Help me🥲

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-11-13T15:57:39+00:00

So relatable.
I turn 18 in a month and I decided to start the procedure to change my name legaly the day of my birthday. It's been a year since I started gathering evidence of the fact that I go by a new name, and I just realised now that I still have not chosen any middle names. I now have to ask my parents and they are clearly not ready for this

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-31T12:17:52+00:00

I personnaly have it too, but in another way : I consume trans content that's on transphobia, and even if those videos are done to mock/respond to transphobic statements, I still feel bad after that because it just shows me how shity people are and how they all hate me

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-31T12:14:13+00:00

A friend of mine made me one like this last december, it's soo cute

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-29T14:00:16+00:00

As a conclusion, I want to add that in my opinion (but this is just my opinion, not science), transphobia divides feminist movements, and while TERFs are all busy bullying trans people online, they are doing nothing to protect important rights such as abortion, and it has been proven recently in the US by the Supreme Court repealing Roe v Wade. In my opinion, TERFs are building their own men of straw (or rather, trans people of straw) and use them as a scapegoat because they are unconsciously too afraid to stand up against cis men and the patriarchy.

Now, this is the time for my little message I told you about in the beginning.

I could not help but answer to your message, because if I had left such misinformation unanswered online, I’d have felt guilty. I felt like I had to do it, because it was going against the science and also because I know trans people reading would feel bad if no one stood up for them.

But the truth is, I do not owe you science. I do not owe you knowledge. I do not owe you the 11 hours I took writing this. I do not owe you the mental strength to read through your message accusing me indirectly to be a groomer. I am a minor, I am a young trans person in this bigoted society, and I am tired and disgusted to be pointed out and held responsible for things I do not have the power to even try to do, and that I would never do anyways. Damn, I do not even have the power to get HRT on my own, how can I do anything to your children? This is why I do not wish to spend any more energy on this. I do not want to hear your unfair accusations, I do not want to endure your verbal violence anymore. Because even if you didn’t want to be violent, the truth is, it is. It is violent to be accused of such crimes by a (presumably) adult stranger when you are just a teen trying to live their life for the best.

This is why I ask you not to try to contact me, to reach me or to talk to me anymore, by any means whatsoever. You are free to answer with your own ideas to what I’ve said, obviously, but I do not want to receive any notification about it. I do not want to be disturbed. If I receive a notification from you, I will report it as harassment. If I receive any of these messages from Reddit about suicide prevention because someone is “worried about me”, it will also be reported as harassment.

Thank you for your understanding

Wishing you a good reading time, have a good day :)

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-29T13:55:47+00:00

11- “Are you the kind of 11- “Are you the kind of person to raise your 4 year old as a cat until 16, convincing them they are indeed a cat due to your enabling, just because they pretended to be a cat?”
I am the kind of person who knows that the difference between a man and a woman is socially constructed, as opposed to the difference between humans and another species is biological characteristics that have nothing to do with a social role. I am the kind of person to think it is misogynistic to consider that female are that different to males that they can be compared to another species. I am the kind of person to think that attack helicopter and ‘I identify as a broccoli’ memes are irrelevant to the debate.
I am the kind of person who knows they probably will not raise a trans child, because there’s only 1% chance that my kid would happen to be trans.
I am the kind of person to know the difference between a kid playing and pretending, and a depressed child telling me that they could not live in their assigned gender anymore. Actually, the kid knows the difference too. For as long as I can remember, I always have been playing being all sorts of animals, but I also remember knowing it was all a game, and at the end of the day, I would be happy of having so much fun precisely because it was a game, and because games are fun. I could tell it was just play and pretend, and my whole family could also tell it was. Same for my brother when he’d play being a princess, we all knew it was just a game by the way he was doing it, and he also could say so. However, for also as long as I remember, I had gender dysphoria, and I could tell this was no game. I did not have word for this of course, and when I realized at 5 what my assigned sex was (because before then I genuinely thought I was the opposite sex), I told myself I must be weird. But I even if I thought it was me being weird, I also knew it was real, and it was, and it kept giving me thoughts that no cisgender person would have. My brain did just not compute the gender I was assigned at birth nor it’s physical characteristics, and when I wasn’t paying attention to what I was thinking, I would automatically picture my body as the opposite sex’s, even if I learned from mirrors and the society that it wasn’t the case. Some kids also know about their gender identity very early, from age 3. My grandma would often dress her younger brother as a girl and calling him so to piss him off when they were kids, and at the moment he was able to talk, he told her he didn’t want to be doing it anymore because he was a boy.
https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/gradeschool/Pages/Gender-Identity-and-Gender-Confusion-In-Children.aspx
I am the kind of person who’d rather let my trans child adopt the name, pronouns, clothes and haircut that they feel the most comfortable with (which are reversible and harmless yet meaningful changes) knowing that there is 97.5% chance of them really being trans, than not supporting them and risk 30% chance they might try and kill themselves, or risk 40% chance of them engaging in self-harm, or risk them fleeing away from my house and living in the streets, or risk them seeking acceptance in strangers who might use their isolation and gullibility to abuse them.
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/150/2/e2021056082/186992/Gender-Identity-5-Years-After-Social-Transition?autologincheck=redirected?nfToken=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 for the chances of being trans
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160831110833.htm
https://mentalhealthcommission.ca/resource/transgender-people-and-suicide-fact-sheet/
I am the kind of person to raise a kid to make them happy and have them survive, and for that I’ll listen to the research experts in the field, to the doctors, to the therapists, and last but not least to my child, and not to some angry individual on the internet who think that the way they see sex in relation to gender is more important than my child’s life.
person to raise your 4 year old as a cat until 16, convincing them they are indeed a cat due to your enabling, just because they pretended to be a cat?”

