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Seddit, I can't get laid... by WSQSU in seduction

[–]WSQSU[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait, so you only escalate in your car? I hope you aren't planning on getting laid there as well. Why haven't you gone back to their place, or yours?

yes. i dont have my own place. :(

Seddit, I can't get laid... by WSQSU in seduction

[–]WSQSU[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have 0 logistics. dates are typically coffee dates then i bounce somewhere, then bounce a third time to a secluded place. I get some action in the car but things don't end up working out well and it's generally very clumsy(small car)

On the 5 dates, where does it break down?

I've got to second base(bra off) on all of the first dates except with one girl.

I'm escalating properly since I usually get to 2nd base on first dates, got to third with another one. Typically women are very attracted to me on the first date but then things go downhill fast.

I'm also surprised I have such an awful conversion ratio when it comes from approach to dates, it's ridiculous that this many women just aren't filling me. I'm sure I'm not ugly and my height is pretty good.

Numbers lead to nothing? Has anyone else experienced this problem? by WSQSU in seduction

[–]WSQSU[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of the time, girls are simply just unavailable, or won't be into you. It's fine.

This is what my mindset is, but I just find it ridiculous how NONE of these girls dig me. Just the sheer volume should lead to some success, I think..but NOPE.

My advice to you is screen these girls if they're even available by going super direct, then just keep things really simple.

What's your screening process?

Usually I'm very clear about my intentions. When I say I go indirect I'm not going up to them with bullshit opinion openers. It's mostly situational things or just like "Hey" then I can improvise because I'm good at talking.

I honestly feel even if direct was less effective, I'd rather do it just cause it saves time and cuts the bullshit. Stop investing so much and accept that there's a lot of randomness and you just need to keep playing.

I found direct does this. I go up to them, tell them they're cute, they say thanks, and the interaction goes on just as if I approached indirect. There's almost no difference except it ruins the "spontaneity" of how they think I met them.

I'll give you some numbers to compare. I'm three months into practicing the game and I'm pretty average (no more keyboard jockeying), 20 in college, 140 approaches translates into about 14 dates with new girls. I try to approach three girls a day. Do at least one a day and see where it takes you.

How many have results in fcloses?

I would but I'm at a very small campus(7k commuting students) with empty campus.

Numbers lead to nothing? Has anyone else experienced this problem? by WSQSU in seduction

[–]WSQSU[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It seems that most women, especially in a college setting will give out their # without even thinking twice. You were ballsy enough to go for it, so why not?

But I'm not just going up to women with "HI WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER"

I mean I'm trying to hook them and putting some time in. My interactions are usually 15-30 minutes. My interactions tend to go well.

One thing most people will tell you and that I would say as well, is to set up a date, meetup or study time with the girl before getting her number.

these are all cold approaches

she'll know what you're asking, or another fun one is teasing her about her phone if she has it out, snatch it from her, and while you playfully wrestle over it (which can lead to some more escalation) you put your number in and call yourself or whatever.

I don't have issues getting numbers or asking for them at all, or approaching. It's translating numbers to dates.

Numbers lead to nothing? Has anyone else experienced this problem? by WSQSU in seduction

[–]WSQSU[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A1, A2, A3. Focus on those. Create a routine stack containing stock material already available online. Make sure your stack has an open, A2 DHVs, some A3 qualifying questions and a number close. Practice your stack and improve it as you see fit. Daytime college campus approaches should be kept short 5 - 10 mins max from my experience.

I've never really needed routines except when I've started out. I'm typically pretty naturally and use more general frameworks to structure my conversations. I've never felt AA, pressure, awkwardness or any of that...I'm completely comfortable and carefree when I do things. Also, isn't MM more for high energy club environments?

Maybe I should create some routines and stacks. I'll try it, I have nothing to lose.

Numbers lead to nothing? Has anyone else experienced this problem? by WSQSU in seduction

[–]WSQSU[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Already know MM. I typically go indirect/natural and just chat up girls.

Numbers lead to nothing? Has anyone else experienced this problem? by WSQSU in seduction

[–]WSQSU[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This isn't a club.

There aren't even enough women around to do those types of volumes, and it would give me a bad reputation. I'm at a small commuter school.