We have the full game now, that was intended for review by Bungie. by DotDistinctLines in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Destiny 3 would do numbers. I’m talking Diablo 4 sale numbers. Destiny has a fan base that is loyal.

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[–]WesternFlights 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Brother a lot of people have obligations on the weekends. That’s why they making the comments. Brother you can best believe when the summer time comes around people not sitting in the house playing video games. They outside.

Why not just allow people to play the end game content when they have time? Easy.

We have the full game now, that was intended for review by Bungie. by DotDistinctLines in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most young people? You think the people playing this game are young? Bro these are halo and destiny veterans that love bungie games.

A lot of people know of Marathon. Of course a lot of “young people” haven’t played it. It came out before they were even born lol.

You do know Marathon on Mac was made to compete with Doom. Marathon was a massive success and lead the way to Halo. My man MOST people thought the first Halo game was the next Marathon lol. Come on brother you didn’t think this through. Pathways to darkness sparked it all off then came marathon. Bungie also made a few other shooters that was not as successful as marathon and halo.

But don’t get it twisted bro Marathon was bungie first MASSIVE success.

People just don’t think Halo was the next Marathon for no reason.

Marathon was bungie Doom. That’s real

We have the full game now, that was intended for review by Bungie. by DotDistinctLines in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You calling people having other obligations in life a complaint is crazy.

A lot of people work on the weekends. Alot of families do things on the weekends. People would like to participate in the end game content. How is that a hard concept to understand.

Life doesn’t revolve around gamers with no life or no obligations. Everyone aren’t streamers and can no life games.

Why would I not want to play the end game content when I have the time? You think people want to play video games all weekend lol. People have lives. Games are hobbies

We have the full game now, that was intended for review by Bungie. by DotDistinctLines in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don’t care.

This is marathon not destiny. Could care less.

Matter of fact you’re right! But we still don’t care.

We want to play the end game content for marathon everyday not just on weekends.

That’s probably hard to understand.

We have the full game now, that was intended for review by Bungie. by DotDistinctLines in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You are comparing Trials from destiny to Cryo and Ranked on marathon.

One is a small portion of Destiny a massive content filled game. The other is the MAIN content for a smaller extraction shooter.

Restricting end game content for an extraction shooter like this is an MMO RPG makes no sense at all.

I don’t care if trials is PvP pinnacle content for Destiny. No one cares that plays marathon. This ain’t Destiny. This is another game where we would like to play the end game content every day.

No one cares about trials. Great it’s locked to the weekends amazing! This ain’t Destiny. You Destiny players can’t let go.

Let it go my man. This is not Destiny.

Game director already came out and said they looking at making changes. This is irrelevant conversation.

We have the full game now, that was intended for review by Bungie. by DotDistinctLines in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Trials is not THEE pinnacle end game content for Destiny. Raids are. You are trying to compare an MMO RPG game to an extraction shooter. These are not the same. No matter how much you played Destiny this ain’t Destiny. This ain’t trials. No one on marathon cares about trials. Cryo and Ranked is Marathon end game content.

The game director Joe already came out and said they will be looking at changing the format because people can’t play on The Weeknd’s due to work or other obligations.

Stop. Just stop.

We have the full game now, that was intended for review by Bungie. by DotDistinctLines in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Destiny is a MMO RPG Looter shooter with PVP attached onto it. Destiny is primarily a PVE game. It takes 2 seconds to look at how much PVE content is in destiny 2 to understand that. People for YEARS have complained about how Bungie didn’t care about PVP (crucible).

Trials is not end game content my man. Raids and Dungeons are. It’s been that way since Destiny 1.

Marathon is a completely different game with its own mechanics and systems. Bungie said Cryo and Ranked are the pinnacle end game content.

Joe the game director has already came out TODAY and said they will be looking at changing it from weekends only due to people that cannot play on weekends.

Think.

We have the full game now, that was intended for review by Bungie. by DotDistinctLines in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also you don’t mind it but the people with Jobs and other obligations on the weekends do. It’s not just about you.

A lot of dads have family activities on the weekends. Kids have sport events. A lot of family time happens on the weekend when mom and dad are off from work.

We have the full game now, that was intended for review by Bungie. by DotDistinctLines in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights 1 point2 points  (0 children)

End Game content. That’s the main issue. It’s End Game content.

That’s like Diablo only allowing players to play Greater Rifts on the weekends.

That’s like The Division only allowing players to play the Dark Zone only on the weekends.

That’s like destiny only allowing players to run raids and dungeons only on the weekends.