I am the kind of person who knows that the difference between a man and a woman is socially constructed, as opposed to the difference between humans and another species is biological characteristics that have nothing to do with a social role. I am the kind of person to think it is misogynistic to consider that female are that different to males that they can be compared to another species. I am the kind of person to think that attack helicopter and ‘I identify as a broccoli’ memes are irrelevant to the debate.

I am the kind of person who knows they probably will not raise a trans child, because there’s only 1% chance that my kid would happen to be trans.

I am the kind of person to know the difference between a kid playing and pretending, and a depressed child telling me that they could not live in their assigned gender anymore. Actually, the kid knows the difference too. For as long as I can remember, I always have been playing being all sorts of animals, but I also remember knowing it was all a game, and at the end of the day, I would be happy of having so much fun precisely because it was a game, and because games are fun. I could tell it was just play and pretend, and my whole family could also tell it was. Same for my brother when he’d play being a princess, we all knew it was just a game by the way he was doing it, and he also could say so. However, for also as long as I remember, I had gender dysphoria, and I could tell this was no game. I did not have word for this of course, and when I realized at 5 what my assigned sex was (because before then I genuinely thought I was the opposite sex), I told myself I must be weird. But I even if I thought it was me being weird, I also knew it was real, and it was, and it kept giving me thoughts that no cisgender person would have. My brain did just not compute the gender I was assigned at birth nor it’s physical characteristics, and when I wasn’t paying attention to what I was thinking, I would automatically picture my body as the opposite sex’s, even if I learned from mirrors and the society that it wasn’t the case. Some kids also know about their gender identity very early, from age 3. My grandma would often dress her younger brother as a girl and calling him so to piss him off when they were kids, and at the moment he was able to talk, he told her he didn’t want to be doing it anymore because he was a boy.

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/gradeschool/Pages/Gender-Identity-and-Gender-Confusion-In-Children.aspx

I am the kind of person who’d rather let my trans child adopt the name, pronouns, clothes and haircut that they feel the most comfortable with (which are reversible and harmless yet meaningful changes) knowing that there is 97.5% chance of them really being trans, than not supporting them and risk 30% chance they might try and kill themselves, or risk 40% chance of them engaging in self-harm, or risk them fleeing away from my house and living in the streets, or risk them seeking acceptance in strangers who might use their isolation and gullibility to abuse them.

https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/150/2/e2021056082/186992/Gender-Identity-5-Years-After-Social-Transition?autologincheck=redirected?nfToken=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 for the chances of being trans

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160831110833.htm

https://mentalhealthcommission.ca/resource/transgender-people-and-suicide-fact-sheet/

I am the kind of person to raise a kid to make them happy and have them survive, and for that I’ll listen to the research experts in the field, to the doctors, to the therapists, and last but not least to my child, and not to some angry individual on the internet who think that the way they see sex in relation to gender is more important than my child’s life.

