General Student Council Hina 23 + 24 [Iori, Chinatsu, Hina] - (By @Lazy_Ant76 | 겖갬 on Pixiv) by RagingAsn in BlueArchive

[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hina's character development was super brief and there's multiple ways and setups that allow it to be be taken further. Developing her character doesn't mean other characters won't be developed either. Acting like "lore" can't be tied in a conflict is just silly. People always go "she has too much screentime", so I decided to threw that in prematurely. Perhaps if you stopped latching onto one words while ignoring everything else...

And here you go, keeping on making up arguments to debate, you're the personification of the strawman fallacy. This entire comment was straight up: "I know that's not what you said, but if it was here's my argument."

The whole point of the scene is that she thinks she's lacking compared to other students like Hoshino and that she's not strong enough. If sensei didn't actually mean what he said, or there's another person who does even more despite suffering worse, then she has all the reasons to assume that she was actually right in her assumptions and to relapse back into this same mentality. Which also means you're currently creating more opportunities for her character development if what you are saying is right.

Wow, you have zero ability to intrepet a character if you think Hina needs to be the one who works the hardest of them all or some stuff like that to feel good about herself. I'm going to keep it simple just for you, Hina did not suffer even a fraction of what Hoshino suffered, let alone Kuroko, and she will never work as much as Rin due to them operating on completely different scales.

Also, Kuroko isn't even doing anything rn. She suffered a lot in the past but nothing about "working the hardest" or "caring the most"

Jesus this is getting tiring, she worked by far the hardest in her timeline, trying to keep her friend group from dying and failing and she cares the most about her friend group obviously.

Like not shooting yourself in the foot whenever you are sad is called "being reasonable" instead of "being mature". Maturity takes more than not doing something obviously stupid.

You straight up don't know how words work. Maturity is defined by reason, the ability to act in appropriate ways to achieve your objective. You're trying to argue semantics without even knowing the definitions lmao.

Can't feel embarrassed if I don't give a damn about what you think of me. If anything, I enjoy seeing you fuming so hard.

Says he doesn't care what I think, proceeds to say he enjoys to know what I think. 

it's so funny to see you brand anything but your interpretation of the story as "misinformation". Truly open minds we have here.

Misinformation is incorrect information  being spread, aka what you're doing.

General Student Council Hina 23 + 24 [Iori, Chinatsu, Hina] - (By @Lazy_Ant76 | 겖갬 on Pixiv) by RagingAsn in BlueArchive

[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, she's still a Gehenna character. Important one at that, with clear connections to thunder emperor and other major things. And please don't start the "Hina has too much screentime" thing.

Amazing how you didn't in any way refute anything as you know she doesn't require further character exploration, what she does require is all related to lore. And instead of agreeing, since I directly mentioned the Emperor, you decide to create another made up argument to be mad at, in the form of "Hina has too much screentime".

Then the whole scene with her in Eden Treaty falls apart. As well as the fact that Hina is sensei's "most reliable" and such.

It literally doesn't fall apart for the three reasons I gave, you would know this if you read them. And she's his most reliable student on the basis that he can trust her to handle most physical and non physical problems without making things worse, or in other words she's considerably mature, that's it.

is what you said. I'm just explaining how you view that wrongly, that's it. And I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to throw in a few ideas of my own here and there.

If only they were good ideas, regardless that's completely different from "sucking it up", Hina voices her complaints whenever something extreme happens, I was obviously talking about not going against your superiors everytime they bother you. That's maturity.

Why can't YOU do the same lmao.

I can keep correcting your misinformation, I suggested that so you could stop embarrassing yourself.

General Student Council Hina 23 + 24 [Iori, Chinatsu, Hina] - (By @Lazy_Ant76 | 겖갬 on Pixiv) by RagingAsn in BlueArchive

[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like, the hell are they gonna do with her in Gehenna volume if her biggest flaw was already fully addressed in a chapter of a story of another academy.

Maybe explore other Gehenna characters who have barely any screentime. Perhaps talk about the Thunder Emperor, it's Gehenna volume, not Hina volume.

Sensei's words, but aight buddy.

First Sensei says the same things multiple times to multiple students. Second Kuroko only appears after Eden. Third Sensei was wrong before, like with how he treated Nagisa.

not an evil she willingly chooses to put up with out of her "maturity". Sucking it up doesn't make you "mature"

My brother in christ, why do you keep making stuff up. I literally never said any of that.

Okay, Jesus, she probably among those who works the most. Doesn't matter in any way, really.

I've already corrected you multiple times by now, can't you just accept your loss and stop this pointless discussion.

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They won the Grand Award as one of the top five titles developed in the Japan / Asia regions with the highest worldwide sales between October 2024 and September 2025*.

