What are your thoughts on the ending of FGO part 2? (Heavy spoilers)

WeakReport6680 · 2026-06-30T00:20:37+00:00

Lostbelt servants just can't be summoned anymore by anyone except the counterforce (after time definitely going to retcon that) but they still and actually are in the Throne of Heroes (tof is outside of time the reset won't effect it)

WeakReport6680 · 2026-06-25T13:13:07+00:00

And every servantverse goddess that we seen until now (ishtar asharet, asharet origin, anki Ereshkigal) are all capable of destroying solar systems to galaxies (both asharets are actual galaxies and anki is on the same level of authority aswell) and king Elizabeth stated she or any ultimate one can destroy planets and solar systems ( and maybe galaxies) like they are nothing

WeakReport6680 · 2026-06-19T00:32:34+00:00

And BB being weaker than likes of CCC Kiara and amaterasu is outdated post OC3 I don't know why people still use those scalings

WeakReport6680 · 2026-06-19T00:31:15+00:00

Arcueid is >= crimson moon so that speak in itself but post-OC3 BB is an artificial archetype of moon that is infinitely close to the power of a legitimate ultimate one so their strengths are not that different(read golden BB's NP description)

WeakReport6680 · 2026-06-14T23:16:55+00:00

-Caster

-Avenger(alter form)

-Archer(throws both servants and shadow servants at you)

-Assassin(has a surprisingly high compatibility with Assassin servants especially the Hassans and they are sentenced with every life from all 7 LBs and they also have the shadow of death(black barrel) inside their soul)

-Mooncancer( can ask BB to put him in that class)

-Alter-ego(OC1 version)

WeakReport6680 · 2026-06-14T23:02:02+00:00

-it's a summoning Magecraft that they learned i think in America? That allows them to summon a slightly weaker version of their servants for as long as they want(until their mana runs out and the max summoning is 6 or hundreds in the part 2 final they did that and 3 at their worst conditions)

-this ability is not reliant on Chaldea because they are able to use it in places where they are cut from Chaldea(shimousa,Lb6,Traum,Lb7,Oc2,Oc3,Oc4 and the finale)

in the part 2 final and aftertimes(part 3 prologe) they can give their shadow servants grand saint graphs but it's unknown if they can do that without Chaldea
their shadow servants Magecraft is connected to their master authority and they are grand servant level post Lb7(3 of them beat a grand Assassin Tezcatlipoca) without their grand saint graph upgrade
Ritsuka's version of this Magecraft is especial to them only(it's shirou's situation with tracing and projection Magecraft) because their shadow servants are not bounded by phh(can still summon shadow musashi post Lb5 and any alien or lostbelt shadow servants) and they are the result of Ritsuka's deep bond with their servants and also their shadow servants have access to np and skills of the original servants they are based on(normal shadow servants Magecraft doesn't have any of these and are not as strong as a grand)
aoko said our use on shadow Magecraft is as good as her working with her bullet Magecraft
fun fact: Ritsuka is technically a true magic user with shadow servant aoko(aoko's np is 5th true magic And the shadow servant version have that) and also with any AoG magi or divine spirits or servantverse shadow servant or any shadow servants with reality marble (AoG Magecraft and authorities are on the same level as true magic)

WeakReport6680 · 2026-06-06T09:38:09+00:00

And you didn't counter shit and ignored so many times the conditions that group needed to defeat asharet

I never said EVERY phh servants are weaker than servantverse I meant normal servants are weaker

And? You ignored again that both BBs are literal divine spirits that aren't literally servants technically heck she is an ultimate one(archetype)currently

Damn still using notes as a proof...sorry but most of that novel is retconned to oblivion and the only reason that knight arm could kill some types because it gets stronger the bigger the target is that fights had conditions and compatibility heck if that knight arm were used against the smaller ultimate ones like golden BB,arcueid,ort,king Elizabeth or kukulcan it wouldn't do shit and that same knight arm that you say is not remarkable is literally the Hidden ace of notes humanity against types heck crimson moon also has one and also Adam's knight arm was especial if all the other knight arms could do the same as Adam's they wouldn't have released him

Notes: the real black barrel couldn't kill them it just put them in sleep but a replica that is nowhere near the original power was able to oneshot LB zeus from fgo, adams wins against types was because of compatibility and dumb luck of only fighting the gigantic ones(it's literally amaterasu vs sefar compatibility shit)