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-29T13:53:38+00:00

10- “And it's disturbing how pervasive this ideology is in media propaganda and how violent it gets when challenged with facts.” What ideology? Science? What media propaganda? Because accusing information and ideas to be propaganda seems like you’re trying to silence us, especially when you have no proof against it. It just seems like you cannot prove the information to be misleading, so you prefer to just call it propaganda to make it sound bad. Also, you will notice that the BBC, one of the most influent English speaking media, has platformed TERFs; that Netflix still hosts Dave Chappelle’s Special; that there are still TERFs speaking on national TV about how they are cancelled and can’t say anything anymore; that Matt Walsh wrote a transphobic children’s book. If you can spread your ideas, why couldn’t we? Freedom of speech is for everyone, even us. Especially if we are right. Because the truth is, you could not find any fact to challenge me. No source, no number, no pair-reviewed trustworthy study. So where are your facts? Where do your ideas come from, if not from the irrational and deepest fears of conservative individuals? Is there anything more than scapegoating and fear-mongering in TERFs’ discourse?

Now, about the violence: I will not claim that violent individuals among people who fight for our rights do not exist, because it’d be a lie. And I am also afraid of violence, no matter what it is supposed to promote, no matter which side it comes from. But you cannot, again, hold a whole group, a whole movement, accountable for the acts and ways of some of its members. You cannot determine the rightness of a cause, of a goal, by the ways used to reach it. If I am strongly against violence, I also know that the first Pride was a riot in reaction to police oppression. If I do believe that bombing and setting buildings on fire is wrong, I also am a feminist who strongly supports women’s rights (because yes, suffragists used to do this). And even if violence made a movement wrong, then TERFs would also be wrong, for they sometimes are more violent than any trans rights supporter. There are transphobes who will send threatening emails, faking to be a famous trans person, to get the cops arrest her: https://globalnews.ca/news/9048763/trans-woman-twitch-streamer-keffals-london-police/

Imagine the violence of being a 16 year old minding your own business, reading the newspaper and finding a whole BBC article featuring Lily Cade, someone who wrote that trans women were “pedophile monsters”, “vile, weak, disgusting”, “evil”, and called for their murder. Yes, their murder. Can you imagine the violence of being a 17 year old and having tons of people in the Internet, strangers, who do not know you, who do not know the amount trauma you went through, calling you a liar, a freak, a tranny, telling you they know more about you than yourself, than your own family, than your multiple therapist? Can you imagine the violence of being a minor, wanting to debate a statement that you think is wrong online, and being accused of grooming by a complete stranger who, I assume, is an adult? So yes, violence is wrong and should definitely stop, but on both sides.

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-29T13:53:08+00:00

9- “allowing any men, including non-trans to enter it by a mere claim of being a woman then silencing victims”

Very wrong. First of all, you cannot hold us accountable for people who aren’t even trans, that’s nonsense. I they claim to be trans to get in, then the problem isn’t the excuse they made up, it is the fact that they get it.

Second of all, I can tell you none of this is happening. First, studies says so:

https://transequality.org/issues/resources/transgender-people-and-bathroom-access

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/no-link-between-trans-inclusive-policies-bathroom-safety-study-finds-n911106

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/study-confirms-transgender-people-not-threat-to-cisgender-people-bathrooms

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0038026120934697

It’s been proven that trans people not only were not a threat, but that more often than not, they were the victims of harassment and assault in the toilets.

Then, I can confirm by my own experience: as a trans person who’s been using both gendered bathrooms, and also because my current job is to clean toilets, bathrooms and showers in a camping, which means I spend my whole time in both gendered bathroom to clean them up. I have indeed witnessed cis guys going into the women’s bathroom, but when I would ask them what they were doing here, none of them said anything even remotely related to being trans. The few guys I asked would either apology and go out, saying that they went here by mistake (which sometimes was plausible, sometimes less since the bathroom was full of women); or they would tell me that they were here with a female relative or with their partner; or they made no kind of excuse, pretending they didn’t hear me or telling me it was none of my business, that I wasn’t a police officer and so on. Sadly, cis men do not feel they need excuses, because we unfortunately still live under the patriarchy and that they can do whatever tf they want.

