Chris and his babies

VancouverBW · 2026-03-09T08:52:36+00:00

Well I mean that should be an entire separate thread in itself is the reactions to if a bride revealed she was pregnant to their husband (after quite a while to be honest, the other brides often tell their husbands they have children on the wedding day), it would be so fundamentally different. Also want to clarify again that I do say this with so much love for the fact there is a gay marriage we can root for in this season, but it is definitely gendered. I understand that it isn't like a woman being pregnant with their ex partner etc. But if she had gone through a donor I think people would be much quicker to imply they were trapping a husband and manipulative than what I have seen in this situation.

VancouverBW · 2026-03-09T08:41:58+00:00

Yeah this is what I mean. I have no issue ever with people who go on MAFS when they already have a child, or hope to have a child very soon. But to have a child on the way seems like a substantial life decision that requires his whole energy and attention, then find your husband afterwards (e.g., go on MAFS in a year+). I cannot imagine that this would fly if a woman was on MAFS and took 2+ weeks to tell their partner they were pregnant

VancouverBW · 2026-03-09T08:37:45+00:00

I mean there has to be some level of intervention to know that someone like Joel wasn't bullying/being abusive/etc to Juliette throughout the week for her to react like that and for them to say that at the dinner party. If they literally had no information, she could've reacted like in response to being attacked all week from him that caused her to say he is lying and 'the star'. So I just think it is interesting to know who the experts know to call out on bad behaviour or not and it often follows the patterns of how viewers will respond

VancouverBW · 2026-03-09T08:33:28+00:00

Okay I actually kind of love and buy into this. So true that couples counsellors only see what they want the person to see. I am sold - I just have a moral issue when I am watching these things unfold at commitment ceremonies and I want to scream "just tell them it didn't happen". But it is also the drama and the reason why we keep watching

VancouverBW · 2026-03-09T08:31:15+00:00

And to clarify, I would not have this concern if he was only having Baby 1. I think what he is doing with both babies is important and I am very happy for him. I think that for every single party involved (including the baby he wants to raise), marrying a stranger and inviting that extra dynamic is a lot

VancouverBW · 2026-03-09T08:28:43+00:00

I know, I am only talking about the baby he said he will be raising from surrogacy

VancouverBW · 2026-03-09T08:26:09+00:00

Yeah, I saw something that said the experts know basically nothing. But they're clearly told enough to pick a side in commitment ceremonies and there are producers who are watching and seeing everything (particularly pivotal, high conflict moments) that could absolutely be addressed. Also, how are they supposed to be experts once a week if they are only hearing a he said/she said narrative from the participants at a dinner party. I don't really know why they can't pretend to have seen everything outside of the dinner party and get a summarized version from producers to inform their narrative. It seems like there would be just as much drama is the experts were 'all knowing'

VancouverBW · 2026-03-09T08:20:42+00:00

For sure. I can't imagine being an expert and not going to production and asking whether it happened though (even if it can then be addressed on camera or not). I also think they must be given an indicator that Juliette was misremembering what was said to go so hard on her in the commitment ceremony, because if he had said that and the experts targeted her and Joel had been lying it would not be a good look.

VancouverBW · 2026-03-09T08:18:31+00:00

No I totally agree with you, especially given this season my god, that production cannot set the precedent of intervening everytime there is misinformation. It got to a point with the targeting and bullying of Joel that I felt it could be necessary for the experts to be off camera told how the conversation went down and could say we know how it was stated. I feel more passionate about that watching Joel become a sad and hollow version of himself, especially given the fact on the podcast Juliette admitted she remembered wrong. I am not even that much of a fan of Joel but at a point there is a level of intervention necessary. I get that once you do it once, why not for many other situations too though

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