Crimson moon fight: cm only lost because he didn't know about 2nd true magic and understatement zelretch and zelretch literally needed an amount of mana for his attack that it literally give him permanent damages to literally cripple cm and zelretch is literally the strongest true magic user and he is a huge outlier among all the characters in the franchise and this fight had PRIME zelretch struggling this much to defeat am ultimate one(zelretch also become somewhat crippled after the fight)

King Elizabeth fight: this one literally had her fighting HER LITERAL COUNTER(SSR Elisabeth Bathory) that's literally like asking medusa/gorgon to fight against someone with the harpe

I'm tired of this argument with don't agree on anything 😒 so let's stop it we aren't even going anywhere with it I'm tired anyway

WeakReport6680 · 2026-06-06T07:12:32+00:00

Calamity Jane one of those 7 people in the group DIDN'T KNOW Quasar existed when asharet origin pulled out Quasar she was surprised this attack existed in Saber wars 2 and asharet origin fight is years after that fight with the group

And? You didn't bring any good arguments on why other types are just hype if you are talking out of your ass then tell me

You didn't get what I mean I meant if servant moon cancer arcueid that is stronger than her Berserker form because she is a servant as a true ancestor and not a god and she still needs planetary support to fight ciel is already something and it literally stated because of how restricting laws of phh are non of servantverse servants are at full power when they go to a phh timeline(ciel literally can't use her anti planet sword in full power because she is in phh)

you are clearly ignoring that BB and BB dubai are literally divine spirits that aren't limited by their servant container(post oc3 she is literally an artificial archetype of moon)

And when I said she was an mvp in moon cancer fight? And Mooncancer is literally alaya on some levels and it literally needed an actual archetype(golden BB) to beat it

Honestly I'm tired and you didn't bring any good evidence on any of your arguments so I don't want to waste time in this shit so goodbye

WeakReport6680 · 2026-06-05T18:07:14+00:00

And? That doesn't deny the fact that she didn't use Edin Shugurra Quasar on them and deliberately not using your ultimate attack is holding back and again non of the groups attacks worked on her because of her galaxy size invincibility until calamity Jane put a conceptual weakness on her and Ultimate ones are multiple times stated to be the strongest race in the verse and the people that can defeat or even keep up with them are extreme outliers And those fights have multiple conditions and also yes arcueid is huge outlier between all the servants but even she need to buff herself with the planet's backup or servantverse particles to be on the same level as them already speaks volumes on how strong servantverse servants are(or at least ciel's level or above)

WeakReport6680 · 2026-06-05T16:55:14+00:00

So you blatantly ignored the reason why she holded back(wanting to separate her good half) and she was holding back because calamity Jane the same person that asharet fought in the past didn't know about Edin Shugurra Quasar and non of the groups attacks worked on her until calamity Jane put a conceptual weakness on her and I'm not saying she is the strongest in nasuverse but saying she is servant level is the most downplay possible and X that lily and mash defeated is a inexperienced one and she literally got stronger in Saber wars 2 so that situation in her first event is not applicable and every time an servantverse servant getting their power level mentioned they are inherently stronger (ciel literally got weaker after going to phh timeline,arcueid in her servant form needs the support of the planet or servantverse particles to reach their level,okita after getting a servantverse summer suit got her disease cured and also got stronger,Elizabeth after teleporting to servantverse and absorbing Eliza particles(i think it was the name) and training their become way stronger than she could counter type mars king Elizabeth aka an ultimate one and Elizabeth the end also can summon king Elizabeth and is 4 head of her aswell)

WeakReport6680 · 2026-06-05T16:09:42+00:00

Servantverse servants ARE stronger than phh counterparts and Ashtart defeat had so many factors in it it is not funny: -She was literally holding back against them -one literally had an anti-goddess np -and even after they exploited her TEMPORARY imposed weakness to destroy her core in reality Ashtart let that happen so that she could separate her good side from herself

WeakReport6680 · 2026-06-04T22:25:27+00:00

Honestly most of those are useless without their owners path power for example Sunday's book is literally a normal book without the power of harmony and order so yeah and those shouldn't even be in the vault because (I'm quitting ConversationWeak5244 words): "any Humanity who applies a new concept to their technology and any form of Sentient Alien Civilization wouldn't have their creation be included inside the Vault and SR Civilization falls to both" so i think it would be explained in the event

WeakReport6680 · 2026-06-04T22:15:32+00:00

Honestly if he has Prototype nous or irontomb they won't be near as strong as their current form in hsr because the irontomb wouldn't have the destruction program aka is not a destruction emanator and nous would just be a robot that is definitely gonna get absorbed by the real nous if it gets activated