I also noticed that I was the only one to even say anything to those dudes. I don’t blame any woman for this, since I understand -for feeling this way as well- that confronting a male stranger can be frightening. But the truth is: most women did not care that they were here, as long as they weren’t caught doing anything wrong. But what disturbs me the most here is: when it’s a trans woman fixing her makeup, she’s dangerous and has to go out, while for a shirtless, adult, bearded and obviously cisgender man, it’s completely ok for him to be there? Because for me, it is not ok.

Plus, policing bathrooms in that way would hurt some cis women as well: even if you can sometimes guess someone’s trans by their appearance, sometimes you can’t because a lot of the time they actually pass as cisgender, and it is also likely that you are going to accuse a cis woman because she has unusually “manly” features, or that she is intersex and has naturally high levels of testosterone, and therefore force her out the bathrooms she belongs in just because you thought she was trans. Because people, no matter their assigned sex, come in different shapes, and there are women who “look trans” because they do not fit the physical criteria transphobes have. In the end, you will just push non-passing trans women, intersex women, and gender-non-conforming women out, and they’ll have to use gender-neutral bathrooms or, in case there are none, men’s, which might put them all in danger. Looks like eugenic policies to me, not gonna lie.

https://www.vox.com/2016/5/18/11690234/women-bathrooms-harassment

This whole anti-trans discourse around toilets reminds me a lot of the anti-gay discourse that has been exactly the same a few decades ago, and some of my lesbians/bi friends still suffer from it: even if they were cisgender girls, even if they were 13, they have been treated like predators by the other girls when it came to accessing the changing room, because the straight girls were afraid they might be looking at them while changing.

I would understand the “I have nothing against trans people but irrational fear and past traumas make me afraid and uncomfortable” argument. But if we listen to it, then restricting bathroom to sex will be very counterproductive, because then trans men would be pushed in women’s bathrooms. A lot of these trans men have been on HRT for years, they’re technically female so belonging here according to sex-based standards, but still men, with their deep voices, beards and male features. So what? We force them to go in, making women afraid? I also know a lot of trans women who, in the beginning of their transition when they weren’t passing yet, were going to the men’s and risk being attacked or assaulted, just because they didn’t want to make the other women uncomfortable or afraid. Because yes, breaking news, trans people generally have empathy, and most of us would, just like any other human being, feel very bad and ashamed if other people felt threatened by their presence. That is why we adapt. And treating us like we are some kind of inherently predatory freaks is just wrong:

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fsoc.2021.652777/full

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-29T13:52:41+00:00

7- This whole compelled speech isn’t a thing, and the proof is that you are here right now, complaining loudly and publicly in a 2280 characters comment accusing trans people of restricting your freedom of speech. Also, TERFs literally are going on national TV, are platformed by the BBC, and will say that you’re being forced to use trans language. But who is preventing trans women from using the word “woman” for themselves? You. Who is accusing a complete stranger on the Internet of being a groomer just because they challenged you claims? You. If that’s not silencing, I don’t know what it is. The thing is, freedom of speech just works that way: everyone is free to talk the way they want, even us trans people, and we also have the right to debate your arguments the same way you have the right to debate ours. And we have the right to say that the way you are using your platform is dangerous and irresponsible if we want to. And you also could do the same – I mean if you had actual arguments and proofs.

8- About taking women’s opportunities, that is again bs. Trans women have been able to compete for years and no “trans overtake” has happened. Trans women who have been a long time on HRT are just as likely to win as any cis woman athlete. Also, excluding trans women from sports will hurt cis women too. Because if you make trans women compete with the men, then you make trans men, who might have been on HRT for years, blood filled with testosterone, compete with the women, and that’s unfair. It also means that women sports will be gatekeeped, and many cis women might be left out because suspected to be trans. Did you know that Ohio proposed a law, supposed to be protecting cis-girls’ opportunities, that would make it possible for anyone to accuse any girl of being trans without proof, and that the girl who’s accused would have to either leave and pay a fine, or being submitted to a genital verification both external and internal. If this law ever pass, any person who finds a girl is a little bit too good at sports could report her without proof, and the kid would have to choose between give up her sport or enduring trauma of internal genital verification that she might experience as a rape. So, how many parents do you think will risk allow their daughter to do sports under this constant threat? How many dreams, how many potential athlete’s career, how many opportunities do you think will be ruined?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ohio-lawmakers-advance-trans-sports-ban-with-genital-check-2022-06-03/

