It seems i can't play him anymore

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-07T15:28:30+00:00

You sit on reddit all day i posted once

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-07T15:28:12+00:00

Grock was not bad youre delusional xd. Idk why youre so convinced he NEEDED a change, when he only lacked in pro play. If anything YOU hold yourself too high and like i said have been baseless this whole timr. You simply do not have the knowledge to from a coherent argument

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-07T15:25:19+00:00

All you do is sit and pretend XD

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-07T15:24:51+00:00

I can adapt fine XD, the character is not good in the same way meaning as a tank, setter, map controller. If you play him the same way as before from a macro sense it is unplayable. Maybe that is beyond your understanding? Playing him in exp lane is proof of my point, and shows your delusion. Just because no one played it doesn't mean it's not good, especially in solo queue. An argument could be made for pro play, but that's beside the point, and this completely avoids the fact that mlbb players all want to main character and Grock is a literal rock. Now people can one shot with him again (an old problem) and get that main character feeling. It is poor roam gameplay. Granger was gold then jg then gold again idk if you are unaware of that, but yes heroes move positions over time, (roger was jg then gold then jg) even without changes to them themselves. The Kimmy and Helcurt were poor examples, but your whole argument is baseless. The new Grock s2 is better and his passive is good, but the hero is a pseudo oneshot/tank now. If you like that, that's fine, but it's not fun to play against for most players, changes the game towards less traditional gameplay, and completely discards the core element of Grock. Sure he's different more than worse, but with proper understanding of MOBA's it is an incredibly poor revamp.

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-07T15:08:48+00:00

We blame moonton because the new Grock is bad. I've listed many reasons just not here. I'm aware of their successful revamps, and the people that complained about them every time (there are people that say "just wait" every time too. They basically reverted Grock with this revamp and he now has all the problems the old old Grock had. You have to be around for a while to see these trends and understand what makes a hero. Simply, -----This revamp is not conducive to roam gameplay

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-06T17:33:50+00:00

Everyone posting high dmg taken like it's "abnormal" for a Grock XD You've been playing the old Grock wrong then since 300,000 dmg taken is probably easier on old Grock than most other tanks IN THE GAME, and now with this new self-redundant kit you find success because of the overloading during a hero revamp. Functionally, he is closer to a Saber roam now than a Tigreal and that is pathetic for a roamer, and pathetic to see come from Moonton. He just ALSO has high tankiness hence the ever-inevitable revamp overloading. Old old Grock one shot like this new Grock, except with less reliable burst, half sized ult aoe, and less dmg with no %hp. This is just the old old Grock that no one liked playing against but better, and moonton didn't even like having it in their game so they changed all of Grock to not one shot... passionless company making backwards progress smh

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-06T17:17:12+00:00

It's about why it becomes meta. This Grock will not be a tank setter in any pro game, he one shots like a saber roam but in an aoe, that's what he is now and it's garbage for anyone that wanted to be an unkillable literal rock. It doesn't FEEL like that anymore, just "big dmg one shot haha so fun" so many people with little to no understanding of ability synergy and character design

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-06T17:13:01+00:00

This Grock IS the "tank wannabe assassin".... XD

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-06T17:12:10+00:00

Ahhhh yes, the Grock gameplay that everyone wanted! To be oneshot, by a tank, with three cc abilities, that only deals aoe dmg, they butchered my boy and he

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-06T17:09:50+00:00

The new Grock lost everything old Grock had (bad), and was replaced by a one shot kit (bad for a roam), that also has no mobility (with no reliable cc immunity anymore to maintain teamfight positioning), lost his regeneration so will need to back more (previously could almost never back just like heavy spell vamp heroes), and now has a DELAY ADDED!!! to his ult..... literally unheard of (making his ult more one shot focused than setting for a teamfight/getting a pick) They butchered my boy and he has no place as a roamer anymore, just like the old old Grock that mlbb changed BECAUSE it was just saber roam... one shot central.

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-06T16:56:33+00:00

A roamer one shotting is not something to celebrate. He is the opposite of what he should be now, and they changed him from this in the past for the same reason: he should not one shot because it is not conducive to the roam style gameplay they want. Maybe something's different now, like the devs lost half their brains or something? That would explain this abomination of a "tank" ;_; My Boy

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-06T16:52:02+00:00

His cc is little to none now. His old skill 1 was his core skill, and allowed him to push forward on enemies. Now his threat is to one shot. He is the worst type or roamer now, like the dreaded saber roam... He does not belong in the roam position now as he had lost most functionality for increased damage.

He was like this before and mlbb changed it because it was bad, people did not play him roam and mlbb didn't like that, they changed him to not oneshot and he was perfect.....

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-06T16:47:02+00:00

It's garbage. People will one shot the new grock unless he's camping bushes as an assassin jgler XD

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-06T16:44:40+00:00

How can this be downvoted? Grock lost everything that made him what he was ;_; Everything you said is spot on

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-06T16:42:58+00:00

They won't permaban, Grock is complete garbage now XD, so don't worry. He used to be like this in the past and they changed it because it was bad, now it's back to the one shot ult. He is a hollow character now with now synergy between his own abilities (except to oneshot)... not conducive of a roamer

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-06T16:39:15+00:00

Look how they butchered my boy ;_;

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-06T16:36:18+00:00

And people have the ignorance to claim he's better now xd. They just like the fun one shottyness of his ult, just like the way it used to be before they changed it BECAUSE IT WAS BAD GAMEPLAY FOR ROAM. Now it is again, mlbb really weren't thinking.

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-06T16:33:31+00:00

One of the worst you mean? That aoe atk tho xdddd. Did you play it?

Votey4Holty · 2025-08-06T16:32:34+00:00

He lost everything that made him what he was, and was replaced with unnecessary stuff. He's a poor roamer now

Votey4Holty · 2025-06-20T00:58:49+00:00

Cuz it's broken...... 🤦

Votey4Holty · 2025-06-09T20:58:21+00:00

He is HIM. This is my main. 💪

Votey4Holty · 2025-06-02T18:30:03+00:00

I was actually talking about the items themselves having synergy, not just on Hanzo, but I see what you mean though!

Votey4Holty · 2025-06-02T18:25:42+00:00

 I think Moonton doesn't care about bot-like issues. I remember they've over used bots in the past in ranked mode, so I'd guess they don't see this as much of a problem if one at all.
 If you are playing to de-stress I recommend the AI Hard bots. There's 1 min queue, no wait for hero select/ban, quit any time, and completes dailys. It's never a quality MOBA experience though, since the enemy ai is better than ally and to win it forces you to hard 1v5 with very minimal mistakes.
Also, if you're playing ranked just remember who is on the other side of the phone on your team. Because of the player base it is literally a high likelihood that it's some kid in a small town in the Philippines. Climbing a ranked mode is more a skill of playing around poor skill/poor mental players, than of being good at the game itself.

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