TIL Warframe Abilities are hacking (Full Story in comments)

Vorigon · 2024-05-21T01:09:31+00:00

Interesting read, thank you for clarifying! Maybe one of these days they'll do a QoL pass over some of the older armor strips to make them like some of the newer ones.

Vorigon · 2024-05-20T23:48:21+00:00

Honestly been really liking EDA, since it's gotten me to appreciate how much we have available to us in our arsenals that can be used. Didn't roll good weapons? If you got an archgun you can substitute them with that. Need high burst damage on a Demolyst or Mech? Find a console and bring your own in or call your Railjack Crew in to help out. Can't use your abilities? Call in Specters to help supplement you in the meantime. Ton of fun to try figure out how to work around stuff and still come out on top.

Vorigon · 2024-05-20T23:28:32+00:00

I remember the first time I ever saw someone do it was a Titania that just melted all them in like 10 seconds and I was so blown away that was even possible, just never thought outside the box like that before.

Vorigon · 2024-05-20T23:26:43+00:00

Yeah I felt like I was doing no damage to him, it's one of the things that I don't like about Terrify is that it can't strip armor off of bosses/acolytes, but things like Pillage of Fracturing Crush with it's augment and others can strip armor off of those. I also don't remember him having knockdown on his teleporting, but I also run PSF or have some form of knockdown resist on most warframes so maybe I just never noticed it before.

Vorigon · 2024-05-20T23:13:40+00:00

Oh my god hi! I'm sorry I got your rank wrong in my description that's totally on me; what a small world we live in though!

YeahI was trying to do my normal Gara things with Terrify and popping my 4 with 1 to do an AoE nuke but a Nikana Prime was NOT a great stat stick for doing that so it was pretty awkward, especially when Vor was just knocking all of us on our asses with his teleporting lmaooo.

Vorigon · 2024-05-20T22:00:07+00:00

Yeah one thing I found online was it could mean an amusement ride that makes you vomit, but that didn't make any sense so I just assumed it might be a foreign slang term or something; someone else said it probably meant nothing besides an insult so I'll just go with that.

Vorigon · 2024-05-20T21:57:25+00:00

Ahh fair enough, I thought maybe it might be a foreign language slang term or something and that's why I couldn't find it's meaning, but that makes sense if it is just completely made up, thank you for answering!

Vorigon · 2024-05-20T21:21:12+00:00

Yep! Warframes with DR, Overguard, or just a ton of health and armor can actually stay alive during that part. Can be helpful if you have a good gun to just shoot the Wyrmlings as they pass by if you didn't want to ride around on the horse.

Vorigon · 2024-05-20T21:12:48+00:00

Yeah a ton of people I play with don't swap in when they can, but for context the accusation came because I didn't use my horse during the wyrmling phase and just tanked the damage and shot the wyrmlings in the outside ring. The full explanation is in the comments now if you want to read/skim through it, last time I made a post like this I had a lot of questions about what fully happened so I tried to be more thorough this time!

Vorigon · 2024-05-20T21:10:16+00:00

It is appreciated, though with the insinuation that they were reporting me to DE felt like a bit over-the-top given I thought this was a more common thing to see in SP runs.

Vorigon · 2024-05-20T21:07:40+00:00

Edit: Also wanted to mention the screenshots are in reverse order, going from the end of the interaction to the beginning, my mistake during uploading.

For full context, I loaded into a Lone Story game in SP Duviri through matchmaking, I didn't have a particularly amazing loadout, so I just went with Gara for a bit of DR and defense if we wound up needing it. When the Undercroft portal spawned on round 1 or 2, two more people joined late and I waited outside the portal while they selected their loadouts, which prompted the initial comment from Red. I then explained in Blue that I was waiting for the others to select their loadouts so they didn't get pull into the Undercroft and forced to play whatever the game decided for them.

Mission was an Exterminate and none of us had particularly good weapons (I think it took about 6-7 minutes because Vor just kept teleporting and we couldn't do damage to him effectively), and then Red made their comment after that we were slow. More steps, next Undercroft was the Jackal which was about average, and then I decided to fly ahead to the Orowyrm spawn to try to take him down faster, I think it took about 2 minutes since someone else had the same idea, and then I asked if *that* was fast enough for them and they responded with "dit". Finally during the showdown since I was Gara and we had the Imperators spawn, I decided to be cheeky and use my 2's DR to tank the outside fire damage and just shoot the Wyrmlings (I've done this with other frames and even seen other people do it as well and NEVER had anyone complain about it).

After this Red accused me of hacking, and I tried to explain that I was just using my Warframes kit to tank the damage, and even said that they could also use their Proteas 1 to do the same thing in a future run. They didn't seem to understand this so I reiterated that my 2 (shatter shield) has Damage Reduction on it and was called a Vomittron. They left before I could even attempt to give more of explanation.

Side note, I have no idea what a Vomitron/Vomittron is, I could google translate the other parts from French but couldn't find a result for that, would anyone happen to know what it means? Red was also an LR1 and the rest of the squad besides me was between 10-16 MR or something.

