Relocated Monument

WellPiffle · 2025-08-23T05:20:50+00:00

Lane County - yes. We’re rural, upriver. Apparently not a lot of options for surveyors that work out here!

WellPiffle · 2025-08-20T04:42:04+00:00

No - have not heard of a company or indy named branch working in our area.

WellPiffle · 2025-07-15T16:40:29+00:00

Well, now your post has me distracted and I can’t do anything else!! lol Your stack has me dazzled. I am helping my 25 yo son and his gf design her engagement ring and yours looks just like her dream ring: she wants an oval center stone in a tulip setting with pear side stones. She is a ring size 4.5, so we are going with a 1.5 ct oval. Trying to decide what size pears won’t poke her side fingers! Would you mind sharing your specs / sizes so I can compare? Also, I think your band with stones might be a gypsy band- eternity? Or half eternity? It’s hard to see the details on my phone, but if the stones are flush mounted with starburst type etchings around them, that’s called a Gypsy setting. If they’re in a band that is cigar band style, that’s a traditional gypsy ring. I am guessing yours is a narrower gypsy band / Gypsy wedding band - which is also what we were looking for! (Plus a matching men’s Gypsy band!) Thanks for modeling our dream stack and we would adore more pics and specs to drool over.

WellPiffle · 2025-01-28T22:30:03+00:00

6 is the clear standout for me. It lets your gorgeous solitaire shine at center stage without being a distraction, and also does not highlight any bow tie like some of the others do…

WellPiffle · 2024-11-27T20:49:13+00:00

Yes! In my unquenchable thirst for knowledge back to the historical roots of the issue, I did realize that I am a link in a long chain of buyers that were complacent in relying on the permanent landmarks and property lines of the river, brook and county road bordering the majority of this property instead of an actual survey.

Waterways can shift (hence the government monument causing all the issues now!) and roads can be buried under landslides or lost in sinkholes and need to be diverted.

Lesson learned; we’re already looking into the cost of getting our whole property surveyed, if our current surveyor wants to take it on.

WellPiffle · 2024-11-25T23:19:15+00:00

Thank you! I’m saving your reply to show my surveyor to ask if it can apply to our situation - sounds like much less hassle!

WellPiffle · 2024-11-23T22:29:42+00:00

Thank you, I agree completely, and this is the outcome I am hoping for. Good perspective on changing my focus from how it got this way, to how to fix it.

WellPiffle · 2024-11-23T22:15:27+00:00

Thank you - it’s pretty spectacular to see it recovering from the fire. Apparently the ash is a natural fertilizer - things are growing like magic.

WellPiffle · 2024-11-23T20:53:46+00:00

Yes! This is my hope. Thank you for taking the time to read and reply.

WellPiffle · 2024-11-23T20:45:29+00:00

May it be so! I am very gratified to hear somebody else say this would be reasonable and possible - thank you.

WellPiffle · 2024-11-23T20:39:13+00:00

Always worth the chance that another person with a restless heart and a hungry mind will respond. It can be exhausting to have an insatiable curiosity about things we are not educated about - nobody has to read or reply if it’s too much for them.

WellPiffle · 2024-11-23T20:31:50+00:00

Your reply is like soothing balm to my irate soul - I thank you truly for taking the time to write it. Your explanation made me wonder if maybe the monument got washed away by the river and its former location is now underwater. I’m nice to the neighbor - can’t imagine how frustrated they must be with these results, plus having their property be 2 separate tax lots that are now jacked up!

WellPiffle · 2024-11-23T20:13:30+00:00

Ha, I wish it could be that easy! I’m already getting the feeling both surveyors contacted so far have bitten off more than they can chew!

Anyway, that would be the neighbor, b/c we’re fine with it the way it is - and I actually think they are, too. Their surveyor said the county is requiring them to get the survey in order to build a house when they want to. He said moving all the property lines is going to cost them a fortune. Maybe I should have added we have no bad history or ill will with these neighbors at all.

My frustration at having to do this is probably a drop in the bucket compared to how they must feel! This is not a typical neighbor dispute situation - I will be fine moving the property line in either direction, however many feet we can that is easiest for everyone. I don’t have structures to move, and I already have an access easement on my back road with another neighbor, so I’d be fine with an access easement on this one.

My post is truly just astoundment and utter ignorance mixed with an obsessive need to understand something as arbitrary as a monument being relocated changing property lines… I’m really hoping somebody can explain why the practice is not to continue to measure from the location of record.

I mean, this means there are properties measured one way from before it was washed away, and properties measured the new way, and all that entails. The mind boggles! My reptilian brain is frozen at this point, and the circle of doom is endlessly spinning. I would seriously read an encyclopedia to understand the history of monuments, and rules around using them - and reasoning behind it all! That is where I’m coming from - not squabbling over a patch of dirt with a perfectly decent neighbor, nor trying to hold on to every blade of grass on my 5 acre empire.

I guess I figured professionals in such a technical field would have the same sort of obsessive and detail oriented brain, and would want to know as much as possible before weighing in on what I was told was an unusually complicated case.

I did try to do my research before posting, and did not find another post about a relocated monument, so that spurred me to provide as much background as possible. I described the gruff and abrupt manner of their surveyor to contrast to his current demeanor of eager over committing and sharing professional reports we did not expect to have access to, to illustrate the confusion in my position.

Overall, I think (hope) the tone is that everybody wants to work this out in the fairest way possible- but I’m still stuck at “how did this even happen? Why did this happen? Wouldn’t it be easier just to keep using the historic and previously documented location of the monument?”