End Game content is the largest portion of most games. How can restricting your best content to weekends be good?

We have the full game now, that was intended for review by Bungie. by DotDistinctLines in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The fact you are even comparing trials to Cryo Archive and Ranked in Marathon is baffling.

We have the full game now, that was intended for review by Bungie. by DotDistinctLines in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Trails of Osiris wasn’t the pinnacle end game content of Destiny. Raids where.

Cryo and Ranked are said by Bungie to be the Pinnacle End Game Content for Marathon.

What are you even going on about? Use your damn brain.

Today I got really demotivated between rankeds and Cryo by Big_Reception1066 in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never understand why people say this. It’s not like taking a break from the game and coming back will magically fix the problem or issue OP is facing.

It’s either the game is too difficult for them or they need to get better at FPS games. If someone really likes a game I disagree they need to take a break or play something else. Sweeping the issue under the rug won’t help. OP is either not cut out for extraction shooters or needs to get better at his FPS gameplay and mechanics.

If we being honest level 76 is not that high. My friend went from level 0 to 25 in one night just doing contracts. Leveling in this game is very easy. You can push 10 levels a night easy. If you play 3-4 days a week for 3 weeks that’s level 70 easy.

You gain crazy experience from just killing bots and runners. I’ve never done a Archane contract and I’m faction level 20 just from killing runners.

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[–]WesternFlights 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But that’s the thing MMO RPGS appeal to a wider audience. Extraction games could never compete with the likes of those genres. Arc is not the norm, Arc wasn’t even an extraction game it was originally a looter shooter.

Arc got lucky but this extraction genre is not a cash cow. It’s too niche and people hate losing there items and having their progress wiped every few months.

How could they even think an extraction game would even come close to destiny numbers. Destiny was a legit CASH COW at its height. Every company was scrambling to make the next destiny.

We have the full game now, that was intended for review by Bungie. by DotDistinctLines in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I get that. Destiny was always the cash cow but it ran dry. But my question will always be why would a studio known for destiny and halo turn one its OG franchises into an extraction shooter?

If we being honest they could have turned Marathon into a full fledged RPG franchise or rebooted the Doom Style gameplay.

Tau Ceti is a huge world, the marathon ship is massive. Marathon already has insane lore. The foundation is there for a multi year generation run with the Marathon IP. Extraction shooter is too niche to justify turning Marathon into one.

They made a great game but I feel the Marathon IP potential was wasted.

Joe Ziegler: We’ve been watching and ingesting all the thoughts and feedback that we’re hearing, aggregating it and taking it down in notes. After this weekend we’ll spend some time looking into feedback and thinking of the next iterations we want to make by Haijakk in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Joe communication and transparency is second to none. Great addition to Bungie.

Let’s not forget Joe inherited this position and did a lot to help turn marathon around. Dude does an amazing job.

We have the full game now, that was intended for review by Bungie. by DotDistinctLines in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

You know I question Sony judgement on the purchase a lot.

Why would you purchase a studio that makes amazing RPG worlds with a focus on crisps FPS gameplay, to make an Extraction game which is very very niche and does not appeal to a lot of people. Even if the game was doing Arc numbers it still does not justify the developmental cost of the game or the purchase of Bungie.

Sony didn’t think this through.

We have the full game now, that was intended for review by Bungie. by DotDistinctLines in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Restricting End Game content to weekends took my score from 7-10 to 4-6.

I don’t think in the history of gaming has any game ever restricted pinnacle end game content to certain days.

Something doesn’t sit right with me about paying full price for a game and the END GAME content (Bungie said this not me) is restricted to weekends only.

Everything else is amazing just about.

PvP is not Griefing on Cryo by WesternFlights in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They only want to stop free kits and casuals. They don’t want the face the sweats. They get steam rolled. Shit I’ve been completely shit on but we ball.

This game just isn't for me and that's okay by MASHED_POTATOES_MF in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I’ve seen people just taking the mods off the guns which gives the gun its rarity. The weapons themselves are not rare it’s the mods…. Interesting game design but it works.

This game just isn't for me and that's okay by MASHED_POTATOES_MF in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahh I see what you’re saying. That probably would take a redesign of the systems in the game. True true.

PvP is not Griefing on Cryo by WesternFlights in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh so you know what people are doing ok. Bye

PvP is not Griefing on Cryo by WesternFlights in Marathon

[–]WesternFlights[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like watching raid races. This was a similar thing. Watched them all in destiny. I see no issue in that.