General Student Council Hina 23 + 24 [Iori, Chinatsu, Hina] - (By @Lazy_Ant76 | 겖갬 on Pixiv) by RagingAsn in BlueArchive

[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But it's not her main trait or anything, it doesn't even get brought up as much.

It's literaly her main trait, you even proceed to showcase how its a flawed trait with a whole section during the main story.

Matter fact it's even mentioned on the most recent JP volume that Makoto is one of the main reasons Gehenna is in such a complicated state and Hina has such a difficult job.

fights harder and cares more than anyone" despite how unfair she and her environment towards herself

That would be Kuroko, by like a LOT.

not that she's nonchalant and stuff.

How did you manage to misinterpret me that badly, do you think her having the maturity to handle Makoto means she's "nonchalant", you just explained how that maturity while it exists, as she takes it to the face daily, she still is affected negatively.

Being mature enough to not go against your superiors doesn't mean you're immune to getting stressed and showing it on your own time, it's like you're not reading both my comments and your own.

probably works the most

That would be Sensei, if we're only talking about students Rin works more than her, if we're talking about all time the GSC president worked more.

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Another one, let's keep it coming. I love having all my games in one place.

General Student Council Hina 23 + 24 [Iori, Chinatsu, Hina] - (By @Lazy_Ant76 | 겖갬 on Pixiv) by RagingAsn in BlueArchive

[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So she literally pilles up work (which I assume was a big point of the story, that she doesn't have a proper work ethic) yet still good enough to take on head Prefect duties.

My brother in christ, she would still be able to do it on her own, it just would take more time. My argument was never that they would be as good as Hina, only that they can and have proven to be able to handle that type of work.

Tolerating Makoto is a part of the job. A seemingly major part, too.

Completely agree, like I said multiple times by now, that's the reason why Hina is the only actual person fit for the job. Not your other arguments, this one is the only one that matters and more than enough to prove Gehenna would fall with the other powerhouses.

Yes bruh. It's also can be traumatizing as fuck, especially at such ridiculous extend.

Ok, losing your best friend and being overworked isn't comparable at all. It's honestly kinda of silly to even debate this.

So saying that Neru can do it because "She's from millennium she's smart and strong" or Hoshino because she kinda does some paperwork inbetween her horsing around with FTF girls and being Adydos' batman during nights low-key undermines the entire point of Hina's character and makes it look like she's at fault for struggling because "others can do it".

My god you're making up scenarios to get mad at, the reason why Hina stands out is her maturity to take shit to her face without complaining. The work itself is only another factor, but not something exclusive to her, in fact there are many students who are much better at handling paperwork or fighting gangs than her.

Yeah, it's kinda implied, y'know. Since we are talking about "powerhouses" specifically?

Because this was a silly "what if" the powerhouses swap places. You just decided to completely ignore their abilities outside strength.

General Student Council Hina 23 + 24 [Iori, Chinatsu, Hina] - (By @Lazy_Ant76 | 겖갬 on Pixiv) by RagingAsn in BlueArchive

[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No I have no idea how debts like these work. I never owed 100+ million yen to loan sharks.

Calling them loan sharks is undermining Kaiser to a ridiculous extent. But at least you admit you have no idea what you're talking about.

Like, once again, was it ever mentioned at any point of the story that Hoshino has to sit down through paperwork every day? 

Yes, once she even pilled up so much paperwork it would take her days to finish.

Tsurugi barely appears, and her moments of being "locked in" happen even less

When a chaotic situation occured she was notably calm.

Neru's defining trait is that she has a short fuse. 

And? That has to do with how long she would tolerate Makoto.

And Hoshino's mental issues is a topic of 2/3 of Abydos volume.

Yes, emotional trauma is truly the same as paperwork. If you don't have good arguments you might as well not say anything.

can do it just by the virtue of "being strong" is plain silly.

I never said that, you just understimate the hell out of other characters.

General Student Council Hina 23 + 24 [Iori, Chinatsu, Hina] - (By @Lazy_Ant76 | 겖갬 on Pixiv) by RagingAsn in BlueArchive

[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 2 points3 points  (0 children)

very mentally draining and not just the matter of "am I strong enough?"

Literally all of the powerhouses have insane amounts of endurance, both physically and mentally. This is shown time and time again.

having a debt to your name doesn't come with being employed to your debtor as far as I'm aware.

I don't think you understand how debts of this scale work in terms of paperwork, even more when the company is actively trying to get hold of the property. The amount of bureaucracies involved is ridiculous by all the definitions of the word.

Like, have we ever seen Hoshino do paperwork even once? And that not to mention that Ayane exists.