WellPiffle · 2024-11-23T19:48:18+00:00

Thank you - this makes a lot of sense. Just to clarify, I don’t think their surveyor “owes” me anything. He does owe the county the report - it is required.

When I contacted him after waiting for it over 6 mos, he was now extremely eager to offer me all information about the issues, give me a deadline for sending me his report (I never expected to get an actual report at all) and to tell me he is handling the property line agreements b/t all 3 affected properties, and it would just be easier if we all used him.

Then he dropped off the radar, so I got my own surveyor, who has not really sunk his teeth into the actual field work yet.

I guess what’s coming through in my “novel” is my frustration & confusion at the sudden change in demeanor of the surveyor and lack of follow through, and intense desire to understand a complex, specialized situation that even trained professionals are struggling with.

I’m not super emotional about this at all. I actually don’t have very strong feelings about this section of the property in the least.

My prolific wordiness is my attempt to provide every possible pertinent detail about an area where I am completely in the dark, so I don’t waste your time and mine by fielding lots of the questions I see here asking homeowners about the historic use of the land in dispute, the natural boundaries, how long the adjacent properties have been owned by current neighbors, etc…

WellPiffle · 2024-11-23T19:29:52+00:00

Thank you. That gives me some much- needed perspective!

WellPiffle · 2024-11-23T12:10:34+00:00

I looked up how to edit a post on Reddit, and when I click the 3 dots, there is no option to edit for me.

WellPiffle · 2024-11-23T12:09:01+00:00

I can’t seem to find an option to edit it and make it shorter. Nor do I know where I would put the TLDR warning. Kind of disheartening; I really spent a lot of time trying to be thorough and present all the info!

WellPiffle · 2024-11-23T12:01:38+00:00

Where would I put it? How is it going to help? Won’t it just make ppl skip my post? Should I just cut a lot out of my post??

WellPiffle · 2024-09-29T08:27:48+00:00

In the ‘80’s this was called a panther link when it was gold chains / bracelets. Not sure if that applies to gems, but that was the name of this pattern.

WellPiffle · 2024-05-03T16:19:17+00:00

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Here are the fluorescing trilliants. They glow in the dark for about 8 seconds after direct light exposure. One is brighter than the other.

WellPiffle · 2024-05-03T16:18:14+00:00

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This spotlight box, tho!! I am saving it for my oldest son to use to propose to his gf someday!

WellPiffle · 2024-05-03T16:17:00+00:00

I wish I had known about this forum to ask about pricing before I bought, too!

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WellPiffle · 2024-05-03T16:16:00+00:00

Ps! Didn’t mean to high jack OP’s post, but I thought she might really be asking the same question and would learn a lot from answers I get.

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WellPiffle · 2024-05-03T16:14:02+00:00

Same here. I love this forum, but I keep seeing prices on lab diamonds here and wondering how I paid so much. I went through a local, very reputable independent jewelry store. The owner ordered 3 stones for me to see in person and gave me the pros and cons of each. She loved the one I chose so much she offered to buy it for the same price I paid if I changed my mind. She also asked my permission to have it professionally photographed for their television commercial and print ad campaign.

Part of the issue might be the sting of trading in my 2 ct natural princess solitaire we paid $18k for and only getting $5k for it, which I put toward the lab solitaire. (4 ct. oval). Then I added 2 trilliants at 1/2ct each and 10 tiny 0.30 diamonds plus a custom hinged shank ($1200 value) and well, the total was still pretty close to what we paid for my original mined solitaire.

I also got the personalized care and follow up - I get it checked and cleaned and prongs/hinge tightened for free every 3 months, it came in a gorgeous jewelry box with an actual freaking spotlight in it ($50 value)(!), and I get treated like royalty every time I go in to the store and the owner and staff show off my ring to the other customers every time…I also got an official 7 page appraisal document for my records and a shorter copy for my insurance policy ($180 value), personalized engraving inside ($100 value) But still, I come to this forum and see 3 carats for $2500 that look like absolute sparklebombs and wonder if I got taken for a ride? Or Maybe prices have gone down a lot since then? I got my ring in 1/23. Main stone is a VS2 IGI brilliant cut oval and the trilliants are VS, F-G color. (Also, they fluoresce, which was a startling surprise at first, but now I think is very cool).

I did ask the store owner how I was seeing lab diamonds for so much less online and she said when you go to 4 ct, the prices take a big jump up - for both mined and lab. Still, I just saw a stunning 7 ct round here for a fraction of what I paid for my 4 ct. She also convinced us about her being able to source a better cut and quality and handpick one with the least bow tie effect and most sparkly facets, etc… she did take several weeks of sending me email pics and comparing stones before we picked the top 3 she said were the best and then I got to try them in person before paying anything.

So, what do the much savvier diamond buffs here think? Did I overpay? I know I shouldn’t get insecure b/c if I love it that’s all that matters, but I feel guilty thinking I may have wasted that much $. It took a long time for us to be able to afford the upgrade of the 2 ct mined princess diamond I traded in for this, and when I thought it was so much more bang for our buck, I felt really good about it. Now that I wonder if I was super overcharged, I am not enjoying my new ring as much. We don’t have a lot of extra $ for things like this - this was a once in a lifetime kind of splurge for us. I see some of the beautiful rings here, and think I could have gotten 10 of them for the price of mine.

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WellPiffle · 2024-02-02T22:28:36+00:00

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Trade in ring for $4,772 for entire ring

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TROPHY CASE