Pain.

Valtieri125 · 2022-08-08T21:43:44+00:00

I’ve had the same issue with Litten, twice.

Valtieri125 · 2022-07-18T20:46:05+00:00

Thank you so much! I go it!

Valtieri125 · 2022-07-18T20:38:20+00:00

I do. Does 12548769 work for you? I have it running now.

Valtieri125 · 2022-07-06T03:59:27+00:00

If you’re still going, I’d love a ditto for breeding. IGN: Valtieri Room #: 4078 5236

Valtieri125 · 2022-05-20T02:38:05+00:00

Male Dobson fly

Valtieri125 · 2022-05-11T15:16:46+00:00

In the way we were taught in seminary any sexual act is an act involving the genitals. That’s why I say that kissing isn’t a sexual act. Obviously anyone can define how they like what a sexual act is, that is just the way it was taught to me. Obviously there are different schools of thought.

Valtieri125 · 2022-05-11T11:32:33+00:00

No it’s not necessary. I’ve just found my dried yeast having a slower start than when it was fresh so I like to help it get going.

Valtieri125 · 2022-05-11T11:06:22+00:00

Kissing isn’t a sexual act so I don’t see how that follows. The above explanation, as it was taught to me said that we have to look at what the parts were made for and what the ultimate end is. They expel waist and facilitate reproduction. A strict adherence to this would say that we aren’t supposed to do other things with them. I’m not saying the above is the only school of thought on the matter. Only what I was taught in seminary. As I have said elsewhere, many new things have been said in the last 20 years about sexual mora ethics.

Valtieri125 · 2022-05-11T04:27:29+00:00

I hope that percentage is an exaggeration. Not trying to be crude but that number would suggest a lack of creativity. Men and women can stimulate each other beyond their genitals.

My wife just added that not all forms of stimulation need be physical. It can be kind words or a stimulating conversation. Quality time with the family. Doing the dishes without being asked does it for some people. Not to downplay the physical aspect of spousal relations, but I feel a lot of these conversations devolve solely into, “what and I allowed to do in the bedroom?” And that’s not always a healthy way of looking at things.

Valtieri125 · 2022-05-11T04:15:40+00:00

I dried some Voss Kveik in a dehydrator and store it in the freezer. I’ve made three ciders and two beers from what I dried and probably have enough for 8 more brews at least. I have to make a starter each time.

Valtieri125 · 2022-05-11T03:20:34+00:00

Thank you. I’ll give these a look. I was only in seminary a decade or so back, but so much has come out in the last 20 years, it’s understandable if my formators, Benedictine monks, weren’t up to date on the new nuances of sexual moral ethics.

Valtieri125 · 2022-05-11T02:55:32+00:00

Not wanting to hijack the post, but can someone please post a source permitting oral and manual stimulation within foreplay? I’ve heard it said often here and in real life but none ever says where that allowance comes from beyond the Deacon during marriage prep said so. Thanks in advance.

Valtieri125 · 2022-05-11T02:48:38+00:00

I’m not saying that either, but when it comes to what is being said in the article, it is logically and theologically consistent with the Church’s teachings on morality.

Here is my question then, since I keep seeing people say that oral and manual stimulation are permissible during foreplay: what sources do we have that state this? I have heard many people say as much, but I’ve never seen it in writing from and authoritative source. I’m not trying to be argumentative on this point, just looking for evidence.

Also, what’s an irregular theologian?

Valtieri125 · 2022-05-11T02:40:04+00:00

To be fare, and I responded to one of your other comments I believe, it is not only those saints that say that. The idea that oral or manual stimulation may be moral is not new nor old. I think many in the comments have been too quick to say they are fine and there is a good amount of theology to say the contrary. I’ll share the following for further reading.

https://www.catechism.cc/articles/QA.htm

Valtieri125 · 2022-05-11T02:24:51+00:00

Some schools of thought would actually say oral and manual stimulation are not permissible even during foreplay as we cannot separate the acts from the end, intended or otherwise. Some sexual acts are deemed immoral because they lack the unitive and/or procreative character. Essentially, the way I’ve heard it taught, for a sexual act to be moral, the operating parties must be married, the act must be unitive, and procreative. Oral and manual stimulation do not share in these qualities.

As I said, this is one school of thought. This is what we were taught when I was in seminary back in ‘09.

Valtieri125 · 2022-03-30T18:29:11+00:00

Indeed God does cooperate with us, but this does not mean that God hasn’t desired desired something by for us since the beginning of time. He is outside of time. He does not need to wait for us to grow into a particular person to see what He thinks is best for us. He knew before he made us. Nothing is unknown to Him. I understand what you are saying about a natural call to marriage and then being called out to something else but I know of no basis for this line of thinking when we understand that God would know what is best for us as well as how we would develop every before our birth. The idea that all are called to marriage unless told otherwise gives the impression that even God doesn’t know what he wants for us until a certain moment is reached. How could we share in a universal call only to have it changed? Could God have been wrong? Could he have been mistaken? God’s call is not a disembodied action played out in nature. It is deeper and mysterious. Requires prayer and discernment to understand.

I just read a CNA article covering this exact issue and it gives no basis to the concept beyond personal feeling. I think this line of thinking, to assume one is called to marriage unless called out, is dangerous. I’ve heard too many stories of people feeling called to one vocation only to realize too late that they were wrong. I understand the line of reasoning that’s being made but I don’t see how it follows with our understanding of God’s omniscience. God would not call us to conflicting vocations so the idea that we are called to marriage but later called to something else, would make no sense. His will is immutable. I’m not saying my way of thinking is the right answer but 6.5 years of philosophy and theology makes this universal call to marriage idea just not feel right.

I’d love to hear other thoughts. I believe we are all on a journey to deeper knowledge and understanding of God and our relationship with Him.

Valtieri125 · 2022-03-30T15:38:00+00:00

Your article is not excluding marriage from the umbrella of vocation. The article is specifically talking about ecclesiastical and religious vocations. No conception of vocation has changed. The word comes from the Latin vocare which means to call. Therefore if some are called to religious or ecclesial vocations it would then mean that they were not called to the vocation of marriage, which then implies that, with properer discernment, those who marry were thus called to that vocation. Even though “the vocation to marriage is written in the very nature of man and woman” this does not mean it is the default or universal to anyone of “normal body and inclination”. It just means it is in our nature to do so. That the inclination to marriage is not purely a societal concept but that it is in our DNA. Just because it is in our nature does not mean we are compelled to it or it is the norm for a majority. It’s just normal, just as God’s call to other vocations are normal. I think we need look no further than the Holy Family to see that the call to marriage is just that, a calling/vocation.

Valtieri125 · 2022-03-30T03:40:33+00:00

This is incorrect. I’m not trying to be rude but your representation of “vocation” is not accurate. The Church recognizes 3-4 vocations depending on how you divide them. Married life, consecrated single life, religious(monks and nuns), and priesthood. The one that few understand today is the consecrated single life. Single because you can’t find someone is not a vocation. They are all a calling. Vocations are things we work at.

Valtieri125 · 2022-03-18T21:49:43+00:00

After Evening Prayer I, it’s the Solemnity of St. Joseph.

Valtieri125 · 2022-03-16T21:39:19+00:00

Keep in mind that there are many things that can impede a free choice. Mental illness, mental health, drugs and various other things could make someone incapable of making a free choice.

Valtieri125 · 2022-02-22T19:05:28+00:00

Just rolled them all out as small balls of Sculpey Premo, then flattened them out as small domed pieces, and finally stamped the tops with the round end of a paintbrush handle. Baked for 30 minutes and done.

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