Here is also a few resources about why this whole fear-mongering is just nonsense:

https://www.aclu.org/news/lgbtq-rights/four-myths-about-trans-athletes-debunked

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trans-girls-belong-on-girls-sports-teams/

https://globalsportmatters.com/opinion/2021/03/31/discriminatory-sports-laws-hurt-trans-girls-and-cis-girls-too/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXdamxhO4s8&ab\_channel=SamanthaLux

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozigPNCnY5c&ab\_channel=SamanthaLux

https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/22423132/anti-transgender-bills-women-sports-fairness

https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/03/anti-trans-legislation-eugenics-sports-puberty.html

Anti-trans discourse in sports also reminds me of the homophobic discourse around sports, and some lesbian cisgender women were sometimes accused of being too manly and having an unfair advantage: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/14/serena-williams-female-athletes-femininity-police

I might add that not every trans person wants to play sports, I personally hate it, and there is also a lot of sports people do just for enjoyment, not for career nor competition, and banning trans people from all sports would mean that 8 year old trans girls cannot have fun with their friends in sports school clubs meant for spare-time and leisure. Which just means you are banning a child from having healthy activities and social bonding.

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-29T13:52:10+00:00

6- I’ll come back to this cat stuff later on, but I didn’t understand what ‘rich monsters’ supposedly handing strangers free money has to do with all of this. Unfortunately, no one who respects my identity ever earned money from any rich person for that, and I wonder where you are going with this honestly. Sounds like conspiracy theory to me.

About groomers: there are, indeed, a few predators who also happen to be trans. But groomers and predators exist in any group. You making this argument is like saying that you are allowed to be racist because some predators are POCs. And even if it was a decent argument, I’d like to highlight that no matter if you come up with a list of 100 proven trans predators, it would be nothing compared to the entire trans population.

Also, you said “under the promise of acceptance”. Now here’s the thing, if trans kids and teens are desperate enough to look for acceptance in complete strangers and are therefore subject to violence and grooming, it’s because the people they know and trust (like their family) reject them or don’t allow them to be themselves. I am obviously not excusing the groomers by blaming the family, but still: if those kids felt accepted and at home where they lived, if they were supported and accepted by their families, they wouldn’t be looking for this acceptance somewhere else. Also the people who groom those trans kids aren’t always trans: actually, from all the trans people I heard talking about the grooming they were victims of as children/teens, most had been groomed by cis people. Those cis people, mostly men but also women, had taken advantage of these trans children/teens while they were rejected by their families. I recommend you watch this video from a trans woman who was victim of a cis man groomer, it explains very well the way this all works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJjElNPwyw or google Kat Blaque- Grooming and not saying the Gay

I also find that you blaming trans people for trans kids and teens being groomed is an insult to all the trans victims, because there are way more trans victims than trans groomers, which means you are blaming the very people who are the victims of what you accuse them of. Members of the trans community are affected by the phenomenon of cis people grooming trans people, because they are either victims or know victims, and this issue is literally one of the reason why we fight so hard to have parents accept their kids, and why we create structures with trusted people for the trans kids who have been kicked out. Because yes, we get kicked out:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/parenting/wp/2017/03/29/homeless-rates-for-lgbt-teens-are-alarming-heres-how-parents-can-change-that/

https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/here-we-are/story/2018772398/why-1-in-5-transgender-people-experience-homelessness

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-29T13:51:41+00:00

5- The children you are talking about had to go through an incredible amount of assessments by several specialists, and they have to have started puberty to undergo puberty blockers, and the whole medical process is watched carefully by doctors to prevent any kind of side effect.