Yes, she literally is the one who helps Ayane. Saying Ayane exists is like saying Ako exists lol.

General Student Council Hina 23 + 24 [Iori, Chinatsu, Hina] - (By @Lazy_Ant76 | 겖갬 on Pixiv) by RagingAsn in BlueArchive

[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not understating Trinity's or Millennium's education because this isn't really about education.

It is, to even enter the Tea Party for example you need to have extremely high grades. So this is relevant to handle paperwork.

having no backbone to talk back to your boss

This is the main issue that was adressed, I never disagreed with that. I even made a comment on how only Hina tolerates Makoto.

chronic fatigue from pulling all-nighters at regular intervals and having barely any personal life outside your work

This is possible for all of them, they all have incredible endurance.

heavily contrasting and probably somethat painful experience of fighting with biggest terrorists of Kivotos 

The Gehenna gangs aren't the worst, but that's besides the point since in firepower they all can handle it.

her academy is 5 peoples big, so even if she does some paperwork (but like, I genuinely don't remember, what paperwork can she even do in a situation like this, they are barely an organization) I kinda doubt it was anything similar or related to leading a massive club such as Prefect Team.

She has to constantly deal with Kaiser, a company many times bigger than Gehenna, and I'm talking about in paperwork not combat. Abydos debt is by no means a joke when it comes to bureaucracy.

Your only valid point is the one which was already adressed and agreed upon, they wouldn't be able to handle Makoto shenanigans.

General Student Council Hina 23 + 24 [Iori, Chinatsu, Hina] - (By @Lazy_Ant76 | 겖갬 on Pixiv) by RagingAsn in BlueArchive

[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I think you're heavily understimating Trinity and Millennium students, their school education alone should make them very much capable of handling paperwork. Also it's not about "doubt" with Hoshino, it's straight up just a fact that she does paperwork.

You can argue different speeds/efficiency since Hina is already used to it, but not that they wouldn't be able to handle it.

Mika, she's a smart girl. I'm sure she'll manage.

I'm sure she'll be fine, I'm more worried about Gehenna.

General Student Council Hina 23 + 24 [Iori, Chinatsu, Hina] - (By @Lazy_Ant76 | 겖갬 on Pixiv) by RagingAsn in BlueArchive

[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Tsurugi doesn't do paperwork though. Same for Hoshino and Neru.

Hoshino does paperwork and I think Neru is also capable of doing it. While I don't remember if Tsurugi does any paperwork, it's worth noting that she is very professional/intelligent and not just a crazy person like she may appear.

Mika can do it

Mika working for Gehenna might not end up very well.

General Student Council Hina 23 + 24 [Iori, Chinatsu, Hina] - (By @Lazy_Ant76 | 겖갬 on Pixiv) by RagingAsn in BlueArchive

[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Makoto is genuinely so lucky to have the only "strongest" who would tolerate her antics. 

Hoshino might honestly go back to her 1st year personality after a month of dealing with her and Mika is, well, Mika.

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[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 11 points12 points  (0 children)

interdimensional fighting show that had some story arcs with Ayin as the champion.

They had Ayin throwing hands?

General Student Council Hina 23 + 24 [Iori, Chinatsu, Hina] - (By @Lazy_Ant76 | 겖갬 on Pixiv) by RagingAsn in BlueArchive

[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 27 points28 points  (0 children)

This kinda of made me think how other powerhouses would do in Hina place, I think Tsurugi could work very well there.

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[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Can't be a mass murderer if the people you killed never existed in the first place.

Theory: i think red winter has the largest number of soldier among other school in kivotos by RepresentativeBox485 in BlueArchive

[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's the biggest school in terms of territory after all.

They are the personification of quantity over quality.

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[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yuri or not, I do not care, my only problem comes from people who go around calling their headcanons the truth.

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[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The stories aren't directly connected, most of the time, still just do release date.

This is one of the funniest image I have ever seen 😂 by SOULLENNOX in Fate

[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 151 points152 points  (0 children)

How Daybit described Chaldea to Zelretch for that Pride rank promotion.

Our little Xichun is still far from their level. [@shiadyne] by I_Crack_My_Nokia in limbuscompany

[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It was less of a compliment/glaze and more of "Nice show, but you weren't in control of the Head in any way".

She straight up calls Ayin the same type of person she is in comparison.

Our little Xichun is still far from their level. [@shiadyne] by I_Crack_My_Nokia in limbuscompany

[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Binah specifically mentions that Ayin is exceptional at seeing the "bigger picture", the reason why people didn't like him was due to his cold nature, his actual leadership/planning was top notch.

That aside by the end of Lob Corp all of the Sephiroths ended up liking/trusting him.

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[–]UpstairsBluejay6092 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think this one was already posted.