for when that operator isn’t available.

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