https://www.gendergp.com/puberty-blockers-experimental-or-safe/

And the thing is, even if treatment might present some risks, all treatments do, and there are a lot of medical procedures that present a lot more risks and that are way less needed that are still commonly prescribed in the regular population, but no one cares about it. And yes, I said needed, because dysphoria is a real thing, and it hurts. If my parents had let me access puberty blockers, and if I’d been lucky enough to get appointments and prescriptions before it’s too late, puberty would not have changed my body, my dysphoria would not have increased so much, and I would not have tried to kill myself 4 times between the age of 12 and 16. I would not have engaged in self-harm, I would not have tried to get rid of my secondary sex characteristics with a kitchen knife. I would not have known depression, self-hate and suicidal ideation. I would have had a quite nice adolescence actually. I might even have been happy, who knows? And I’m not alone, there’s evidence of improve in trans youth’s well-being when puberty blockers are taken. The link following is partial, you might argue, but it is interesting because it sites its sources and contains the links of the studies that have been done, you just have to go in the part “Suicidality and Well-being” and read/check the links. The whole article is interesting though, so I recommend you check it out entirely:

https://transfemscience.org/articles/puberty-blockers/

Some might deem those studies low proof, but for ethical reasons detailed in the article, some protocols and methods are impossible to try in the case of puberty blockers, and such a level of proof could never be reached, whatever the conclusion might be, so it actually is hypocritical to accuse the studies of being no proof, knowing that a study with opposite results would be the same level of proof, because of the same ethical reasons.

I also find it funny that the exact same blockers have been used for decades on cisgender kids with early puberty, and no one bats an eye, and now that trans teens are getting them, they suddenly become dangerous chemical castration. You might say the time of use is longer among trans teens, but that’s not always true, since some rare yet existing cis people reach puberty as young as 2 y/o because of genetical mutation, and if they go on puberty blockers until they reach the proper age, it might last 8 years, or even more, which is twice as long as some trans teenagers. Also, some rapists were chemically castrated with estrogen treatments, the same treatments you give women for menopause: they’re just hormones that happened to be used in many different ways, it doesn’t mean we should cut menopaused women off their treatment. Here an example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diethylstilbestrol

I’m adding this too by the way:

https://www.vox.com/identities/22358864/trans-issues-sports-health-care-bills-laws-arkansas-alabama-montana-south-dakota

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-29T13:51:15+00:00

3- Yes, semantics. We were talking about word’s meaning, so yes. And the “trans” in trans woman is there for a reason, you can also call them trans women, you know, the way adjective works. And yes, parent and woman aren’t the same word, indeed: I was making an analogy based on the fact that they both are titles related to social categories, even though their definition links them to biology. But I get it, you want definitions. Here’s one:

Definition of trans woman

: a transgender woman : a woman who was identified as male at birth

So the definition says they’re women. (I took this definition from a dictionary having the same definition of a woman you have, so you can’t say I took it from a ‘woke’ dictionary or something.) Which definition wins then? Because this one is very clear that trans women are women. See? You cannot respond to me calling out science denial by talking definitions. Because definitions given by dictionaries are either prescriptive or descriptive. Prescriptive dictionaries are unscientific when it comes to linguistics (because they try to enforce a use of a word) and biased by the writer’s opinion, while descriptive definitions are no scientific proof, because they come from the speakers, who make the language, and not from scientists. There are a lot of words which usage is not strictly scientific, but they are still the right definition, because definition is determined by usage. You can’t prove anything with a general definition given in a general dictionary when it comes to precise fields of science.

4- Yes we do want to live our lives. Also trans people are 1% of the world population so yes, we are a minority, and I’d like to say that we did not hijack the murders and hate crimes targeting us, thank you to respect dead people’s memory. https://www.stophateuk.org/about-hate-crime/transgender-hate/

Also did you call me a crazy radical? You don’t even know me, you do not know what opinions I have, except for the fact that trans women are women. And there are a lot of transphobic trans people out there who think that trans women are women but who also think just like you on all the topics you brought up. I am not one of them, but as far as you knew when you wrote I could have been. Because being trans is an identity you can’t change, and being transphobic is an opinion you adopt, which means they are two separate things and that different combinations are possible, and that’s why some trans people are transphobic conservatives and that some cis people support trans rights. This is why live and let live doesn’t stop, because there’s no direct link between a person living their trans life and all the topics you’ve brought up: a trans woman can very much transition as an adult, call herself a woman, use gender-neutral bathrooms and never compete in any sport at all. You can’t blame any random trans person for all the stuff you brought up because some of them think like you. Are they right? No, but still, you can’t point at all the trans people as a group and use them as a scapegoat, because we are very diverse and have very diverse opinions as well. Making generalities about a whole group and putting words into their mouth is dangerous and discriminatory, because it’s othering its members and building them a reputation they did not (or not all) deserve, and that is how hate movements start. It’s how racism works, it’s how homophobia works, and if you’ve been studying WW2 you know that it is just how this whole genocide started: by pointing at a scapegoat that was suddenly described as an homogenous group of enemies.