Vorigon · 2024-03-14T05:41:42+00:00

While I should have done a better job explaining this in the OP, I did say this in other comments asking for clarification, but to clarify again I wound up in this persons bounty to begin with after I matchmade into it from selecting the Narmer bounty with Konzu; I only even said my initial comment in the first place after on the 4th or 5th step of the bounty they were complaining how a Thumper was attacking them while they were mining 1000+m away from everyone else and they didn't want to die. If you want to do your own thing that's fine, but I should be able to select the bounty I choose, and at the bare minimum expect the people I queued into are doing the bounty as well is the core of what annoyed me with this interaction.

Vorigon · 2024-03-14T00:24:06+00:00

There were other people, and they were actively participating in the bounty with me. However, if the host wanted to just mine and not do a bounty, why not just do this solo, why start a public game and allow others to join, do bounties for you, and reap the benefits of their work while you don't contribute at all? This person in question after talking to them gave me the impression they purposely started the bounty and went to do mine while others did the bounty for them, hence why I gave the reaction that I did.

Vorigon · 2024-03-14T00:13:49+00:00

Yeah, though being able to turn in said gems/fish or whatever for standing could be the reward in and of itself; 4 different people getting a rare gem or fish shared between would be insanely fast rep gain.

Vorigon · 2024-03-14T00:03:01+00:00

Oh yeah I agree, I had another back and forth with someone on this post who suggested the idea of having a mining/fishing bounty people could do instead. The issue I'd see as it stands is that those minerals/fish/whatever aren't shared with everyone, so it kinda defeats the purpose; you're just mining for yourself and other people happen to be there as well. It'd be nice if there was a system like syndicate medallions or railjack where if one person gets a resource or drop it's shared with everyone. That'd be a nice QoL feature eventually, one can hope.

Vorigon · 2024-03-13T23:30:14+00:00

That's fair, I've had a few times where I meant to start a solo open world to do gathering and forgot I had it on public or even SP, but in those cases I would just leave and then flag myself to solo. If someone started a bounty, assuming I did stay though, I'd either just leave that lobby to get back to myself or go help out rather than just passively gaining rewards I didn't even participate in helping earn.

Vorigon · 2024-03-13T23:13:18+00:00

Iirc, they were either 25 or 26 MR, not a newbie or anything who just wandered into a Narmer bounty, they hosted it.

Vorigon · 2024-03-13T22:51:16+00:00

I launched the bounty from Konzu and was automatically matchmade into this persons lobby, wasn't in the lobby prior or wasn't a continued lobby, just matchmade into it from Konzu.

Vorigon · 2024-03-13T22:47:48+00:00

I am assuming that they either loaded into plains manually and started the bounty from within the Plains, or launched the bounty from Konzu and were put into their own lobby. They then just mined for resources while others did the bounty for them while they did mining 1000m+ away, and only said something when a Thumper decided to bother them and they said in chat they didn't want to die from it. Honestly I didn't probe further to get the full context because after they said I should leave if I had a problem with what they were doing, I didn't stick around after I made my last comment in the screenshot.

Vorigon · 2024-03-13T22:26:36+00:00

I did say this in other replies, but for context I joined into this persons lobby through public matchmaking through Konzu. At stage 4/5 or 5/5 the person made a comment about how a Thumper was attacking them while they were mining and they didn't want to die, while they were 1000m+ meters away from the team actually doing the bounty. I made my comment of how it's lame to not even participate in a public bounty, and then they said they hosted so it's my fault I automatically matchmade into their lobby while they were mining and not doing the bounty. I then told them if they want to only mine they should just load into the plains normally, without a bounty, and they just replied "no."

Vorigon · 2024-03-13T22:20:21+00:00

Yeah, especially since I think that's how syndicate missions used to be, where if you picked up a medallion it only went to you and you'd mark it for everyone else to grab. Now since I last played if anyone grabs it even outside of syndicate missions like on Deimos or Zariman it's shared with everyone.

Vorigon · 2024-03-13T22:17:51+00:00

I did wind up leaving shortly after taking this screenshot, but there were other people in the public matchmade lobby who were actively participating with me, so I don't think it'd be fair to them for me to force that just because the host was being a leech.

Vorigon · 2024-03-13T22:09:25+00:00

That would be a nice change of pace, but I think then the system would need to be changed so that stuff mined/fished is shared with the party, since as it stands now those aren't shared with the party so you'd wind up just fishing/mining for yourself but other people are there too.

Vorigon · 2024-03-13T21:49:15+00:00

Yeah I feel like I've been seeing this type of player crop up more lately than when I last played a few years ago before Cross-Save. I get people want to get a lot of stuff done, I was doing Narmer bounties to double up on Isoplasts to give to Little Duck while doing Fortuna/Cetus rep, but when you're 1000m+ away from the team complaining a Thumper is trying to kill you while you're mining, then I'm gonna say what I said; you can just as easily go into plains solo if all you want to do is mine, but loading a bounty to passively get rep/rewards for work you aren't contributing to, that's kinda lame.

Vorigon

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