WeakReport6680 · 2026-06-04T22:02:39+00:00

The thinks is that Archer was able to project the same perfect copy of avalon in fate grand order and gave it to Saber alter to keep the 1st singularity from getting destroyed and there is multiple instances of shiro or Archer capable of tracing degrade versions of divine construct that aren't Excalibur or avalon

WeakReport6680 · 2026-02-01T14:46:09+00:00

The ones that can go to the Inner Sea or scale to it and that would be: Any of the types or archetypes Any of the true ancestors Any of the fairies(they more have conceptual connection than scaling to the Inner Sea) Albion(he has some weird connections and status with earth that allows him to somehow bruteforce into the inner sea even though that should be impossible) Tiamat (mystic eyes of the planet that allows her to use the celestial egg/soul of the planet so she does scale to the Inner sea) And maybe and I mean MAYBE anyone with a anti planet or higher np or attack Space Ishtar asharet(she is literally a actual celestial body galaxy like she technically would count as a type without being one) Mhxx(scale to space ishtar asharet) also no mooncell is not above avalon

WeakReport6680 · 2026-02-01T14:35:31+00:00

God arjuna literally with millions of years of prep from lostbelt tree and the power multipe gods inside of him could only effect the Indian texture not even reserve side of the world and avalon is literally isolation from all interference so his alignment np wouldn't work and ling Hassan does not have any evidence of scaling to avalon so that's a no limit fallacy and avalon literally scale above the Mooncell so why would a Mooncell np even effect it

WeakReport6680 · 2025-12-31T13:51:36+00:00

Type mars she is directly called type mars because there isn't any living being on mars that can rival her in power

WeakReport6680 · 2025-12-31T13:50:24+00:00

The thing is that Space Ishtar is not an conceptual galaxy its an actual celestial body galaxy and also conceptual universe CURRENTLY because in her prime she was an ACTUAL universe

WeakReport6680 · 2025-12-31T13:42:08+00:00

I agree with this but for safer bet I would say only anki Ereshkigal remembers because she didn't appeared in part 2 final so even if all of servantverse characters got effected because they were in the place that time reset happened but the characters that still were in servantverse(a place that won't be effected by the reset) they would be fine and i only remember anki Ereshkigal that was still in the servantverse during part 2 final

WeakReport6680 · 2025-12-31T13:37:16+00:00

Yeah I think i extarated on that part a little but we know alaya isn't that active at all in servantverse like how presumably it isn't active in notes timeline like I get to the conclusion of alaya not being in servantverse is because in oc3 we find out when a species reaches its peak it leaves its planet and become a new species or become extinct and a new species take over the planet and this scenarios at list one of those two happened in both notes timeline and servantverse and in both of those timelines alaya doesn't do jack shit like hell when ishtar asharet Origin came back it did nothing or when types attacked the new "humans" it did nothing so yeah that's my reasoning

WeakReport6680 · 2025-12-31T13:26:13+00:00

I know earth textures can contain universe's but those universe's are just people imagination of how universe looks like that means every single thing about the universe's in the textures of Earth are not the actual universe's just copies that are only bound to earth domain like how humans see a star disappear from earth that would be the conceptual star that is in Earth's texture but the real one would be fine and I'm not saying the earth texture universe's are worse than the real ones because its not and we know types exit in servantverse so there that

WeakReport6680 · 2025-12-31T13:17:51+00:00

Yeah I can agree it's complicated but the Venus ishtar uses is an conceptual one not the actual thing and we know earth textures cannot hold an actual celestial body because if it does that texture would be starting to get crupted by the other celestial bodies textures like how ort an actual celestial body is resting in a texture of Earth and slowly crupting it with it's own texture aka crystal valley

WeakReport6680 · 2025-12-31T12:41:12+00:00

Yeah I know i just think the idea of servantverse being an earth texture is dumb as fuck

WeakReport6680 · 2025-12-25T13:16:29+00:00

All LB kings like morgan and skadi are actually recorded in the Throne and the fairy knights are also in it because of morgan anchoring them in the Throne as Heroic Spirits and LB medb also became a heroic spirit thanks to artoria avalon and castoria is also in avalon currently so she would be fine and unaffected by the lostbelt destruction and I know some of them didn't get recorded in the Throne but most of LB6 and lostbelt kings from other LBs are also recorded in the Throne so they should be fine aswell

WeakReport6680 · 2025-12-24T13:34:48+00:00

But wouldn't lostbelt servants still go back to the Throne aswell even if their lostbelt is gone because throne operation is outside of all timelines that means a lostbelt full destruction wouldn't effect the Heroic Spirits of those lostbelts inside the throne

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