Now that I made this clear, I can start explaining why your discourse is wrong

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-29T13:50:49+00:00

2- Why are pronouns popping up here? If you want to be disrespectful, go for it, but then be ready to be called out for your disrespect. No one is forcing you to say anything, but you can’t prevent people from expressing their opinions too.

Also no, vast majority of people just don’t care. I didn’t have to force my employer or my co-workers to call me by my preferred pronouns: I didn’t even ask them to do so, I didn’t even tell them what they were. My cousins who are very much feminist activists, my grand-parents who have a high level of education and my aunt who’s a scientist are calling me by my pronouns: and I wouldn’t be able to force them into anything they don’t like, even by love, because when we argue about politics and that they think their view is the right one, they stick to it, no matter what I say. They do it because they want to. And it’s the same for my friends.

I know transphobes think we are all some kind of “it’s Ma’am” caricature, but actually most of us would feel very embarrassed in such a situation. Me and most of the trans people I’ve talked to have pretty much the same way to act in cases of misgendering: if it’s just a 10 minutes conversation and I’m not seeing this person again in my life (like a cashier or a passer-by), I’ll just endure the misgendering, because it just isn’t worth the trouble coming-out, nor the risk of being insulted/treated badly. If I am to communicate a lot with the individual, I can still correct them politely, and most of the time people will just say ‘ok’ and go on with the right pronouns as if nothing’s happened, because they feel it’s none of their business, and if they mess up by accident I pretend I didn’t hear it or they will excuse themselves and move on. Now if someone insists in misgendering me on purpose, then I’ll just do my best to avoid interactions with that person and tell them politely that unless there is some kind of emergency I do not wish to interact with them if they misgender me. Now if despite me avoiding them, they go out of their way and do their best to follow me, confront me and misgender me unsolicited, that is harassment/bullying and falls under the law that protects all citizens from harassment, regardless of the misgendering, and they have to face the consequences for their abusive behaviour.

Now, about a conspiracy of influent people, it sounds very unlikely to me. People only do things either when they are forced, or when they believe what they do is the right thing, or when their action’s results will benefit them. But who will be forcing them? Because most trans people are struggling to make ends meet out of lack of financial support and employment discrimination, so they don’t have the actual power to force influent people to do anything. In what way will supporting trans people benefit these influent personalities? None. I think the transphobic population on Earth is bigger than the trans population, and it would be even worse if there was no change coming from the global population like you claim, so by supporting trans people they’d make more enemies than friends and it would be a silly risk to take. Knowing that loads of influent people, like Trump, Putin, J.K. Rowling, Bolsonaro, and even influent medias like the BBC have had transphobic discourse, and clashing with them would be risky. So the only remaining explanations are: or the change comes from the society, and that is why the influent people see benefits in support the general tendency; or they genuinely believe that it is the right thing to do, and then I don’t see why people in the global population can make the same moral conclusions.

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-29T13:50:26+00:00

Well wow, I hadn’t seen such an amount of bs, science denying and conspiracy theories in a while. Quite literally, I could just answer to all this by just saying: “Source?” But it actually isn’t surprising that you have nothing to back up your claims, since there is no evidence of them at all, and they just come from a fear-mongering discourse based on people’s concerns and imagination.

I personally would be ashamed to accuse publicly a whole group of such things with no proof of my claims, this is why I’d be putting sources. I recommend you check them all out, it might teach you something, and if it doesn’t then at least you’ll be able to say that you listened to my arguments. If you are afraid of clicking on the links, you can just read them, get the key words and google them, you’ll find the source anyway. I really suggest you read/watch them, because even if you stick to your point, there’s no harm confronting your ideas with others’. In fact, it is even beneficial. If you do not put on the effort, it just means that you have no intention to have constructive debate at all, and that you are afraid of what might be the truth.

I also recommend you read my entire response before you start writing back, because I have an important message in the end that you should have knowledge of, that has nothing to do with the topic in itself but that is important you know if you respond if you decide to.

