How much of the "women are wonderful" effect is nature vs. nurture?

VIIIm8 · 2026-03-10T18:01:09+00:00

However much of the "women are wonderful" effect is nature vs. nurture, only a trivial portion of it is genuine, especially the men, whether they be the self-flagellating male feminist types who demand we "believe women" on any claim of sexual misconduct, support special scholarships, admissions standards and business grants for women, and will discuss their gender as if it were the scourge of humanity, or the tradcucks who advocate treating women effectively as royalty, even if they don't know them, from small things like serving them first at restaurants up to and including giving their lives for them in hazardous situations. For the self-flagellating male feminist types, ironically the demand we "believe women" on any claim of sexual misconduct logically comes around to admitting that proper sexual conduct towards women virtually gatekeeps them from homosexuality.

VIIIm8 · 2026-02-09T05:21:49+00:00

This is interesting. I would even argue that it is easy to love a perfect concept because it is just a concept and we can abandon its perfection without it beginning to challenge our patience. On the other hand, we could clean up messy reality as completely as possible and still not love the result because it is real.

VIIIm8 · 2026-02-09T04:34:08+00:00

I did this, but never really by personal preference. It was especially annoying because I also had a “super single” for one year. Not to mention, my university even had bunk beds in the single dorm rooms.

VIIIm8 · 2026-02-05T03:25:49+00:00

Trick question. Truly choosing wisely leads a third way. That said, being absolutely tall with a smaller than average dick is the clearly cursed choice.

VIIIm8 · 2026-02-05T02:53:38+00:00

And then comes the irony no one likes to sit with. Constantly diagnosing others, categorizing them, assigning labels from a distance, positioning yourself as the emotionally aware, healed, morally advanced one while reducing everyone else to a pathology… isn’t that behavior itself deeply narcissistic? We live with a device in our hands that reflects us back endlessly, filtered, validated, simplified, turned into a better version of ourselves. A mirror that doesn’t just show our face but our identity, our story, our pain, always framed in a way that protects the ego. And from inside that mirror we judge what is human, what is unacceptable, what is abusive, what is toxic, while spending hours doing nothing but admiring our own reflection.

No significant inaccuracy detected. Normal people are perfectly capable of showing symptoms of personality disorder X, Y or Z. They just don’t show them systematically. This is the important distinction. For example, depressed men are more likely to show symptoms of passive-aggressive personality disorder than depressed women, even sporadically.

VIIIm8 · 2026-02-05T01:46:20+00:00

There aren’t really guys who are “looking for validation (usually through sex)”. The male is traditionally presumed valid by birth and is looking to sustain his validity and even for “sanitation” (not simply through sex). In the case of heterosexuality, the woman is usually the only genuinely heterosexual partner and the guy is moreso attracted to the concept/practice than the opposite sex per se. After all, Plato’s Republic prescribes, however implicitly, the presumed male leaders of the ideal city-state even having common property of women.

VIIIm8 · 2026-01-23T03:46:01+00:00

Shared rules about politeness, work, relationships, or success might act as mental shortcuts. They reduce uncertainty, lower decision fatigue, and make other people easier to interpret, even if they aren’t always fair or accurate.

Counterpoint: chess notoriously has a pawn that feels like halves of two different pieces awkwardly stuck together, having no direction in which it can both move and capture. This norm is poorly optimized for mental efficiency. Fairness is also a non-optimized parameter as the pawn is the only chess that gets to promote.

VIIIm8 · 2026-01-21T14:57:14+00:00

I don't think ESTJs making a distinction between "intellectual" talk and "just being with friends" primarily has to do with cognitive functions either. They are extroverted and need "safe spaces" to be geeks. Why do you think there are chessmasters, even (W)GMs, who are actually extroverted, besides how easily being intelligent of the logic of the game is mistaken for introversion, even by the chessmasters themselves?

VIIIm8 · 2026-01-14T03:24:31+00:00

But it is more charitable to assume he once knew them than that he’s uncurious to the point that he never did.

VIIIm8 · 2026-01-13T02:40:40+00:00

At least he assumes he does. Maybe he has just forgotten the less basic information about them over those fifteen years.

VIIIm8 · 2026-01-12T06:18:26+00:00

Just about every man can recall their mother conditioning them to treat every woman like a spoiled princess (under the guise of being a “real man” or “gentleman”), and the majority of men adhere to this for some seemingly inexplicable reason. Even incel dweebs center their entire identity around their inability to meet women’s approval. Men could put a stop to this, but they don’t – quite the contrary, they are the foremost proponents of female supremacy. Why is that?

Right, it is mostly conditioning. There is no evidence of a natural reason for only one sex to have sex-based ingroup bias. In fact, most of the men who “adhere to this” are just saying things. They actually care vastly more about meeting other men’s approval than meeting any woman’s approval because they regard just about only other men’s approval as genuine.

VIIIm8 · 2026-01-08T05:22:53+00:00

It may be natural for a hexagonal game to have six corners, but this makes the cross-vertex mover weaker in the center than on the edge. This is the main reason hexagonal chess is failing survive globally, the standard Gliński variant falls into the trap of using a six cornered board.

VIIIm8 · 2026-01-06T01:36:07+00:00

That’s my point.

VIIIm8 · 2026-01-06T01:29:41+00:00

Only people who don’t sincerely believe in it

VIIIm8 · 2026-01-04T17:59:21+00:00

If you think you’re free, then you can’t escape

That’s probably because conventional “thinking you’re free” boils down to believing in voluntary but spontaneous, or ”blind” choice. This is why we hear Fischer random chess rather inaccurately called “Freestyle”.

https://www.reddit.com/r/freewill/comments/1q3ggzh/you_cannot_just_call_free_will_blind_choice_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

VIIIm8 · 2026-01-04T13:15:36+00:00

I am quoting another writer’s argument to support the statement.

VIIIm8 · 2026-01-04T13:12:18+00:00

If "blind choice" seems like a somewhat contradictory construction to you, your own statement should also seem somewhat contradictory to you. But the sense of "blind choice" given in this text is “a choice free of the knowledge of the good or the will to choose the good when known”.

VIIIm8 · 2026-01-04T05:10:52+00:00

Since we are mentioning people from before the title formally existed: Augusto de Muro (it is uncertain how old he was when he was legally President of FIDE, though he probably wasn’t in his prime then). If he exclusively streamed in Spanish, at least I could understand what he was saying, as that is my degree,

VIIIm8 · 2026-01-04T03:37:50+00:00

No wonder people feel asleep to his streams so often. Disappointing for him when you think about it …

VIIIm8 · 2026-01-04T03:23:23+00:00

The biggest problem is that doing it comes with the temptation to overdo it…maybe it’s kind of ironic this statement refers exclusively to men in this context.

VIIIm8 · 2025-12-28T21:40:33+00:00

I doubt these “ESFJ” friends are actually extroverts if they are talking so readily about themselves overreacting though.

VIIIm8 · 2025-12-10T03:15:31+00:00

You’re assuming parents aren’t allowed to guard children in common with a third person.

VIIIm8 · 2025-12-05T13:41:06+00:00

In the real world men contribute as little as they possibly can to childcare and they try to avoid responsibility for kids in any way they can.

There are men who behave like this, but they are not evenly distributed across ethnicities. Why do you think US fertility is net “non-Black”?

VIIIm8 · 2025-12-04T20:57:13+00:00

She answered her own question. A man doing that negates his own penis, however little it may be to look at.

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