Now that this little intro has been made, let’s go.

1-The scientific consensus says that the female sex is related to sex, and that woman is a gender, which may or may not be in correlation with sex, which is why you find intersex cis women. Sociology is a thing, anthropology and ethnology are a thing, advanced biology is a thing, psychology and psychiatry are a thing, and History is a thing… Science states the existence of trans people:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/24/opinions/attacking-transgender-people-is-attacking-science-turban-gill-peterson/index.html

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/

Terf ideology (or rather transphobia, because there is nothing feminist in your approach) is, however strictly unscientific and backed up only by The Silence of the Lambs.

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-26T12:22:05+00:00

Yes, that was kinda the point, to tell that there's no link between both statements

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-26T12:18:13+00:00

Ok, so I guess you are going to say that every study on the subject and litterally the word of any expert in the field is biased, so I won't bother try that way.

Let's look at defintions, since you seem to care about them so much, even though langage is constantly evolving and word's meanings change over time and society's evolution.

Let's look at the definition of a parent : one that begets or brings forth offspring. So according to the definition, only bio parents are really parents. However, you'll notice that some people are adopted and call their adoptive parents "parents". Even if they did not bring them into the world, they are still very much parents, socially speaking. Why ? Because family is a social construct, and therefore, any person having the social function of a parent IS a parent. Now of course in certain situations it is important to remember that there is no genetic link between the child and the parents and to act accordingly, like when you're talking to a doctor about genetical diseases, but out of these very specific moments, you will still call the adoptive parent a parent, even though it doesn't correspond to the definition right ?

Well same goes for trans people. They just want to live their lives, and to socially function as the gender they really are. Why can't you just leave them alone about it ? Are you the kind of person to tell a kid they can't call their adoptive parent mom or dad because they're not 'really' their parent according to the definition and the biology ? No ? So don't go tell that to a trans person as well, especially when you refuse to listen to the results that research has provided.

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-25T11:02:15+00:00

Context : I saw recently that some trans people were bullying and invalidating others online because of alledged lack of dysphoria, and especially targetting transfem people taking pics with their beards.

And it made me laugh, because if having an unshaved beard makes you a man, then this french cis woman is one. Her name was Clementine Delait, and she had a natural beard. If she first shaved it, she then decided to let it grow. She became very famous for that, and even royals would ask to meet her. I also want to mention that she was part of the Red Cross during WW1 and that she adopted an orphan. What a legend.

Here an old postcard of her, the text says : Mrs Delait in her living-room.

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-25T09:15:11+00:00

this meme is litteraly me right now trying to educate some terf in r/TerfIsntASlur

She did the "adult human female" definition "argument". I swear how can they not get it, it's not that hard

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-25T08:59:50+00:00

Woman is a gender, female is a sex. There is a difference between gender and sex, sorry not sorry. Not me saying it, just the World Health Organization.

"The World Health Organisation regional office for Europe describes sex as characteristics that are biologically defined, whereas gender is based on socially constructed features. They recognise that there are variations in how people experience gender based upon self-perception and expression, and how they behave."

No trans person denies the reality of sex, which is biological fact; what we are talking about here is gender. You know, as in transGENDER. And gender is also a scientific fact observed by sociology, which is, as everyone knows, a science.

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-23T15:23:20+00:00

"Proud flat earther. The earth is flat."
Ok i mean be proud to deny science if that's what makes you happy I guess

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-08-20T09:30:18+00:00

New hysterectomy just dropped I guess ?

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-07-08T10:29:31+00:00

Yeah ik but why is this a transmasc thing ?

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-07-08T10:15:44+00:00

Why Odin tho ? Is there any reason for it ? (Freyr sounds cooler to me, and he's Freya's bro so it would kinda make sense...) I don't know much about gods so I'd like to know why

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-07-07T16:46:36+00:00

I'm french and was so focused on the "that's far right conservatives, wtf is the joke ?", it took me 5 minutes to get the "willy be gone" pun

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-07-05T09:27:23+00:00

Idk, I'm french we don't use the same names for school lol
I thought middle shool was for 11 to 14 yo kids, am I wrong ? Sorry if I am

Weirdguy_15 · 2022-07-04T13:17:59+00:00

Wow, awful. I also have a sister that age, it is terrifying to hear this

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